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    Default Trying to zero in on my type, after looking into functions more. Help please.

    I have done research on the functions for the past three weeks or so, watched videos describing functions, etc. and have somewhat of a better idea of where I'm getting at in terms of the functions. I'll go through all of them and tell you what I relate to out of all of them. Correct me if some are out of place.

    And yeah, I know this is annoying considering this new thread is right above a previous thread I posted a while back.

    [WARNING- WALL OF TEXT AHEAD: PROCEED WITH YOUR ATTENTION SPAN FULLY LOCKED IN PLACE]

    Introverted Feeling

    While I'm not selfish, sometimes, I can feel strongly about something even if someone else doesn't feel the same way, although sometimes a nagging part of me wants to feel the way that person does. I got this excerpt from ENFP wiki: "Fi allows its users to have an understanding of the core or essence of people quickly." I can sometimes relate to this. I can be too self critical of myself, have self esteem issues, and have a hard time believing really positive commentary directed towards me.

    Extraverted Feeling

    I try to consider the needs of others. I try to be loyal. I can read emotions pretty well. I've gotten better at expressing my emotions over the years, but I wouldn't say I'm necessarily great at it. I can laugh when other people are laughing, even if the cause of external laughing wasn't very funny.
    Inferior style: I sometimes have trouble relating to others (this is usually due to interests). I used to have slight anger issues, to the point where I would kick doors down. I actually still do sometimes get destructive when I am really angry, and feel like I have to let it out. I have been slowly getting more emotional, even in unexpected situations, and I feel like I have to bottle up my emotions and am afraid of letting them spill out. I am also slowly getting more and more affected by the external emotions of an environment. I have a desire to fit in into certain groups, to an extent, but I sometimes have trouble with this (especially in the past).

    Introverted Sensing

    I am nostalgic, actually going way back to when I was a kid, around the age of 10 or so (leading me once to consider the possibility of me being Si-dom, or an ISFJ, but that seems unlikely). I attach certain memories to certain objects or music (this happens often, not just memories but actual thoughts in my head at a time!). I am sometimes reminded of a previous situation, by being in a similar situation related to a previous situation. Sometimes I have an experience or moment that I have been in, that stood out for whatever reason to me (peaceful, fascinating, etc.) and try to replicate it. I have a strong internal memory of different tastes and smells, and am reminded of experiences associated with that piece of sensory data.

    Extraverted Sensing

    Sometimes when I'm learning something concrete (like working with computers) I have to see how it works, an image, or witness it working in order to fully understand it, or finalize my understanding. I am aware of my surroundings to an extent, or "good enough" (even though I don't always notice everything in a room, or all of the details of components making up an object, or there may be something I have never noticed in a place that I am familiar with). If I am in the right mindset, at ease (not stressed), and in a good mood, I can live in the moment, to an extent. Certain aesthetics can fascinate and stimulate me, but not have a strong effect on my mood. I want to have new experiences, and travel (but this mainly has to do with me not having many experiences in my life, in my 18 mundane years of existence). I have a pretty observational and somewhat physically-oriented sense of humor. I tend to prefer realistic video games over fantasy oriented ones. I like to go out in severe weather, mainly for the pure thrill of it, but also to see how it develops. I have good eye sight and sensitive hearing. I have a fascination for abstract art/design.
    Inferior style: I may overprepare for something I may expect (I have a phobia of loud noises, so during thunderstorms I would cover my ears in case a loud strike would crash; while I don't do this anymore I still fear a crash). I may watch a tv show or play a certain video game to escape (not to necessarily "escape" from reality but distract myself from it). Sometimes I get intimidated by certain things, when I was a kid I thought bare trees looked creepy. Sometimes I might stare at some random object longer than I should (like for 5 seconds or so). I sometimes overindulge in binge eating, although not to a huge extent.

    Introverted Thinking

    I question a lot, and I am always contemplating and introspecting. I usually have to have a period of contemplation on something before I can make an opinion (basically, I take external information (facts, opinions, insight, etc.), check for accuracy, take out what is irrelevant, mix in related internal information and form an information pool, and form an idea that doesn't conclude [or is close to conclude, or an open conclusion] Basically, I form my own opinion based on past data I have collected and opinions I have formed, correlating with recent external data that seems accurate and makes sense to me. If I am in the right mindset, I like figuring out how systems work, so everything related to it can make sense to me. I am always changing my mind on certain things. When I am exploring a subject, eventually I feel like I have to know everything about it and related to it. I can point out flaws in any passage, if I know what's wrong with it.

    Extraverted Thinking

    Sometimes in conversation, I can jump from one idea to another. Sometimes I need external validation to feel confident in an opinion or open conclusion (like for example; me posting this thread to get external output). Sometimes I rearrange things in their right order (like, red pens go along with red and green pens go along with green). If there is empirical information that I agree with, I lean towards it, but not in a rigid stance. Unless I'm obsessed with something, I don't dig really deep into a specific thought for a long period of time. I've been fascinated by creating bar graphs and charts, and such. Sometimes, if I'm concerned about something, I feel like I need results immediately. Although this could be anxiety working with curiosity.

    Introverted iNtuiting

    I look towards the future, usually. I create an ideal of who I want to be (like I have a mental image in my head of who I could be in the future) and try to work at it, but the thing is that mental image usually changes depending on my preferences. I can sometimes envision transformations of people, including imagining what someone may look like in the future, or notice the mental evolution of someone (i.e. lazy, poor guy to hard working middle class man). I have these sudden bursts of insight sometimes, and I have to explain it in my head in order to have an idea of how to put it into words. This usually occurs when I'm contemplating. If I want to, I can combine related possibilities. I might have the ability to form theories by combining and contrasting information. I sometimes get accurate or inaccurate impressions of how things work, like how electricity may flow through an object, even if I have barely any knowledge about it. I do tend to seek out causes of things and apply them to whatever I am concerned about.

    Extraverted iNtuiting

    I can come up with many possibilities to a situation, maybe slower than the average Ne user since my ADHD can kick in and switch my attention to other things. My sense of humor has an Ne vibe to it, looking at scenarios and coming up with all sorts of wacky comments (like, snapback hats looking like severed duck heads, just a little wider). It has a "training" effect to it as well, shifting from scenario to scenario, mostly in relation. I look at photos and point out what they look like (like, if there's an outline that looks like the middle finger, I'll call that out. Although that could be a little Si). I tend to start things, but have trouble finishing them sometimes. Sometimes I even have a possibility in my mind but it takes forever for me to make it come to fruition! I am studying computer networking, and I'm coming up with a lot of ways to help burn this information into my memory (because this will be my job some day, hopefully). Ideas are branching out, from one idea to another, and related ideas forming off of those other ideas, occasionally. I can be pretty creative at photoshop. Sometimes, if I'm not lost in my thoughts, my mind tells me to search for more details in the external world, even if it isn't important (like for example, if I'm in a car and I'm passing by a graveyard, I immediately notice the graves, but I'm driving by and leaving the scene quickly, so my mind tells me to read some of the names or try to notice something else for the hell of it...)

    Other things about me:

    I am an 18 year old male.
    I suffer from social anxiety, depression, ADHD, and PTSD, all to certain extents and varying.
    I sometimes tend to skim through details or passages to get a big picture, which can be inaccurate. This is my ADHD speaking for itself, I think.
    I am fascinated by INTPs, and I sometimes wonder that ever since I took that humanmetrics test as accurately as possible the first time and got INTP, my mind has been tricking me to adapt INTP personality traits? I haven't been doing this deliberately though, and this is probably just a foofy possibility my intuition has sparked.
    Sometimes I can use sarcasm as a defense mechanism.
    I can make fun of people, either in a light hearted way or if someone does something stupid.
    While I don't always necessarily agree with them, I can be fascinated by labels and why anything is categorized and labeled.
    Sometimes I question whether or not something I am learning will be useful later on in life, or if I should bother learning it, even though I have a desire to get smarter and smarter, mainly for sake of having more to talk about or think about. I also feel like my high IQ (I've been told I have one) shouldn't be wasted.
    I am sometimes interested in people's lives and what people do for a living, mainly to build on my insight for how I feel about people and society, and it also helps me form opinions on people.
    Sometimes when I'm in conversation with someone and someone explains something obvious to me, I might respond with "Yeah, I know...". I realize this might be rude?
    I used to base some decisions on how I felt about how things were right or wrong, however this was usually when I was a kid, and I was told right from wrong a lot by my parents and school.
    Sometimes I can be impulsive, in the past I was very impulsive (which was anxiety driven) to the point where I would deliberately put myself in dangerous situations (like for example, sticking a knife through an outlet, or measuring how much pressure it would take to break an LCD screen) just to see what would happen.
    When I have a lot of thoughts roaming and circulating my mind, I feel so anxious/excited/stimulated and need to move around. The funny thing is, movement generates my thoughts. Another possible ADHD trait?
    Sometimes, when I'm listening to music, images relating to lyrics pop into my mind. However, this isn't automatic; I have to be listening to the lyrics in order for this to occur.
    I tell myself I'll do or get into something in the future, but I don't do it right away because I feel like shit at the moment, or I'm too lazy, etc. So I guess I'd say I base my short term decisions on how I feel.
    I don't usually have trouble being decisive, from what I can recall. Maybe sometimes I am?
    I could be practical, and I can't recall, but as a kid I may have been, I'm not sure though. My memory is foofy, foggy, and somewhat flawed. But I am a space cadet right now, so when I am in practical situations sometimes I have to let myself settle in and analyze things for a moment or two before getting my hands dirty. It also depends if I'm in the right mindset. Sometimes, I have no idea how to even take something apart, that others can do.
    I daydream a lot, and think about a shit ton of hypothetical situations and scenarios, as vague as they may be. I daydream in school a lot, and depression is a generator for such, so that distracts me from doing other productive things, like gaining knowledge or creating hobbies.
    I recite passages or external information that stimulates me, in my head.
    If someone really pisses me off, or does something very disrespectful in my opinion, I will stop talking to them unless they redeem themselves in my mind. This includes family. (Yeah, I have issues. I know.)
    I see life as it is (issues, current events, etc.), but also see it for what it could be. The more knowledge I gain, the more insight I will have related to that.
    I'm not too interested in war, world history, and politics.
    I have a hard time learning things I'm not interested in, either because I have a potential learning disability, or all my mental energy is focused on what I'm interested in. Or it could be something entirely different. Hard to pinpoint.
    I never really got into watching sports as a kid, but very recently I started following baseball. I wasn't athletic as a kid, but I was physically active.
    I have anxiety towards things that seem a little "off" to me, like the sound of a voice over the phone, or seeing my reflection in the dark. Also, older technologies sometimes tend to freak me out for some reason, too. I can't pinpoint why for the life of me. I tend to slightly freak out in situations like these. I have been like this ever since I had a dream when I was 4 years old - consisting of me looking at a reflection of myself on a TV screen in the dark, and suddenly a ghost appeared on the TV screen and threatened me.
    I've usually strived to get to the end result in anything out of curiosity (video games for example), but recently I've learned it's the process that is most important; it tells you exactly HOW you got to the result, and what you need to do to get there. For example, you can be on a road trip from Miami to Los Angeles, and as soon as you reach San Antonio, you could automatically teleport to LA, without knowing how you got there. Sometimes you need to know how you got there in between; in regards to the road trip situation, what if maps became non-existant out of the blue one day?
    I like learning new things mainly so I can have more things to talk about, but as of late, I feel like it would help me theorize better.
    I can imagine my capabilities in the future; and see myself having the ability to come up with all kinds of theories, or forming theories combining information.
    I usually plan my actions or decisions in advance, but I'm always willing to change them.
    There's a possibility I could be on the Ne-Si axis since I sometimes have a tendency to connect new information with past related information, although I would guess anyone can do that to an extent.
    Sometimes I need to look at other people's insight or perspectives to recognize the context of a situation. This could be due to my lack of variety of knowledge.
    I can become energized by socializing and interacting with the external world (since it can boost my confidence), but I need time alone to contemplate, a lot, and I feel like if I socialize for excessive amounts of time, I might need time alone to recharge (I haven't been in many situations where I have socialized or interacted with the external world excessively). This makes me consider the possibility of being ambiverted.
    Sometimes I get so passionate about my thoughts and possibilities, that strong feelings arise from them.
    Whenever something negative happens to me, or when I have negative thoughts, negative possibilities and hypothetical scenarios start branching out in my head.
    If I'm really depressed, stressed out, or really unhappy with myself, I can go through a withdrawal period (sometimes lasting weeks or months!) where I discern and analyze all of the issues related to my life and contemplate about it, and sometimes come up with ways to possibly fix it, or just wallow in grim conditions until more positive momentum attempts to give me motivation to try and move forward.
    If I really love someone, I would try my hardest to do almost anything for them, like bending over backwards for them (even possibly sacrificing logic in certain situations!)
    A nagging part of me is really thirsty for love. It could be just out of curiosity since I've never experienced it before, and my possible intuition tells me it's a really great experience.
    I have formed many hypothetical situations where I have been in situations consisting of love. In the past, I have actually felt that I would only be content if I just had love, but I was mentally shallow back then.

    Sorry if this was TL;DR as frozen hell, but I wanted to be descriptive as possible so you guys can have more accurate insight.
    "For a minute there, I lost myself...I lost myself."

    LOUIS CK: "We don't think about how we talk"
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    ISFJ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    ISFJ?
    What makes you think so? Unless you were questioning my mention of the slight possibility of being ISFJ?

    EDIT- I was a little misguided in my OP. I thought I understood the functions better back then, but I really didn't, at least not as much as I do now (I'm still not totally understanding though).

    Most of the stuff I said about me though reigns true at the moment, however.
    "For a minute there, I lost myself...I lost myself."

    LOUIS CK: "We don't think about how we talk"
    http://zenpencils.com/comic/95-louis...t-how-we-talk/

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    All I'm confident of is that you're an introvert (obviously) and that you probably use Si. I'm an INFP, and everything you described under both Se and Si are pretty much what I would have written as well. So the possibilities would then be INTP, INFP, ISTJ, and ISFJ.

    It's weird; you don't have the stereotypical INFP vibe at all, yet I identify the majority of the points at the end. They're minor things about myself and which I wouldn't have thought to include on a post like that, but still. You definitely seem Ne-Si or Si-Ne to me. And probably not Fi.

    I'm sure you've heard of Dominant-Tertiary loops, but at this point in your attempt to type yourself, I'd focus on that. With depression, PTSD, etc. plus the fact that you've had such difficulty discerning your type, a strong dom-tert loop is likely.

    I'd say INTP or ISFJ. (That might also explain why you're only confident of being an Ixxx.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by decrescendo View Post
    All I'm confident of is that you're an introvert (obviously) and that you probably use Si. I'm an INFP, and everything you described under both Se and Si are pretty much what I would have written as well. So the possibilities would then be INTP, INFP, ISTJ, and ISFJ.

    It's weird; you don't have the stereotypical INFP vibe at all, yet I identify the majority of the points at the end. They're minor things about myself and which I wouldn't have thought to include on a post like that, but still. You definitely seem Ne-Si or Si-Ne to me. And probably not Fi.

    I'm sure you've heard of Dominant-Tertiary loops, but at this point in your attempt to type yourself, I'd focus on that. With depression, PTSD, etc. plus the fact that you've had such difficulty discerning your type, a strong dom-tert loop is likely.

    I'd say INTP or ISFJ. (That might also explain why you're only confident of being an Ixxx.)
    Jung didn't really emphasize on dom-tert loops from what I've heard. I don't know much about it, though, so maybe the theory is on to something?
    "For a minute there, I lost myself...I lost myself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiesgonnadie View Post
    Jung didn't really emphasize on dom-tert loops from what I've heard. I don't know much about it, though, so maybe the theory is on to something?
    probably, I think most people relate to those descriptions regardless of whether they qualify for the personality disorder (I wasn't trying to tell you that you're schizotypal!)

    and I don't know, INFP/ISTJ are also possible since you mentioned social anxiety. what are you leaning towards right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by decrescendo View Post
    probably, I think most people relate to those descriptions regardless of whether they qualify for the personality disorder (I wasn't trying to tell you that you're schizotypal!)

    and I don't know, INFP/ISTJ are also possible since you mentioned social anxiety. what are you leaning towards right now?
    I'm leaning towards 6 different types at the moment; IxxP and INxJ. I still am trying to distinguish the Ji and Pe functions. Once I do, I may have a better idea of my type. I don't see myself as being an Si-dom (I'm not really a traditionalist, then again I'm 18 so) but it is possible, I guess.
    "For a minute there, I lost myself...I lost myself."

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    You seem to use a lot of Si and not too much Ne. There are many stereotypes about Si-doms on the Internet.
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    INTP seems reasonable. If the tertiary loop hypothesis is correct, you could be in a Ti-Si loop. Maybe INxJ. Think for a moment the biggest crux of your being. Is it more to do with issues about people and getting along/understanding them (inf-Fe) or sensitivity to external stimuli and misusing/ignoring external data (Se)? Perhaps neither?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    INTP seems reasonable. If the tertiary loop hypothesis is correct, you could be in a Ti-Si loop. Maybe INxJ. Think for a moment the biggest crux of your being. Is it more to do with issues about people and getting along/understanding them (inf-Fe) or sensitivity to external stimuli and misusing/ignoring external data (Se)? Perhaps neither?
    I was born with sensory issues (louder hearing) so I do have sensitivity to loud noises, and I have been spacey when it comes to detail, however, I have had anxiety for the past 3 years, so that is probably the reason why. Yet, I've always wanted to fit in with groups, and have struggled to do so at times, although, this isn't a huge issue that much anymore, because I have started to care less about it (Based off of my observations most people my age are....well...stupid).

    I'll distinguish how I relate to the two inferior functions:

    Fe: When someone is being rigid, illogical, or just not making sense to me; I dissagree with them, and when they react negatively towards it, I can get annoyed, and even very pissed off, depending on the severity of the reaction. I detach myself, and am not myself in stressful situations, either relating to external things or certain things going on with me, like personal issues or depression. When I get really pissed off, I can become destructive. I smash things, and I used to cause self harm when I was an early adolescent (like biting my arms really hard). This usually manifests at home. I am slowly becoming more and more emotional (even though I could be emotional as a kid, but it usually related to fustration), crying more often, and even in situations where crying doesn't apply. (although, crying usually is the result of internal thoughts, worries, and stressors). When I am passionate about something, it is usually all or nothing, emphasized to at times, an extreme. Example: if I really love someone (romantically, usually), I would do so much for them, make exceptions for them, and bend over backwards for them, even to the point of re-considering and twisting my own thoughts and even dismissing logic! I had a strong desire to fit in with groups in the past, and still do, but it used to be more extreme; I even went into an "internal chameleon" mode and made myself out to be more like my peers at one point, so I could fit in and be like the people I admired, and desired to fit in with. I sometimes tend to laugh when others are laughing, even if the cause of external laughter isn't even that funny.

    Se: A couple of times I have overprepared for something negative I anticipated (I have a phobia of loud noises, so during thunderstorms I would cover my ears in case a loud strike would crash; while I don't do this anymore I still fear a crash). I binge eat when I'm bored. I may watch viral videos or play video games to distract myself from my problems. I've also been slightly anxious towards the external world, and even being on my own. A part of me expects the worst, and thinks people are against me in some ways, or think I'm worthless.
    "For a minute there, I lost myself...I lost myself."

    LOUIS CK: "We don't think about how we talk"
    http://zenpencils.com/comic/95-louis...t-how-we-talk/

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