Crescent Fresh
Diving into Ni-space
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INFJ!
May I ask why?
INFJ!
My answer depends on what your question is. Assuming the underdetermination is part of the game, I am going to go with 'Which of these types do you like best?', thereby appearing to be a nice rather than a nasty person, who would probably answer to something like 'Which of these types is most likely to lose in a fight against a windmill?'.INFP, INFJ, ENFJ or ENFP?
My answer depends on what your question is. Assuming the underdetermination is part of the game, I am going to go with 'Which of these types do you like best?', thereby appearing to be a nice rather than a nasty person, who would probably answer to something like 'Which of these types is most likely to lose in a fight against a windmill?'.
I confess that I have taken an irrational liking to INFJs. But since I am asked to answer which type I like best, as opposed to what type is best, I am not bound to objective criteria or even coherence. Thus: INFJ > ENFP > INFP > ENFJ.
We amuse in different ways: ENTPs are, all and sundry, clowns; INTJs are puppeteers.Then what are the difference between INTJ and ENTP?
It is unfortunate for her and it probably upsets her that she cannot do anything about it, but the reason why she can easily talk about it with you is that she does not consider it intimate or even really personal information. These are simple facts about her current situation. It is also the answer to your question - and, which I think is typical, not a description of her feelings regarding the situation (how she is doing) but just the situation itself (how the world around her is doing).Example of the sort of situation I'm thinking of: I contacted her for the first time in several months yesterday, and when I asked her how she was doing, literally the first thing she mentioned was the fact that she might not get enough financial aid to return to college next year. I asked her if her parents could help, and she told me that her mom had given up on her business (because it had stopped earning money), and her dad was in the middle of a court battle regarding a job he'd been fired from, so he had been literally banned from seeking employment for over a year. My INTJ friend didn't say any of this in a very upset way, which made me a little uncomfortable; I would know how to react if she was upset, but I didn't even know if she was! She would have to be, right? But I did my best to respond accordingly, and I think she was happy with how I reacted to the news.
We talked about compliments on Vent last Friday. Apparently some like receiving compliments, others not so much.The next day, she texted me to say that it was confirmed that she wouldn't get enough financial aid. I sent her a Skype message about how those jerks didn't deserve her anyway, and she could do fine without college (since she's already an incredibly talented artist). She didn't even respond to that comment
I once rode home on my bike when it began raining heavily. Shortly after it had started I was soaked. So I dismounted and walked home - embracing the absurdity. That may be one part of the explanation for her reaction. The other, I guess, is that by telling you about it, she is in fact coping with it such that by sharing the information, the truth of it becomes real. If she tells you, it is on the table and no longer just in her head.[...] and instead said "Have you heard the news??" I immediately thought it was some positive development regarding the financial aid situation. But it turns out that she had totaled her car, the same day that she had gotten that terrible news! She sent me a photo of it, too. And again, the whole time, she was perfectly nonchalant and matter-of-fact. It was almost like she was enjoying telling me about it. She told me later in that same conversation that she was determined to apply again after a semester back at home (in the hopes that the school would reconsider her financial situation), and that she "wouldn't give up that easily". So that might explain her non-upset mood? But I don't understand, still.
Since the news are not about any failure of hers but rather about the hardships she has to endure (and will eventually overcome), it is not difficult for her to talk about them. Perhaps she would like a compliment on how well she is holding up.The reason why I'm so confused is that my reactions to bad news are so different from that. If I get terrible news about something, I will tell absolutely no one. I will withdraw and deal with things on my own, maybe only telling my one or two closest friends (and even then, I'll tell them several days after the fact, instead of right away). Often I'll instinctively (and without realizing it) stop contacting the outside world -- no Facebook status updates, no texts to friends and family with cool facts or fun news -- and the only way people get the information out of me is by asking me what's wrong. And if the news is really bad, I might refuse to give people the news over the phone or in person, because I don't want to cry in front of them.
Come on, she's a woman.She's ESTJ. I'm guessing she's not overly concerned with the emotions of it.
She's ESTJ. I'm guessing she's not overly concerned with the emotions of it.
I'm wondering if any INTJs can offer some perspective on the major similarities and differences they notice between themselves and their 1-letter-difference brethren: ENTJs, ISTJs, INFJs, INTPs. What do you respect about these types? What do you think they lack? Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...
P.S. - I'd appreciate a thoughtful and holistic approach; none of that "Well ENTJs are more extraverted" bologna.
When presented with the option, would an INTJ prefer a gift that's...
1). Useful/Practical - (IE: The missing ____ in their collection, tools, hardware, books, etc.)
2). Sentimental/Thoughtful - (IE: Something that reminds them of an inside joke between the two of you, tickets to their favourite _____, etc.)
3). Something totally random
4). Nothing at all
Dealing with the entirety of a person, rather than focusing so much on individual aspects; think of it as a caution that I don't want a list of trait differences so much as I want a unified analysis. How do the individual differences between the INTJ and XXXX work together to create two very different sorts of people?
Might I recommend asking us what we want rather than giving us a sentimental/thoughtful gift which has value to you or a useful/practical gift that we won't appreciate?
This isn't 'demand an INTJ essay' it is 'ask an INTJ'. I don't do Ne answers.
Lol and this is why I ask a forum worth of similar-minded folks
Question though: If someone asks you/gets you something that you tell them to, doesn't that ruin the surprise and make it less special? Or maybe you guys aren't all that into surprises I have no idea.