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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Geessh. I don't even remember what Bizarro George [is that what you meant?] was like...!

    Or just the opposite of George?

    I don't see George as truly philosophical or imaginative, and his inclinations usually revolve around concrete plans and schemes and social prestige and false impressions (he's a "playah"). And he lacks so much foresight that his plans always fail.

    An INTP would be more apt to have carefully reasoned plans that would have both its strengths and weaknesses clearly calculated (George fails to see the holes in his plans)... and an INTP would be less apt to try to implement his plans.

    George also seems to operate within the social system, rather than apart from it. INTPs are very prone to complaining about society and how stupid its ideals are; George only complains because he is not being "given his fair shake" by society, and he strives to gain what society says is good. So he plays within the rules/mindset.
    The argument is that he is an INTP, but one in the grips of a very inferior type of Fe, anima posessed and this is what makes him so unhealthy. If he were a Fe dom, he'd be able to use Fe to his advantage rather than it being his demise.

    The whole show revolves around how unhealthy expressions of Fe can obsess people and make their lives a comedy show.

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    agree with Jerry as ISTJ. Elaine could seem kind of ESTP to me.

    I don't see George as having dominant or auxilliary Fe at all, undoubtedly he represses his feelings but can't control them. I'll go with ENTP. But open to the idea of her being ESTJ and him ESTP.
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    Guys, they're all intellectuals. Meaning no SJs allowed.

    Kramer, entp

    Jerry, ENTJ

    Elaine, ENFJ. She's not a T, she's an assertive, sexually liberated new york woman.

    George, a constantly stressed out and neurotic INTP. Shadow functions pop up. He's actually the most intelligent of all of them, but is constantly worried about sex so he can't do any significant work.

    Newman: INTJ. Main reason for the feud with seinfeld is a turf fight.

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    Jerry: ENTP 1w2 So/Sx

    Versatile pattern-seeker. Very manneerd and intelectual, but can fit well with the chaos around him and is immature. Is quite histronic and have the passion of pride. Removed from the real world and too much imagination for his own good.

    (Jerry Seinfeld is an ENFP 1w2 So/Sx)

    George: INTP 6w7 Sp/Sx

    Amoral. Abstract-minded. Shizotipal. Neurotic and coward. Afraid of success, auto-sabotage. Versatile and scattered. The guy who is obssesed with sex and is a specialist of water closets. Confort-seeker. He likes to talk, though, so he could be ENTP, but he does'nt really initiate contact and he's more shizotipal than antisocial, then he's more likely INTP than ENTP. Can have episodes of true courage at time. Also, fake courage as pathetic counterphobic behaviors. Realease an aura of selfishness.

    Kramer: ESTP 7w8 So/Sx

    The smooth and mad guy who is a proactive operator. Visibly afraid but fundamentally epicure (7), also is sociopathic, can be easily forceful and quite temperamental (w8). Like Jerry, he's So/Sx , fantastical, removed from the real world and has too much imagination for his own good. But he's clealy more action-oriented, implanted deeply in his body and less abstract than Jerry IMO, so, even if his madness can be confused with Ne and if he is antisocial, I think he's more ESTP rather than ENTP like so many assume. ESTPs can be antisocial too. Has a connection to 5: relaxed, independant, don't feel responsible to help people or to talk with anybody.

    Elaine: ESTJ 3w4 So/Sx

    Gifted supervisor. Very active Type A person. At time genuine and sensitive. Most part of the time is disconnected from her emotions and superficial. Very competitive and critical. Bossy, rigid and easily rude.Compulsive personality. Not sensitive. Oriented to presitge and relationships with her peers and take substitute values and feelings as her own. Has a sexual side, but not dominant or addictive. Very similar with the character of Monica from Friends (another ESTJ 3w4 So/Sx).


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    Larry David: INTP 6w5 So/Sx.

    George is a screen version of himself, same MBTI type and same enneatype but of a completley opposite variant.

    Overall, they are all Thinker: there's no place for genuine feeling or romantism (that's why it's a great show btw), everything pass through the head.
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    The real Jerry Seinfeld is possibly an ISTP or INTJ, but I think his character in the show, being the most grounded of the group, is written as an SJ.

    And overall, yeah, I see George as an overanalyzing, obsessive NT in his "dark escape." Specifically INTP.

    I see Kramer as an NF more than anything. Not too sure why anyone considers him a T; he's too insightful about people for me to classify him as anything but an NF.

    Elane is an impulsive SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    The real Jerry Seinfeld is possibly an ISTP or INTJ, but I think his character in the show, being the most grounded of the group, is written as an SJ.

    And overall, yeah, I see George as an overanalyzing, obsessive NT in his "dark escape." Specifically INTP.

    I see Kramer as an NF more than anything. Not too sure why anyone considers him a T; he's too insightful about people for me to classify him as anything but an NF.

    Elane is an impulsive SP.
    Lol.
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    Jerry: ESFP
    George: INTP
    Elaine : EXTJ
    Kramer: ENTP
    Newman: CRZY

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    What's all this stuff about George Costanza being an INTP? George is a schemer, but how does that make him an INTP? He is constantly over-analyzing, but that's because he is a schemer. His personality is more that of a gregarious salesman, his speciality is the sales pitch. But he doesn't understand those he is pitching to, whether it is a client or a prospective girlfriend. His skills are more apt for being someone's shill, but he sets his sights too high as his desires send him to the corporate mainstream where he is little more than a shoe-licking misfit.

    6w7 So/Sx and ESFP.
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    Almost all of this sounds like George:

    http://ocean-moonshine.net/e14285736...position=87:80
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    "This type can be very different from the other social type, because with this type, security comes from making alliances with individuals. Their weakness comes from their self-pres instinct being last, so they are not as independent as the self-pres/soc. They rely on key people in their lives when doubt sets in. Their security comes from maintaining close bonds. They fear rejection much more then the soc/self-pres. This softens the strong stances seen in the soc/self-pres, because the soc/sex doesn’t find its security in organizations and government. They go through life looking for the people they think will be able to direct them. On the down side, they can make individuals into their authority figures and rely too much on them. They are a lighter Six. They go with the flow more than the other subtypes. They are likely to use humor to charm people, but on the down side may whine and complain about their circumstances to garner support. When healthier, their charm, enthusiasm and curiosity are infectious. They are very loyal friends, although that can be said more or less about all reasonably healthy Sixes. But with the self-pres/soc and the soc/sex nothing much more then your support is required, for maintaining their friendship."
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    Quite possible that he's a J (come on, he's a neat freak! - but that could also be some baby Si thing or something). He's a T, hands down, and slightly more E than I. Still kinda hard to figure out. Maybe ENTP or ENFP.
    Elaine - either ESTJ or ENTJ, but probably the latter.
    Kramer: ESTP posterchild
    George: Probably INTP, but INFP / ISFP would also be possible
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