SolitaryWalker
Tenured roisterer
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- Apr 23, 2007
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- MBTI Type
- INTP
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- Instinctual Variant
- so/sx
Lets name all the meritorious NFs throughout history, and POP-Heroes do not deserve mention here.
Why dont we start bringing up names like Ghandi, Buddha, Jesus, Plato and so on? That is not even half of it and those four were all INFJs.
This sounds plausible. So what type was the goob that invented fire? An NT or a Sensor?
- Ghandhi was probably INFJ.
- Buddha might have been INTP.
- Jesus is indeterminable because he was so well-rounded.
- I haven't read enough Plato to know about him, although obviously his belief in "Ideals" might suggest the NFJ thing.
- Stephen R. Donaldson, author of "Thomas Covenant" series and other fiction
This sounds plausible. So what type was the goob that invented fire? An NT or a Sensor?
- Jesus is indeterminable because he was so well-rounded.
Eeeehhhh, I really think Jesus is/was/shall be an NF. His rational side was always about ethics (F territory), not logic (T territory).
Seems to me you can do ethics with T as much as F.
Think about how INTPs tend to have strong principles as well as ENTJs.
Ethics can be founded on dispassioned thought just as much as they could be founded on sentiments. Many philosophers, Kant and Spinoza among them have attempted the former.
I'm always amused that people try to project type descriptions onto historic figures.
eg Hey Buddha! Must be INTP, right? Ha.
-Geoff
The "F" (in particular, the Fi) is not about sentiment. It's about "right" and "wrong". It's about values.
Eeeehhhh, I really think Jesus is/was/shall be an NF. His rational side was always about ethics (F territory), not logic (T territory).
I think it can be done only insomuch as we can "type" fictional characters. It's a pretty meaningless exercise, but it can be fun. I'd love to hear an actual rationale for the Buddha being INTP, though. I think it can be done, but rarely does anyone seem to try.
That was an INTP. Trust me.
I'm still not sure how to parse the one story from his childhood where he blew off his parents at the temple at age 12 when they left him behind and they had to go find him, then told them when they found him that basically they needed to not make a big deal out of things because he had to "attend to his Father's business" -- his answer seemed a little more T-blunt, not F-diplomatic. And that is the more "raw" Jesus we are seeing there, before he would have "smoothed out."
Seems to me you can do ethics with T as much as F.
Think about how INTPs tend to have strong principles as well as ENTJs.
Ethics can be founded on dispassioned thought just as much as they could be founded on sentiments. Many philosophers, Kant and Spinoza among them have attempted the former.