as I said to DJ, the type of the accuser (or, more accurately, the "suggester") is irrelevant.
I was noting an observation. I could elaborate on why this is significant to me in my own experience, but for now, suffice to say that most 8s are more interested in their own sphere than in correcting others. Reading between the lines, this, of course, cuts both ways regarding the OP.
with any type, there will be big giveaways that a person is mistyped. some common traits that give away someone not being an 8 are if they're conflict avoidant (9 fixer) or extremely moralistic (1 fixer). there will be a few exceptions to this obviously (for example, my mom is a 2w1 with an 8w7 fix, and she's pretty fuckin moralistic LOL), but it's often blatantly clear someone is mistyped and I don't think there is anything wrong with bringing it to their attention.
I agree, and I am not taking sides with regards to the OP.
I would add, however, that the fix tends to come out through the core type (a 2-fixed 5, for instance, isn't necessarily going to be "intrusive", though they may have a desire to be seen as helpful).
Your mom sounds like quite a mix, btw!
personally, I call out people of all types if I think they're mistyped (at the moment, I'm actually conversing with someone mistyped as a 6 and explaining to him why he is an obvious 1 XD). one PerC, I'm far more notorious for overtyping 2s and telling 7s that they're mistyped (like, when people say they're really self forgetting and constantly focused on other people. that's 2/9/p6) than I am witch hunting mistyped 6s
And your suggestions have always been very helpful in my observation (even if I sometimes disagree, though not with the above). Again, the 6-hunters are not on this forum, and you're not part of the communities I am referencing, anyway.
as it pertains to 8s, the main problem is twofold
1) most 8 descriptions are absolutely dreadful and don't capture what it is actually about at all.
2) most 6 descriptions are terrible and make most 6s sound like Sp/So ISFJs with a 9 fix.
I strongly agree with this point. Most 6 descriptions I have seen are mediocre-to-crappy, condescendingly written, and/or taken from poor sources. Moreover, online discussion of differences between the two invariably wind up insulting the 6 while extolling the 8, and this is incredibly unfortunate.
Sixes have acquired the reputation of being scaredy-cat buddy-buddy SJ conformists, leaving the bolder folks of this type unable to see themselves (hence the mistypes). Many prominent 8 descriptions overlap with attributes of cp6, obscuring the truly distinguishing traits of both types.
I don't think we need to have the perception that 8s are hardened monsters, however; a number of verifiable core 8s I've spoken with IRL seemed to feel they weren't "overt" or "barbaric" enough to be core 8s (and this is especially true of the women of this type).
this is a good point, but, at the same time, people's personalities come across online more than they think, and it's the "careless" comments that are often the most revealing about a person (of course, I'm not suggesting people go all conspiracy theorist/crazy detective with it and project all manner of intentions onto a comment with multiple valid interpretations. that's just stupid)
No no. No conspiracy theories. I am actually referencing those who only half-read posts, who fail to pick up on sarcasm, who try to correlate word-usage with type, or who read a verbal ulterior motive where none actually exists. I find this to be absolutely one of the most frustrating aspects of online forums.
Second, I'm speaking as an image type--there's actually very little I will say "carelessly" (as in, showing my ignorance about myself and the types)--however, there is quite a lot I will say differently about myself depending on the mood I am in. I am careless
that way. Also, I imagine most people (regardless of triad) are fairly good at saying the "right" things once they've learned enough about the enneagram.
As near as I've been able to tell, it's far more revealing how people interact with others on the message board than their literal words. I would hesitate to type someone as 2-fixed, for instance, simply because they said .
..oh, and I really like helping people people and make it a rule to do one random act of kindness per day. A lot of reasons someone could feel that way (hence my line about interpretation).
Anyway, good thoughts.