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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Just because some one says that he/she has a Ph.D that doesn't mean that the person actually has one. Not to mention that having a Ph.D is more than just possesing a piece of paper.

    (just saying)
    True. Isn't it illegal or something to falsely claim you have one? :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Or maybe his PhD is in electronics, or something equally unrelated to psychology.
    I would expect, perhaps foolishly, that someone with a Ph.D would have a certain amount of universally applicable intellect and general reasoning capablities.
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    If the US was an ENFJ:

    --the US would already have universal health care
    --the US would have gun legislation to help control the usage of firearms in crime
    --the US would have stronger foreign aid policies

    etc etc ... we are no idealist temperament in my books ...
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    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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    Ugh! While these armchair analyses are sometimes interesting frolics, they should never be confused with a serious, empirically based discussion of personality traits. Plus, this guy obviously doesn't have a sophisticated understanding of the instrument. It is NOT a Cosmo personality test people. Double ugh!

    Interesting segue:

    I've read from several sources that these are the MBTI types (per testing not just speculation) of these politicians:
    • Barack Obama - ENFJ
    • Bill Clinton - ENFP
    • Vladimir Putin - ISTJ

    True? Well, just because it's written down somewhere doesn't make it true. Nonetheless, I could spend about three weeks meandering the implications. Doesn't surprise me at all. Not at all. LOL!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Manifest View Post
    Reading this article, I get the feeling that the author doesn't know much about MBTI.
    You need to dumb things down for the masses. Writing to a layman, I thought he did a decent job overall in the article.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott N Denver View Post
    I'll bet he author is a NF, and is projecting NF values onto american society. US culture is generally considered ESTJ overall, especially work/business-wise.
    I would have said ENTJ or ESTJ - yes. It is a Te culture. The only question in my mind is N vs S. It feels like there is a lot of N there somehow - I can't explain it. (Maybe now I am projecting)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    If the US was an ENFJ:

    --the US would already have universal health care
    --the US would have gun legislation to help control the usage of firearms in crime
    --the US would have stronger foreign aid policies

    etc etc ... we are no idealist temperament in my books ...
    Ain't that the truth

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    What an unenlightened article, in general.
    He didnt talk about functions at all. Oh well, let the crazy old man believe he's part of a sociological organism with a personality.

    but I guess when you're that age, anthropomorphizing categories might be the best you can do.

    That being said,
    Had it been Fe-country, I would have jumped off a cliff long ago. Law mixed with social graces? Ew. ew. ew.

    "Neurotic, ha!"
    I let out a scornful laugh.
    "If neurotic is wanting two mutually exclusive things at one and the same time, then I'm neurotic as hell.
    I'll be flying back and forth between one mutually exclusive thing and another for the rest of my days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellotath View Post
    What an unenlightened article, in general.
    He didnt talk about functions at all. Oh well, let the crazy old man believe he's part of a sociological organism with a personality.

    but I guess when you're that age, anthropomorphizing categories might be the best you can do.

    That being said,
    Had it been Fe-country, I would have jumped off a cliff long ago. Law mixed with social graces? Ew. ew. ew.
    If one person in 50 knows the 16 types, one in 10,000 has heard of functions. Maybe.

    If I were going to explain what a car is to someone who isn't familiar with it, I wouldn't get into the inner workings of the internal combustion engine.

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    Just because you are aiming at spoonfeeding type theory to people, doesn't mean you're allowed to be intellectually sloppy, specially if you have a Ph.D.

    .. Unless you feel jungian typology is in dire need of pompom girls.

    "Neurotic, ha!"
    I let out a scornful laugh.
    "If neurotic is wanting two mutually exclusive things at one and the same time, then I'm neurotic as hell.
    I'll be flying back and forth between one mutually exclusive thing and another for the rest of my days.
    "

    — Sylvia Plath, The Bell Jar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellotath View Post
    Just because you are aiming at spoonfeeding type theory to people, doesn't mean you're allowed to be intellectually sloppy, specially if you have a Ph.D.

    .. Unless you feel jungian typology is in dire need of pompom girls.
    It's an interesting question. You have to simplify to explain things to people. I think it requires some level of intellectual sloppiness. This is the problem that a lot of technical people have. They can't explain things to an executive - they get mired in the details and precision of points they are trying to make.

    Why does it matter that a person has a Ph.D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourfriendjaneen View Post
    Obama is an ENFJ too, pretty cool .
    Fuck no. The US is ESTJ, and Obama is ENTJ.
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