Cloud of Thunder
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Oh, I absolutely get your reasoning; I'm just not sure if it is Fe or highly developed Te. If he were younger I would think it was Fe without a doubt, but more healthy and mature INTJs can learn to be rather like that too.His demeanor in interviews during this award season was very Fe-like: gracious, classy, and diplomatic. I'm thinking especially of his acceptance speech at the SAG Awards where he gave a shout out to Joaquin Phoenix, who wasn't nominated and was absent (another method actor; probably INFP).
Oh yeah. This vibe is partly why I think he's very developed in his type. There's more breadth in his nature rather than a sort of extreme 'specialisation' that you see in undeveloped people. I'm guessing you read the Dario Nardi Reddit thread.I can't tell if he's INFJ or ISTP. Same functions, same introverted tendencies, but he comes off pretty down to earth. Not Ni leading. When he was younger, he seemed to fall into the worst parts of Se. Apparently stole a lot and got busted for petty stuff. "I was a savage for so many years of my life. There was some seed of determination in me that I was not conscious of. I was mostly consciously getting into trouble and drunk." Consciously getting into trouble, but unconsciously determined for "something". That's sounds like Se over Ni to me.
And apparently, he enjoys woodworking and cobbling (making shoes) over acting.
I would be surprised if many S actors were crazy about Method acting - especially SPs. The Method is so indirect and roundabout; I imagine a SP wouldn't need to condition themselves to achieve a mindset, create a unfamiliar physical state or express something. Method acting (or variations of this approach) seems like something an actor does when they can't "just do it" in the moment. That sounds like a N issue to me - in particular a NJ trying to mimic Se through Ni.
I do realise I generalising a bit here.
Oh, good examples. They were methody SPs with a strangely NJ vibe about them. Hmm, something to ponder...Well, FWIW, I think some of the biggest method actors were SP as well (Brando, Dean, Mickey Rourke, etc. Many who are confusing on the NJ/SP thing in their own right).
That's a shame. Do you still do some - just for fun?Personally, I suck at acting, but I tried getting into it when I was younger. That doesn't mean much, but it was the door that opened the prospect and interest, at least. If that makes sense? Some actors have a more "thespian" motivation to get into it, but it was the understated psychological study that appealed to me.
I had to do some acting exercises for a film course I did and found it utterly mortifying. You've got to be gutsy to do it; shameless, even. I admire people that have the strength to get up in front of people and do that.
INFP. It's just a game to him.
He lacks the typical "worthiness" of the avg INFJ.
What about that interview did not signify indifference/coldness to you?
Seriously? Were we watching the same interview?Oh, it didn't.. He seemed to like clarifying and didn't repel anything, and spoke at the same level with the others.
He does not take himself too seriously. He does not buy into his own mythology. He does not believe himself/what he is doing, to be earth-shatteringly important. At the same time, he takes his "craft" very seriously. I could see ISTP before INFJ. I wouldn't rule out INTP.We can agree he's not the "worthiness" type, whatever that is.
Sensitivity to (and delight in) absurdity is a hallmark of Ne. All NP humour relies on this characteristic. Even his Oscar speech was playfully absurd. He finds the whole thing rather ridiculous. That both rescues him (from the genuine absurdity of people who believe their own hype) and makes him great at what he does.Day-Lewis can relate to that: the absurdity of being him. "Absolutely," he says. "When people ask me about acting, I've often wondered whether the reason I work the way I do is an instinctual response to my sense of absurdity. And in order to eclipse that, I have to immerse myself more than most people. And of course that only risks making me look all the more daft." He throws up his hands. "People always ask me: 'Isn't it strange that you have to do this or that to prepare for the work?' But really: what could be stranger than the work itself?"
Sensitivity to (and delight in) absurdity is a hallmark of Ne. All NP humour relies on this characteristic. Even his Oscar speech was playfully absurd. He finds the whole thing rather ridiculous.
Seriously? Were we watching the same interview?
He does not take himself too seriously. He does not buy into his own mythology. He does not believe himself/what he is doing, to be earth-shatteringly important. At the same time, he takes his "craft" very seriously. I could see ISTP before INFJ. I wouldn't rule out INTP.
Sensitivity to (and delight in) absurdity is a hallmark of Ne. All NP humour relies on this characteristic. Even his Oscar speech was playfully absurd. He finds the whole thing rather ridiculous. That both rescues him (from the genuine absurdity of people who believe their own hype) and makes him great at what he does.
I don't think it's the exclusive domain of anyone. He could be INFJ, I don't know. He didn't strike me as one, tis all.I'm bringing up an old thread, but I had to ask, why do you think an appreciation for the absurd is of the exclusive domain of Ne? I could easily see an infj being able to spot and enjoy incongruent features in their environment.
"Worthiness: noun 2. the quality of having good intentions but lacking in humour or interest ⇒ The characters' worthiness can become tedious."Anyway, your description of Infjs being "worthy" is interesting. Are you saying Infjs give off an air of weightiness, because they take the matters close to their heart very seriously, as if they and their ideas were one and the same entity?