Yep.Oh is that what "good" INTPs do?
I don't see how playing for the thrill would make one an ISTP to begin with.
Yep.
Heh, but yeah, I think beating people is rarely a good incentive, on the long term, for an INTP.
One of the reasons why Einstein managed to be a sucessful INTP was because he chose a very wide subject (physics).
He would study the concepts of light, mass, time, space, among many other things. It's hard to get bored when there are so many mysteries to be solved.
INTJ for sure.
Well, that's the way mbti usually works. Descriptions tend to be either generalizing or intangible.I don't get it.. I think what your saying is a bit over generalized.
Interesting, albeit impertinent.By the way it is reported that Einstein did in fact enjoy playing chess and found it to be quite interesting. The chess rating system was developed 5 years after Einstein died, so weather or not he was any good remains to be known..
The only things Bobby Fischer cared about was chess, and later when he lost his mind, various conspiracy theories. Sounds like INTP to me more than anything. The reason I say INTP instead of INTJ is because INTJs are more interested in application of information - INTPs are more interested in sheer mastery of it. As far as I know, he never displayed any applicational skills outside of the game, neither did he seem interested in it.
Both ISTPs I have known (with a very strong likelihood of being ISTP) pay chess at an expert level. Being sensitive to conditions is more INTJ-ish (Se is inferior), but the ISTPs are very sensitive to environmental conditions as well.
Well I have played chess since i was a young kid and one thing I can tell you from experience is that even when I played at around 1700, it was difficult to remember anything past 10 moves from opening. With every move that is made in chess thousands upon thousands of differnt variables are created. To me chess is way more than memory. I personally think it is much more about improvising and planning ahead. In order to become really good you have to have a mind for the abstract and I think any decent chess player would agree. Don't get me wrong, i think that memory does play a valuable role in chess, I just disagree that it is the most important element.
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I thought INTJ too. Ni for envisioning many moves ahead, and walking away from games because the audience or lighting wasn't right for him, makes me think tert-Fi. INTJs can also be very paranoid as he was later in life, but that's most likely down to Schizophrenia. The only problem i have is that he did memorise a lot of reading material for moves when he was young, which seems more like Si. But I have no reason to believe why an INTJ couldn't do the same, especially if they enjoy the activity.
I find your explanation wholly unsatisfactory.
[Virtually all chess masters, let alone grandmasters see many moves ahead, yet they are not all Ni dominant. For example, Kasparov's rating is 2800 and most prominent chess historians agree that his skill surpassed that of Fischer, yet it is apparent that he is not an INTJ. Similarly, all grandmasters devoted over 10,000 hours to chess study and when they were starting out, they had to memorize a lot of moves and variations. You can't be a good chess strategist without memorizing a lot of theory, there is just way too much in that game for you to try to figure out on your own. It is a well documented fact that even in grandmaster tournaments, those who know the most about chess and spend the most time studying win. Memorization of variations and various possible moves is an essential element of preparation for tournaments, surely you need a wealth of other skills to be a top-notch player, but you just can't do without memorization.
Swear to God I had a feeling you were an 6w5 by this.
What do you believe his type is
Are you implying .............. what exactly are you implying by the memorizing point? s
Is it that by memorizing alone they have become masters of seeing moves ahead - which I agree on / mental reflex one could say - which implies that you are not believing that one has to be an INTJ to see moves ahead - to which I agree.
Seems like you are also disagreeing with Infinite Bubble's doubts of him being an INTP by the memorizing point - which would imply that Infinite Bubble's assumption of him being an INTJ might be correct.