EJCC
The Devil of TypoC
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- Aug 29, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- ESTJ
- Enneagram
- 1w9
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- sp/so
Seems about right. ENTJs are a lot better at "letting loose", IME; ESTJs have more of a hard time overcoming their tendency to be uptight and overly controlled. (I agree that you probably wouldn't mistake an ESTJ for an ESTP, in part for that reason.)All of the ENTJs I know have pretty apparent Se when they're not in work mode (so if you only see them in work mode, you may never see it). They can almost look ESTP'ish at times -- something probably a little difficult to confuse an ESTJ for. When I go hang out with my ENTJ friend, he's all about bungee jumping off bridges, breaking into park reserves in the middle of the night, and crazy drinking contests. He usually out-SP's me, in fact. If I could sum of one ENTJ friend in particular, he's just excessive -- works hard, plays hard. When he picks up a new idea, theory, way of thinking, he just goes all out... kind of like an ENTP, but just more aggressively and confidently.
ESTJs who use their Ne a moderate amount, on the other hand, have come off as mild conspiracy theorists or sometimes as very spiritual/hippy. One ESTJ I know in particular was pretty hard to type because he was anti-government, conspiracy theorist, health nut, vegan. Maybe not your typical ESTJ, but definitely Te - Si - Ne.
ESTJs can also be pretty hard to type when they're feeling... shall I say... wacky. You think you can predict their sense of humor, and then they bust out the weirdest jokes, or recommend the darkest comedians out of nowhere. (Ne vs. Ni, I think.)
I recommended Emo Philips to my INTJ friend, and after she'd watched a video of his on YouTube, she just stared at me and went "I feel like I don't know you anymore."
Edit: Some thinking out loud... I've known ESTJs and ENTJs that liked to sometimes be adventurous and try interesting new things, but I think with ENTJs it was more about the thrill of the moment (Se), while it wasn't so much that for ESTJs. I love trying new things, but I'm terrible at being in the moment, so I usually end up analyzing those new things as they're happening.