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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    What is with the reference quotes? Are you belittling my beliefs now?
    Aren't you belittling mine? I think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    Aren't you belittling mine? I think so.
    Interesting. When did it get personal for you? I'll need to know, in case I accidentally step on one of your very abundant toes in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    I am honestly shocked to see that so many TypoC members are so insensitive to what other people find precious.
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    I believe you can extend the moral justification of those laws to include defamation of something that is spiritually cherished by many.
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    You people are all far too sensitive about your freedom of speech.
    I suppose its somewhat personal in the sense that you are advocating a civil rights violation while demeaning principles which I cherish, but its more an effort to point out the irony in your statements. Why do you think its less serious for you to demean a basic principle of liberal democracy you apparently don't believe in than it is for me to draw attention to the fact that your belief in Mohammed is just that-your belief, and not something to be imposed on others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    Anything can be "right" or "wrong" as long as the two sides agree to it.
    Makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    If I was a radical atheist who gets offended when people attend church, would you be obligated to respect my sensibilities?
    Hmmm, How close are you standing next to me with your picket sign? : D

    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    Death threats and mob violence can hardly be characterized as "just want you to be respectful".
    I think it's beyond that, yes. Though it may have started out as a simple request. Are you familiar with the mob phenomenon from Sociology where people have reduced self-awareness in a crowd? The reduced self-awareness, or anonymity, can lead to uninhibited dangerous mob behavior. People will do crazy destructive things in a crowd that they wouldn't normally do. A few people can fire up an entire herd of sheeple that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    Why do you think its less serious for you to demean a basic principle of liberal democracy you apparently don't believe in than it is for me to draw attention to the fact that your belief in Mohammed is just that-your belief, and not something to be imposed on others?
    Oh behave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    @Victor: I don't understand where you get your passionate philosophies from. They seem radical in nature. There are extremists in every religion, in all walks of life. The good news is, they (radicals) are the minority. Why must you live in fear and spread the hate? Or am I misunderstanding you?
    I am mildly conservative like most Australians.

    My philosophy and the philosophy of Australians comes from the Scottish and English Enlightenment - in particular the philosophy of Utilitarianism. And the slogan of Utilitarianism is the greatest good for the greatest number.

    And we put Utilitarianism into effect using liberal democracy, which is based on the limitation of power.

    We describe ourselves as the lucky country. We are economically successful. And we are socially successful with a peaceful, multicultural society and we reject totalitarian philosophies and religions.

    And we expect your support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    And we expect your support.
    I respect where you're coming from. Your final thought was so cute I can't argue with you. Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    Do you think it's okay to offend hundreds of millions of people in the name of satire, just for the sake of doing so?
    I personally don't think so, and I was pretty mad during the abovementioned controversy. I believe it in inexcusable to mock something so many people find precious and sacred. It was also a pretty stupid move by the newspaper. They must have known that the cartoons would create a big reaction in the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    What is with the reference quotes? Are you belittling my beliefs now?
    Well, it's not difficult. Islam makes Christianity look reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    Well, it's not difficult. Islam makes Christianity look reasonable.
    What is it about the Islamic religion that makes Christianity seem more reasonable. Also, for it to seem such, difference must exist(which does); I am curious to which difference specifically makes Christianity seem more reasonable. Or are you referring to those that practice Islam, in which case, Islam should not make Christianity seem reasonable, but muslims should make Christians seem more reasonable. Otherwise, that's the equivalent of reaching a conclusion that math is bad, because a student is bad in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    I suppose its somewhat personal in the sense that you are advocating a civil rights violation while demeaning principles which I cherish, but its more an effort to point out the irony in your statements. Why do you think its less serious for you to demean a basic principle of liberal democracy you apparently don't believe in than it is for me to draw attention to the fact that your belief in Mohammed is just that-your belief, and not something to be imposed on others?
    It was not personal. You're just sensitive about your freedom of speech. See the difference? Now it got personal, whereas, it was to the open public before. Shh it's okay, I understand your confusion.

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