Spock: ISTJ or INTJ? - Page 3

Usehername · 08-28-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennifer

But Spock is outwardly judging.

(Imagine any IxTP -- they look totally different, they are completely floating and laid back, while Spock is extremely structured, self-controlled, precise. It's very difficulty to make a case for Spock to be a P. His IxxJ reading is probably the most obvious thing about him.)

If Spock is outwardly judging (Te, most likely, despite his sometimes moralistic stance -- he is impersonal, not personal), then his inner world must be Ni or Si.

Then again, he's not human. Can we type him as a human?

Hey, don't sweat it, sis -- we 38-year-olds have to stick together!

I don't know anything about Spock, but I can tell you this:

I have a friend who grew up in the kid version of the military; crew cut every 2 weeks, total IxxJ (or so I thought). He gave off very NT vibed interests, and I could talk to him well, but I knew he wasn't an INTJ by just knowing. I assumed ISTJ.
He got tested: total 100% INTP. (He's hooked on MBTI too now.) Both his parents were xxxJ and so household + military = an INTP look like a IxxJ.

toonia · 08-29-2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennifer

If Spock is outwardly judging (Te, most likely, despite his sometimes moralistic stance -- he is impersonal, not personal), then his inner world must be Ni or Si.

Then again, he's not human. Can we type him as a human?

We sure as heck can try.

For all we know he may be the Vulcan version of an extrovert? Or, the totally laid back take it as it comes version? He did tolerate Kirk all those years. Not sure I could.

Yeah, the whole non-human bit is new territory for MBTI.

Uberfuhrer · 08-29-2007, 12:15 AM

Has everyone forgotten? Spock is half-human!

Wolf · 08-29-2007, 02:18 AM

Spock was rather inconsistently written as a generic super-intelligent thinker. He could literally be anything and mask it entirely. Part of the Vulcan training is to completely suppress emotions, which will severely skew how he appears on the outside.

Remember what happened to his father when the ability to maintain absolute control of his mind had gone?

I don't think he's an ISTJ.

MacGuffin · 08-29-2007, 02:18 PM

Probably ISTJ, with a highly developed N.

Recluse · 09-10-2007, 06:37 AM

The Spock of the television series was an ISTJ who changed into an INTJ in the movies. Similar to--though not as extreme as--the evolution of Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader.

Since Vulcans have much longer lifespans than Earthlings, it's conceivable that their thought processes could, as a natural part of Vulcan development, evolve from Sensorish during youth to Intuitive in middle adulthood.

And yes, I'm quite comfortable referring to myself and you other forumites, as "Earthlings."

Sinister Scribe · 10-12-2008, 03:54 AM

Spock is half-human, but he tries to repress that side of him... as with his emotions. He is very bent on the rules and regulations of things, which would lean more towards ISTJ. However, I'm not sure this would be entirely accurate for him. I'd almost suggest ISFJ with a strong suppression of his feelings based on his upbringing. *arches eyebrow slightly*

The Grey Badger · 10-12-2008, 03:56 AM

I have always seen Spock as INTJ.

Jack Flak · 10-12-2008, 05:18 AM

This are serious thread? I thought the consensus was INTP. Perceptive, objective, logical, calm, unneedy, etcetera, etcetera...

08-29-2007, 12:15 AM	#23 (permalink)
Uberfuhrer Full Circle Join Date: May 2007 Type: ENTP Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 8,534	Has everyone forgotten? Spock is half-human! __________________ "Place quotes in your signature to appear profound." --Uberfuhrer

08-29-2007, 02:18 AM	#24 (permalink)
Wolf only bites when provoked Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: HPLS Location: Plant Hardiness Zone 10 or 11 Posts: 2,181	Spock was rather inconsistently written as a generic super-intelligent thinker. He could literally be anything and mask it entirely. Part of the Vulcan training is to completely suppress emotions, which will severely skew how he appears on the outside. Remember what happened to his father when the ability to maintain absolute control of his mind had gone? I don't think he's an ISTJ. __________________ I 100%, N 88%, T 88%, J 75% Disclaimer: The above is my opinion and mine alone, it does not mean I cannot change my mind, nor does it guarantee that my comments are related to any deep-seated convictions. Take everything I say with a whole snowplow worth of salt and call me in the morning, if you can.

08-29-2007, 02:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
MacGuffin Administrator Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: xkcd Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 4,308	Probably ISTJ, with a highly developed N. __________________ Another PowerMad Admin & Ronin Attorney {Flickr photos LJ blog}

09-10-2007, 06:37 AM	#26 (permalink)
Recluse Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Type: INXP Location: in the shadows Posts: 217	The Spock of the television series was an ISTJ who changed into an INTJ in the movies. Similar to--though not as extreme as--the evolution of Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader. Since Vulcans have much longer lifespans than Earthlings, it's conceivable that their thought processes could, as a natural part of Vulcan development, evolve from Sensorish during youth to Intuitive in middle adulthood. And yes, I'm quite comfortable referring to myself and you other forumites, as "Earthlings." __________________ I didn't say that I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear.

10-12-2008, 03:54 AM	#27 (permalink)
Sinister Scribe Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Type: INTx Location: lurking right behind you with a vial of poison. Posts: 63	Spock is half-human, but he tries to repress that side of him... as with his emotions. He is very bent on the rules and regulations of things, which would lean more towards ISTJ. However, I'm not sure this would be entirely accurate for him. I'd almost suggest ISFJ with a strong suppression of his feelings based on his upbringing. arches eyebrow slightly __________________ "Science is the attempt to make the chaotic diversity of our sense-experience correspond to a logically uniform style of thought." -Einstein "Fools who wear their hearts proudly on their sleeves, who cannot control their emotions, who wallow in sad memories and allow themselves to be provoked this easily — weak people, in other words — they stand no chance!" -Snape Em. Female INTx and Proud of it. Left-handed Calligrapher. Writer. Scientist. Type Five Enneagram.

10-12-2008, 03:56 AM	#28 (permalink)
The Grey Badger Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Type: INTP Location: Albuquerque Posts: 98	I have always seen Spock as INTJ.

10-12-2008, 05:18 AM	#29 (permalink)
Jack Flak Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Type: INTP Location: The Everlasting Sky Posts: 9,359	This are serious thread? I thought the consensus was INTP. Perceptive, objective, logical, calm, unneedy, etcetera, etcetera...

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