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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    More touching!
    More touching? There has been no touching. We keep are hands to ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceajoan View Post
    More touching? There has been no touching. We keep are hands to ourselves.
    Yes, that's what I mean. Touching is good. And can be subtle as well..

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    Nolla - that's an idea. It might be easier than the kissing.

    Where do INFP men like to be touched *clears throat*?

    Any suggestions? This has to be subtle right? I can't just go up and grab his crotch.

    Although that's what I feel like doing at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceajoan View Post


    Hmmm. I wonder if you're a Enneagram Type Five. I do hear about how INFPs (and Fives) tend to live in their own little imaginative worlds with imaginary friends, ghosts and goblins, that they can be distracted by this world, valuing their privacy they can cut themselves off from others. The ABSTRACT seems to be more valued than REALITY when it seems to become the focus of most of ones attention. I don't see how reality is viewed as more significant in this context. (I'm not challenging you as somehow misguided, I'm just trying to understand - I'm just not intuiting that an INFP would value REALITY more - and yet again, I know we're not talking about INFPs, we're talking about YOU).

    Why is SEX more real than any other human experience? An intellectual discussion is real, isn't it (although it has an abstract quality to it)?

    That's very astute of you. I actually am an enneagram type 5 and it's not that I value reality more in the current sense, but I aspire to value reality, I guess? I've just been hurt too many times by my own imagination and I'm looking for an alternative - the only one available being reality.

    I think this was just a poor choice of words on my part in the abstract vs. reality sense re: sex. You're right, sex is just as real as the intellectual discussion, but I guess - I'm not sure what I really mean, honestly. I guess what I'm trying to say is that something happens to the two people in a metaphysical sense that brings them together... I guess I'm trying to say sex "seals the deal" in terms of closeness. You can't get any closer to a person than sex? I don't know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Onceajoan View Post

    So basically, you're telling me "YES" I will have to wait forever because either:
    1) if he's not interested so there will NEVER be a move - get over it lady!
    2) it will move so slowly I will wait forever - I'll be dead and buried
    3) it'll be so subtle a move I won't recognize it as such so he'll feel rejected (eye gazing could fall into this category. Right? If I miss this move there won't be another).

    This makes me laugh >>>I make a move at the right time in the right way - which is slow and very subtle Sounds like a snake or some other kind of animal. Very cute.

    But that's just me, and that's IF i like the person.

    IF i like the person? That's harsh! What's the selection criteria?
    Again, I apologize, I think I had a very poor choice of words in my response. Honestly, when it comes down to it, reading your situation, IMO you just have to take the plunge. Do what you'd normally do and say how you'd normally say it. The real anxiety I see in all this is that you're trying to know something that you can't really know unless you make the decision you need to make - which is to tell him how you feel. I can appreciate trying to be as careful and as certain as possible before you make the decision, but the only real certainty can only come once you've taken that leap. And based on what you're saying it seems like the right decision.

    I think I'm slower than most when it comes to both recognizing if someone likes me and/or I like them, and doing something about it. As far as subtlety is concerned, I'd be subtle, but direct enough that I'd know the person would be able to pick up on it. Basically I'd do it directly enough so that I KNOW they'll pick up on it, but not so much that it'll scare them off. Just like anyone else, I'd assume.

    LOL, you're probably right. I do sound like a snake, but I'd probably pick a less evil looking animal. A sloth perhaps? Or a snail? :P

    Selection criteria of whether I like someone? God, that's a big question. I used to have criteria when I was much younger, but not so much anymore. I trust the chemistry - if it's strong and it just feels right I'll do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceajoan View Post
    This has to be subtle right? I can't just go up and grab his crotch.

    Although that's what I feel like doing at this point.
    Haahhaaaa.... You beast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceajoan View Post
    Any suggestions? This has to be subtle right? I can't just go up and grab his crotch.

    Although that's what I feel like doing at this point.

    HAHAHAHA! Too funny.

    In all seriousness, I'd try the hand first. Possibly the knee?

    Then go for the crotch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondBest View Post
    HAHAHAHA! Too funny.

    In all seriousness, I'd try the hand first. Possibly the knee?

    Then go for the crotch.
    How about a hand job? That would be killing two birds with one stone.

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    Even better, take his hand and guide it to your crotch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    Even better, take his hand and guide it to your crotch.
    Ha! ha! I didn't know I had a crotch. Where is it?

    Okay enough already or we're going to get kicked out for indecency or poor potty humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    Even better, take his hand and guide it to your crotch.
    Do this, with the hand job... at the same time. Now, THAT'S a winning strategy!

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