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    @.~*virinaĉo*~.@ Totenkindly's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    I read something interesting about the shadow functions last night. It was a line from Jung discussing how the limits of human freedom are conditioned upon the limits of self-acceptance. The shadow represents the part of our personality we don't trust, regard as inferior, and can't accept. The book I read it in was Radical Acceptance, Chapter 4ish.
    That sounds like it would be an interesting thread for someone to start.

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    Lenore Thomson goes into shadow functions a bit in her chapters about each type (book "Personality Type: An Owner's Manual"), and I read a book chiefly dedicated to the personas we portray when "gripped" by the shadow -- "Was That Really Me?" by Naomi Quenk. I'd love to hear Beebe's lectures that Eric B mentioned though.
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    Thank you for all of the great info. Really appreciate it! This is great!

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    shadow is imaginary, if not incorrect.
    ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    skip the functions and just read keirsey's books. the functions are just the model the system is based on and really dont tell you as much as the temperaments. imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    shadow is imaginary, if not incorrect.
    ignore it.
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    I have read so much about each of the four general types and the shadow sounded so intriguing...I agree`that the shadow is not nearly as important as the overall personality types.

    Still, I like the theory/concept behind the shadow processes. I think it explains a bit about why some people rub each other the wrong way, for example.

    From pure theory the ESTJ and I could do a lot of damage to each other when using Fe and Te in interactions bc these are both our primary and last or eighth process, only opposite of each other. This explains a vicious cycle that I previously found puzzling at work- interactions with an ESTJ that continually feel like we are pushing each others buttons in a very powerful and dangerous way (much more than with other types). This theory describes exactly what has been happening- her Te throws me into disarray, just as my Fe does to her- but usually I can handle Te if its not so dominant a function. I have experienced this same phenomenon with another ESTJ but couldn't figure out why it bothered me so much in these individuals and not in other types (whose Te is not used dominantly).

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    Wow! All functions clashing (Ni vs Si as well); though both Choleric socially (In Charge)! :footballreferee:
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    Exactly. Its a cat fight, really painful to watch.

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