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Is America great now?

Is America great now?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • No

    Votes: 29 76.3%
  • This question is mean.

    Votes: 4 10.5%

  • Total voters
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ceecee

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No doubt. The day after Christmas will the detonation of the atom bomb of homelessness. The moratoriums just delayed the inevitable because of how shortsighted the government was to believe everything would just be restored back to normal by the end of the year, meanwhile things are now more dire than they were even back in March, all while lots of industries were never really able to get restarted due to the pandemic, thus preventing people from catching up on the wages they missed as this whole of debt continued to be dug with their missed rent payments.

This is going to radicalize people faster than any amount of scary socialism talk possibly could. When people see the wealthy making billions hand over fist and the govt. passing money out to them like candy...here is the find out portion of the fuck around and find out show.
 

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No doubt. The day after Christmas will the detonation of the atom bomb of homelessness. The moratoriums just delayed the inevitable because of how shortsighted the government was to believe everything would just be restored back to normal by the end of the year, meanwhile things are now more dire than they were even back in March, all while lots of industries were never really able to get restarted due to the pandemic, thus preventing people from catching up on the wages they missed as this whole of debt continued to be dug with their missed rent payments.

short-sighted is the word
 

ygolo

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short-sighted is the word

Even if all the dominoes started falling before January of next year, a lot of the blame will be on the incoming government. All the people being super forgiving about circumstances now, will suddenly start questioning why things haven't recovered yet.

That is unless Biden-Harris pulls of a miracle, and the senate doesn't become obstructionist specifically to win political points for a bad economy.
 

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That is unless Biden-Harris pulls of a miracle,.

eeeeh.... I don't think that's really a crack team. Somehow I don't trust that the guy whose main pitch was that he was Obama's friend is going to be able to deal very well with unprecedented circumstances. It is hilarious that Trump lost to him, though.
 

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Even if all the dominoes started falling before January of next year, a lot of the blame will be on the incoming government. All the people being super forgiving about circumstances now, will suddenly start questioning why things haven't recovered yet.

That is unless Biden-Harris pulls of a miracle, and the senate doesn't become obstructionist specifically to win political points for a bad economy.

lady luck...that'd be some hail mary
 

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Maybe this belongs in the random political thought thread more than this one but between the US and UK which do you think has more of its political leadership and representatives hooked on cocaine and lacking to foreign drug traffickers?
 

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This is going to radicalize people faster than any amount of scary socialism talk possibly could. When people see the wealthy making billions hand over fist and the govt. passing money out to them like candy...here is the find out portion of the fuck around and find out show.

I read about three or four of the US' celebrity billionaires making something like 600 million during the pandemic today. They are the celebrity ones too. The real old money are people who you are never likely to have heard of, or ever likely to hear of.

However, I cant help but believe that the newly destitute are going to recognize who the real enemy is and will instead buy these stories about victims of some sort of racist conspiracy. They'll then do what they always do (and the rich can rely on them doing, all down the years) and turn on one another.
 

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Just so far as the pandemic does go, with the stories about it arising from chemical labs and/or wet markets, surely this whole thing has had the upshot of indicating that the same sort of thing could very easily happen again. In fact that its positively likely that it will. It could/will be even more lethal "next time" I'm predicting as for a lot of people the last year has been such a mental crisis inducing mess.

Objectively none of the governments globally, with possible exceptions of NZ and Canada, have been that great at prevailing upon their populations to rediscover some sort of concern about their self-preservation.

This matters because its the same reason that American isnt going to be "great" again and that neither capitalism or socialism is likely to work.

I think there's been a crisis in social responsibility for a while, reflected in water and utilities monopoly privatization, drugs epidemics, there's a crisis in personal responsibility too. Striking some sort of a balance between those two, or, hell, even realizing they are not mutually exclusive, is exactly what pandemic disease should be a lesson in. Its not been. Instead its just been a matter of counting the cost of the population at large getting increasingly stupid and believing rubbish.
 

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However, I cant help but believe that the newly destitute are going to recognize who the real enemy is and will instead buy these stories about victims of some sort of racist conspiracy.

Yup. This is why we need an actual Left, and allow for the creation of an option that will actually try to fix these problems (not small "improvements" that get undone by the next administration, anyway). Because if we don't, what we're going to see is lots of people blaming them on BS, which I suspect the system will be fine with because it lets them continue to do as they have always done.
 

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No doubt. The day after Christmas will the detonation of the atom bomb of homelessness. The moratoriums just delayed the inevitable because of how shortsighted the government was to believe everything would just be restored back to normal by the end of the year, meanwhile things are now more dire than they were even back in March, all while lots of industries were never really able to get restarted due to the pandemic, thus preventing people from catching up on the wages they missed as this whole of debt continued to be dug with their missed rent payments.

Why do you think the cops have really been militarizing lately eh?
 

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Why do you think the cops have really been militarizing lately eh?

Makes you wonder to what extent the obstructionist Republican party is orchestrating these events by design. It is without question that the Republicans are doing as little as they can possibly get away with in order for the economy to collapse under Biden to further their narrative of how the radical left will destroy this country yadda yadda ect. I just wonder how deep the well actually goes. Is the majority of the Republican party compromised? Whether by design, default or pure ignorance, whether or not Donald Trump is an agent of Vladimir Putin knowing or unwittingly, everything Putin has sought to inflict upon western democracy has almost all came to pass. Then, you've got Rand Paul and other Republican senators spending July 4th in Russia, and now Rand Paul is further pushing the narrative of a stolen election despite the insistence from McConnell to cease questioning the election now that it has been certified. Who's really in charge, and what do these Republican senators have to gain from all this should democracy fall? Is the end goal for the Republican party to create an American plutocracy?
 

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Makes you wonder to what extent the obstructionist Republican party is orchestrating these events by design. It is without question that the Republicans are doing as little as they can possibly get away with in order for the economy to collapse under Biden to further their narrative of how the radical left will destroy this country yadda yadda ect. I just wonder how deep the well actually goes. Is the majority of the Republican party compromised? Whether by design, default or pure ignorance, whether or not Donald Trump is an agent of Vladimir Putin knowing or unwittingly, everything Putin has sought to inflict upon western democracy has almost all came to pass. Then, you've got Rand Paul and other Republican senators spending July 4th in Russia, and now Rand Paul is further pushing the narrative of a stolen election despite the insistence from McConnell to cease questioning the election now that it has been certified. Who's really in charge, and what do these Republican senators have to gain from all this should democracy fall? Is the end goal for the Republican party to create an American plutocracy?

Create? It already is a plutocracy.
 

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Makes you wonder to what extent the obstructionist Republican party is orchestrating these events by design. It is without question that the Republicans are doing as little as they can possibly get away with in order for the economy to collapse under Biden to further their narrative of how the radical left will destroy this country yadda yadda ect. I just wonder how deep the well actually goes. Is the majority of the Republican party compromised? Whether by design, default or pure ignorance, whether or not Donald Trump is an agent of Vladimir Putin knowing or unwittingly, everything Putin has sought to inflict upon western democracy has almost all came to pass. Then, you've got Rand Paul and other Republican senators spending July 4th in Russia, and now Rand Paul is further pushing the narrative of a stolen election despite the insistence from McConnell to cease questioning the election now that it has been certified. Who's really in charge, and what do these Republican senators have to gain from all this should democracy fall? Is the end goal for the Republican party to create an American plutocracy?

What do you mean create? Last I checked we're already there. Though I tend to think of our country as more an oligarchy than just a straight up; because America is a diverse melting pot of corruption.
 

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Create? It already is a plutocracy.

What do you mean create? Last I checked we're already there. Though I tend to think of our country as more an oligarchy than just a straight up; because America is a diverse melting pot of corruption.

My bad, bro(s).

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