Mole
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And it might throw lightning rods to the likes of the Victors of this world.
Hey, I'm one of the Victors of this world.
And it might throw lightning rods to the likes of the Victors of this world.
Yea, the idea of them or them specifically/individually. There are a lot of differences.
Other threads on this channel have inspired me to ask this question. Do you believe in a God? This God can be of a specific religion such as Christianity, or can be Nature, Scientific rules, an Initiator, whatever. I will start by saying I believe in a God.
"There are things that we just can't deduce from particle physics -- life, agency, meaning, value and this thing called consciousness. The fact is that we can act on our own behalf and make choices. So agency is real. With agency comes value. Dinner is either good or bad. There's consciousness in the universe. We may not be able to explain it, but it's true. So the first new strand in the scientific worldview is emergence"
God enough | Salon.com <<< this comes very close to what i believe and why i believe it. Agency is real with agency comes value. I absolutely believe in a conscious universe with energy, particles and a deep connection to nature...I also believe in a synergetic meaningful connection though all life forms that is unseen but eventually will be become relevant. The internet is as close as we can come to comprehending this or attempting a mimic of it. but it is much larger.
"God is the sacredness of nature. And you can go a step beyond that. You can say that God is nature. That's the God of Spinoza. That's the God that Einstein believed in. But their view of the universe was deterministic. The new view is that evolution of the universe is partially lawless and ceaselessly creative. We are the children of that creativity. One either does or does not take the step of saying God is the creativity of the universe. I do. Or you say there is divinity in the creativity in the universe. If we can't transform our secular humanist, consumerist worldview into one in which we have this sense of responsibility, awe and wonder for the planet and all life, then we can't invent a global ethic. Yet we need it to create a transnational, mythic structure to sustain the global civilization that's emerging."
There is no one sitting in a seat waiting to judge us, its scary to me people still believe that. in that case i believe in Thor and oden and the old gods . That's my actual preference is we are doing fairy tales.
There might as well be a creator but I really can't but the story that he cares about what we eat, who we have sex with, do we masturbate, do we worship him...