Misty_Mountain_Rose
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This thread needs a poll.
I believe that your response has been the most cool, collected, and unbiased. But alas, that doesn't mean a thing bc you stand on middle ground (ENTX).
Agreed. However, I was referring to emotional reactivity. A person's emotional reactivity often indicates their ability to make rational decisions under stress. Yes, some personalities are more rational in general than others.A fact is a fact is a fact, my friend. If an argument is correct, supported and logically sound it's irrelevant who penned it.
That said, the function preference business is something I've been puzzling over. I'd love to have someone to talk it over with if you're interested.
Hmmm...you sound so Idealistic
Agreed. However, I was referring to emotional reactivity. A person's emotional reactivity often indicates their ability to make rational decisions under stress. Yes, some personalities are more rational in general than others.
Labile mood, for example, is a symptom of poor mental health, but an ENFP's healthy personality is much more labile than most personalities. Anyone might get slightly defensive by a statement like "Better critic:" which is pointed at a group they perceive themselves to be a part of, depending on if they value "critic" positively or negatively.
I will message you. That would be fun.
You lost me. So is what you're saying that my arguments invalid because I deliberately defined criticism in an emotionally neutral way?
You didn't do ANYTHING wrong. I thought that your comment:This is only an issue if the point wasn't the question itself. Say for example, if the purpose of the thread was a kind of Rorschach's test for "emotional reactivity" or associations in your respondents based on their self-identification, then what I did would be wrong.
meant that I must have miscommunicated my prior point. I thought I must have offended you a wee bit by complimenting you- I meant to compliment you in saying that your comment was cool an unbiased. I tried my best to not be overly mushy or gooey sweet purposefully in my flattery - instead I meant to be subtle- bc you may feel disrespected if I had.If an argument is correct, supported and logically sound it's irrelevant who penned it.
I don't have less of an opinion of you, I promise. I like you.Or it's that because I have no invested interest in the answer, I can't have an emotional stake in my response, so there's something less "authentic" in what I said than if I actually was defending something I believed in.
Quite the contrary. I treasure what few people are willing to engage in clinical discussions about people with me-Or it's that NFs get indignant when others get too clinical about people.
Me too.Yay! Looking forward to it.
Quite the contrary. I treasure what few people are willing to engage in clinical discussions about people with me-
No offense, but which statement did you make that I might find too clinical?
What type [in a vacuum] makes the most logical, unbiased, painfully true critique? I am looking for a type that is most naturally capable (and does so actively on the most regular basis) of making a summation not crafted to drive the nail in deeper, sway to their personal point of view, or even flatter/attempt to avoid offending.
Assumptions:
Most likely this type is a rational.
Most likely the type is Introverted for pure internal analysis, also most naturally suited for writing as opposed to speaking/interacting/debating in groups.
I am hung up on the J/P:
Cons-
J would be the most decisive, more likely to have formed opinions on issues already
P's as in INTP's have extraverted feeling, thus more likely to be biased in attempting at times to not hurt feelings
Pros-
J more likely comfortable with drawing an end conclusion
P more likely to weigh both sides of an argument
I found from this thread []INTP - The Critic? [Archive] - Typology Central that INTP is often named the critic. I would love to see a more in depth discussion here. If the INTP is the most natural at being a critic, does that really mean they are naturally unbiased? Or are they most critical? If you are an INTP or an INTJ, what is your position?
Of course feel free to argue the first assumptions.
However, please address INTP/INTJ.
Good lord. I think that their either needs to be a field manual or summit or something for NFs and NTs. I dunno if the S's have it this bad, but I feel as though our two types are just prone to miscommunication.
...but I find them to be a bit dismissive and also too clinical in their writing style. Both of them, though, have such a boring, dense writing style which is better suited for tech spec manuals that no one will ever take out of the plastic.
not a big difference between intj and intp, unless they have strong preferences. I'm more of an INTX myself. Interesting topic though.
It is a question of judgement or perception. And also if impartiality is a good thing, because the impartial never truly connect with what they analyse.
INTJs are kinda cranky so they may add some stuff in there that isn't really bad. INTPs will emit lots of data and you can decide if it is good or bad.
Can you explain further? I don't understand what you wrote.
TiNeSiFe vs NiTeFiSe is not a big difference? do you not believe in function theory? even if you don't the J vs P seems huge in this comparison...
(INTJs use Te and Fi, which are 2 functions that I really don't like, so maybe I spot it right away??)