Speed Gavroche
Whisky Old & Women Young
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- Oct 20, 2008
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- 6w7
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- sx/sp
No Tritype is bullshit.And Alexander had nothing 3.
This is total bullshit.
Alexander was an ESTP 7w8.
An ENTP 8 is a guy like Slavoj Zizek or something.
He wasn't a 7 and he wasn't a ESTP.
If he was a 7 he would be concerned about getting drunk and having fun than inheriting his father's legacy and building an empire.
And if he was an ESTP he would at times exhibit ESTJ characteristics.
Your Slavoj Zizek is a shitty example. I don't even know who that guy is.
Anyway I know much more about Mao than about Alexander. Most of what I do and who I am today is by following his footsteps.
ESTPs are concerned about doing great things and having fun and being drunk. And as an ESTP, he did both.
Also, he was a Social 7, prone to Sacrifice of his indulgement in superficial pleasure, to work for something bigger and greater.
You saying Alexander is an S is like saying he has no vision. Does Alexander seem like someone that has no vision?
Alexander was an SP, instead of an NP, because he prefered action (Se) rather than speculation (Ne).
He was also visionnary because of the Se-Ni balance. But he was also more egalitarian and less bossy than most king of his era. 7, not 8.
He wasn't a 7 and he wasn't a ESTP.
If he was a 7 he would be concerned about getting drunk and having fun than inheriting his father's legacy and building an empire. And if he was an ESTP he would at times exhibit ESTJ characteristics.
Your Slavoj Zizek is a shitty example. I don't even know who that guy is.
Anyway I know much more about Mao than about Alexander. Most of what I do and who I am today is by following his footsteps.
Alexander was an SP, instead of an NP, because he prefered action (Se) rather than speculation (Ne).
He was also visionnary because of the Se-Ni balance. But he was also more egalitarian and less bossy than most king of his era. 7, not 8.
I always saw him as an image type (3w2, 3w4 or 4w3 Sx/So) but I could definitely see 7 as well
No seriously, keep your crackpot theories to yourself.
I have only one word to comment on this: stupidity.
Imagine if Alexander got mistyped, we would be fucked then.
Let's clear up a little bit of misunderstanding about enneagram, here.
Enneagram 8's are usually only ENTJ's and/or ISTP's. Those that strive for Truth in life.
If Alexander were enneagram 8 he'd be either ENTJ or ISTP, which does not make sense to me, due to his impetuous approach to conquest and desire to be loved (by all). Therefore he was either ENTP or ESTP, but we know ESTP's do not necessarily do well on long term ambitions and Alexander had the future of an empire to consider, therefore he is ENTP, definitely.
I disagree. There is no misunderstanding other than you like to keep the 8 monopoly with the ENTJ. Of course I never taken the enneagram seriously. (I already argue about that ENTJ being a fraud so many times its getting tiresome). The only resort I have is to forcibly take over the forum and impose my rule.
You are like saying being an 8 is an ENTJ reserved right which no other type can claim. Sorry, I cannot buy this BS.
As with the rest of the forum, you can keep believing the BS that just by switiching from P to J you get the magic power to be an 8 (which I really think will make that much difference if you are borderline), but of course I will not entertain that stupidity.
ESTP with vision=ENTP
I don't think you even watched the video. And you haven't differentiated how a 7 is different from a 8 other than repeating your point.
I always saw him as an image type (3w2, 3w4 or 4w3 Sx/So) but I could definitely see 7 as well
...stereotype much
I could see that. 7s have a way of seeming like they care what people think when they really don't (I know this happens to me a lot)As socially skilled as he was, Alexande had very few considerations for what people thought af him.
that's true, but I was arguing that it wouldn't stop all 7s from conquest and expansion (this is particularly true of 7w8). looking back on it though, too much partying and getting drunk kinda got him killed XDYes. But he was concerned with having fun and getting drunk.
yeahSo his comment has no value anyway.