Provoker
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PeaceBaby: Since the world is only constituted of your perception of it.
Provoker: No. I never stated this or implied it.
That's right. I stated it, it's my argument. I didn't say you did.
Ok fair enough. However, to avoid this sort of miscommunication in the future one should not use "your" in a dialogue when discussing one's own argument--especially on the internet where verbal content takes precedence over intonation (Note: in realtime, where tone, accents, animation, and mannerisms are typicially more important in communicating ideas for many people, 'you' is more forgiveable, though still it's a rather loose way of speaking). That said, it would be more effective to generalize and state, "my thesis is that the world is only constituted of people's perception of it," and then provide evidence to support your thesis. This would have avoided the miscommunication that ensued.
Your smug sense of self-importance and inability to view the issue in an explorative way would take the pleasure out of it, so no thanks.
This is an ad hominem fallacy.
You haven't. Who's making "rash assumptions" now? I was pointing out that if the only tool you have to point out another's argumentative weakness is to bash their IQ, then who is the one lacking intelligence here? Certainly not me. That leaves ... you.
When you bring in the word 'dis' it denotes a qualitative experience on your behalf: that the content of what was said was such that it collided with your own perception of yourself and made you feel 'dissed.' I only questioned your intelligence when you clearly identified with Kangirl in stating that you don't know what this thread is about. To date, you two are the odd ones out as everyone else has given a more or less valuable response that is on topic while the two of you have not.
I only made one assumption, and then not really - I was trying to make an initial point that your god-like freethinker wouldn't exist.
In your defense, I will concede that some of your assumptions are logical, but just so the record is clear you did make more than one assumption. Here's just a few:
1. You assumed that the god-like freethinker doesn't exist.
2. You assumed that I think the god-like freethinker is perfect.
3. You assumed that if your type of perfection doesn't exist, neither does mine.
4. You assumed (jokingly or not) that more sex appeal and crosswords may induce freethinkers to buy their newspapers.
5. You assumed that perfection cannot exist in an imperfect world.
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Thus, the statement that you only made one assumption is false.
And in case you hadn't noticed, you have made several assumptions yourself. 1. You latched on to and expanded on the word perfection from my OP, I did not. 2. My feelings are not hurt. Not even a little bit. 3. And I am fully equipped with sufficient intelligence despite your attempt to diminish it.
I agree that I made assumptions which I reason are correct.
1. You introduced the idea of perfection, despite my best efforts in the OP to launch a discussion about marketing to freethinkers.
2. Then why use words like 'dis'? If we are to leave feelings out of it, then words like this should not enter the discourse. If used, one is compelled to associate a word like that with a qualitative feeling experienced by the reader due to the content that's been communicated.
3. My ambition was never to diminish your intelligence. In fact, I doubt I'm in a position to have any effect on your intelligence. What I did do was speculate that this could be linked to the reason why you and Kangirl don't understand (or don't want to understand) this thread while others have given interesting responses. By the way, in one of your posts you did provide an "obvious answer" to the main question and I noted that. I'm a proponent of symmetry: bringing IQ into it was only a slight provocation to counterbalance your placation of Kangirl's feined incomprehension. In truth, I don't think an appeal to low IQ is any more relevant than you and Kangirl actually not understanding what the OP is about. So, are we cool?