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I'll write up something later (tomorrow or the next day) and post it here. I'll try to tie it in with ENFPs so that it won't represent a derailing of this ENFP thread.![]()
Okay, the project turned into something different. But here's what I came up with. I'm basically using the system at the "Personal Growth" section of PersonalityPage.com (link: Personal Growth ); that is I'm plagiarizing it and bastardizing it.
Basically, I've attempted to strip down and oversimplify the system at PersonalityPage.com to the point that it's a nice symmetrical system, and then I've fleshed it out a bit to emphasize some points of my own. I'm trying to work up the info at PersonalityPage.com into a more condensed version that I can play around with.
I wrote up the following notes mainly for my own use, so the material is going to be pretty condensed and sketchy. In some places it's fleshed out, and in some places it's just an outline. It could be fleshed out considerably more. But I thought I would post it in case anyone else is interested. (Forgive typos and all that; I didn't proofread it closely before posting it.)
Please note that the following is from the "Personal Growth" section of PersonalityPage.com and deals specifically with the problem of individuals who exhibit too much reliance on their Dominant function and need to moderate or balance themselves by developing their Auxiliary function. I see this viewpoint as useful because most people can use a little more maturity and balance in their lives; also, a state of imbalance in functions is the often the best way to see the functions in isolation and learn about them.
But if the reader feels that he or she has a good, mature, moderate Dominant/Auxiliary balance, then hopefully he or she won't be put off by these descriptions of unbalanced functions.
Introduction
PersonalityPage.com uses the system of MBTI functions or cognitive processes. If anyone isn't familiar with it, CognitiveProcesses.com breaks out the system in detail (link: Cracking the Personality Type Code) This message board also has some material on the same subject stickied in the MBTI, Enneagram, etc. Forum.
The 8 MBTI functions or cognitive processes are subdivided into two groups depending on how they process information and other stimuli. To put it simplistically, the Thinking and Feeling functions (Ti, Te, Fi, and Fe) are grouped together as the "judging functions." They tend to be critically-oriented and they set boundaries, organize information, and define things. By contrast, the Intuition and Sensing functions (Ni, Ne, Si, and Se) are grouped together as the "perceiving functions." They tend to be boundaryless and uncritical, and they gather information for purposes of comparing and/or setting up associations.
For purposes of these notes, I see F and T as operating roughly the same. That is, F and T are both engaged in defining, developing, and testing tools and instruments for use in measuring and influencing the world. F and T use different raw materials (F uses morals and values, while T uses logic, analysis, and scientific systems), but the tools are chosen, defined, and wielded in much the same manner. That is, morals and values tend to be understood and applied in a fairly objective, universal, and homogenous manner in the outer world, but an F may make fairly idiosyncratic choices of specific values depending on his self-definition. (One F may be pro-capital punishment while another is anti-). Similarly, logic and analysis tend to be viewed as objective phenomena. But there are many different logic and analysis tools available (legal logic, philosophical logic, scientific analysis, statistical analysis, etc.) and the individual T may make fairly idiosyncratic choices of specific analytical tools depending on his self-definition. (One T may prefer statistical analysis over everything, while another may analyze everything using a century-old philosophical system.
I also see N and S as operating roughly the same as each other: Both are involved in gathering data and associating or comparing. N tends to work more with abstract concepts and draw associations, whereas S tends to gather concrete facts and experiences and draw direct comparisons. But otherwise they operate roughly the same, much as F and T.
[Sidenote:] On a purely theoretical basis, I would argue that F and N are augmentative, while T and S are reductive. IOW going back to the F/T comparison, T tends to dissect and deconstruct as part of the analytical process, whereas F tends to weigh things in the context of frameworks (moral systems, emotions, art, etc.) Similarly, S breaks things down for comparison purposes, while N associates far-flung things and tries to weave them together.
Taking this idea to the extreme, the xSTx athlete would then be the most reductive type, practicing and analyzing a single movement (say a curve ball pitch) until he has it down perfectly and can deliver it on demand. The xNFx philosopher is the most augmentative, studying a raindrop and claiming to see in it an analog for the universe.[/Sidenote]
But again, for purposes of these notes, the main point is that F and T are considered to operate roughly the same as each other in their role as critically-oriented judging functions, and N and S are considered to operate roughly the same as each other in their role as data-collecting and -comparing perceiving functions.
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The Dominant function
One's interactions with the world are going to be processed primarily through one's Dominant function. If F and T are considered to operate the same and N and S are considered to operate the same, and if we look solely at dominant functions, it's possible to postulate four separate groups of personality types operating roughly the same within the group:
Group 1: Dominant Ti/Fi (ISTP, ISFP, INFP, and INTP), where the judging function (T/F) is dominant and is applied inwardly (introverted). These are the four most private and solipsist personality types. The judging function (Ti and Fi) organizes, defines, and sets boundaries. That occurs inwardly since the judging function is introverted; so the outward world tends to be pushed aside and attention is focused on processing information for the purpose of selecting and honing personal tools for judgment and measurement. Taken to the extreme, Group 1 can find itself forever fine-tuning its inner world and pushing away the outer world as a mere distraction.
Group 2: Dominant Se/Ne (ESTP, ESFP, ENFP, and ENTP), where the perceiving function (S/N) is dominant and is applied outwardly (extraverted). These are the four most public and reactive personality types. The perceiving function (Se and Ne) is boundaryless and undiscriminating, and it gathers information at random for purposes of comparing and/or setting up associations. That occurs outwardly since the perceiving function is extraverted; attention is focused on collecting stimuli and making comparisons or weaving them into patterns on the run; if the attention is bombarded with external stimuli, the inner world may be overwhelmed and disregarded. Taken to the extreme, Group 2 can find itself forever wallowing indiscriminately in the outer world and never noticing or using its internal judging functions to develop personal guidelines for sorting and discriminating.
Taking Groups 1 and 2 together, we have the 8 personality types that make up the MBTI's "Perceivers" (with a capital P). They are analogs for each other. Analyzed in terms of their combination of Dominant and Auxiliary functions, both groups have an extraverted perceiving function (Se/Ne) and an introverted judging function (Ti/Fi). If their Dominant and Auxiliary were in perfect balance, then the ISTP from Group 1 would operate the same as the ESTP from Group 2, the ISFP from Group 1 would operate the same as the ESFP from Group 2, and so on. But if all the individuals fall into the trap of relying solely on their Dominant and ignoring their Auxiliary, then they act as described above, IOW pretty much the opposite of each other.
Continuing on:
Group 3: Dominant Si/Ni (ISTJ, ISFJ, INFJ, and INTJ), where the perceiving function (S/N) is dominant and is applied inwardly (introverted). These four introverts interact with the world to discover or intuit systems. The perceiving function (Ni and Si) is boundaryless and undiscriminating, and it churns through information at random for purposes of comparing and/or setting up associations. That occurs inwardly since the perceiving function is introverted; so the outward world tends to be pushed aside and attention is focused on processing information for storage and pattern-building. Taken to the extreme, Group 3 can find itself forever wallowing indiscriminately in its inner reservoir and never notice or use its external judging functions to help develop personal guidelines for sorting and discriminating within the internal reservoir.
Group 4: Dominant Te/Fe (ESTJ, ESFJ, ENFJ, and ENTJ), where the perceiving function (T/F) is dominant and is applied outwardly (extraverted). These four introverts interact with the world to direct and influence. The judging function (Te and Fe) organizes, defines, and sets boundaries. That occurs outwardly since the judging function is extraverted; so the inward world tends to be pushed aside and attention is focused on processing information for the purpose of selecting and honing personal tools for influencing the world with precision and effectiveness. Taken to the extreme, Group 4 can find itself forever fine-tuning its external administrative and directive tools and neglect or not understand internal motivations (its own, or those of the people it is trying to direct).
Taking Groups 3 and 4 together, we have the 8 personality types that make up the MBTI's "Judgers" (with a capital J). They are analogs for each other. Analyzed in terms of their combination of Dominant and Auxiliary functions, both groups have an introverted perceiving function (Si/Ni) and an extraverted judging function (Te/Fe). If their Dominant and Auxiliary were in perfect balance, then the ISTJ from Group 3 would operate the same as the ESTJ from Group 4, and so on. But if all the individuals fall into the trap of relying solely on their Dominant and ignoring their Auxiliary, then they act as described above, IOW pretty much the opposite of each other.
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Dominant to the extreme
When individuals rely only on their Dominant function and neglect to develop their Auxiliary function, you get the situation described in the "Taken to the extreme..." passages for each group above. PersonalityPage.com describes how this works itself out for each personality type. I'll just add a few notes of my own.
Group 1: Dominant Ti/Fi (ISTP, ISFP, INFP, and INTP), where the judging function (T/F) is dominant and is applied inwardly (introverted). Taken to the extreme, Group 1 can find itself forever fine-tuning its inner world and pushing away the outer world as a mere distraction.
Being an introverted judging function in the Dominant position, Ti and Fi are always honing, testing, and vetting their tools. It's also a very introverted and inward-facing process, to the point where the Dominant Fi/Ti personality types may have little regard for the outside world. Focused intently on their introverted judging function, Dominant Fi/Ti personality types may end up ignoring and dismissing the external world. They can end up trapped inside their own head, oblivious to the world around them, and poor at personal interactions. The external world may seem insubstantial to them; it may seem a hindrance if it distracts them from their introverted judging work; or it may seem threatening and painful.
PersonalityPage.com spells out how this works out in the real world for each of the four Group 1 personality types. Generally these include: Getting stuck in a rut, inappropriate behavior, being out of touch, using experiences from the external world solely to support one's own prejudices, hypersensitivity to criticism, etc.
The relentless internal judging function (Fi and Ti) can pare down the internal world to the point that it is bare and stagnant. Sometimes the Dominant Fi/Ti personality types get so out of touch with the outside world that their judging functions become skewed and distorted. The Dominant Fi/Ti personality types spend a lot of time honing their tools; at some point ideally they need to re-establish contact with the outside world and test their tools against the real world in order to know for sure how effective they really are. The external world provides needed reality checks.
Group 2: Dominant Se/Ne (ESTP, ESFP, ENFP, and ENTP), where the perceiving function (S/N) is dominant and is applied outwardly (extraverted). Taken to the extreme, Group 2 can find itself forever wallowing indiscriminately in the outer world and never noticing or using its internal judging functions to develop personal guidelines for sorting and discriminating.
Being an extraverted perceiving function in the Dominant position, Se and Ne are boundaryless and focused on gathering experience and stimuli. Without a critical judging function to set limits, define guidelines, and define oneself and one's goals, dominant Se/Ne can turn into sensation-seeking behavior, mere reaction to the promptings and initiative of others, opportunism, and eventually stress from overstimulation.
Previously in the "ENFP Paradox" thread I described an extreme case of extreme ENFP behavior:
I have one female ENFP acquaintance who is constantly stressed-out, strung-out, exhausted, mostly a shut-in, subject to endless nervous complaints, can't stay focused on anything for more than a few minutes, gets freaked out by any change or unexpected factor in her day (hot weather, more traffic on the road than expected, bad news on the radio even when it doesn't affect her), can't go to a restaurant without changing tables five or six times because this one is too bright, that one is too dark, the other one is too loud, etc.
Obviously this is extreme behavior. And it seems to be sympathy-seeking behavior in that everyone is expected to put up with her whims and mood swings and changes in plans. But I blame it mostly on her undisciplined Ne. Her extraverted Intuition latches onto any and all stimuli coming at her and tries to weaves patterns of meaning. And her Ne is "undisciplined" in that it doesn't distinguish between small meaningless stimuli and more important meaningful communications or signs. For example if she is having a conversation with someone, she can get distracted and upset by a fly buzzing in the room or window curtains rustling; her hypersensitive Ne registers the minor stimuli of the fly or the curtain and it analyzes, sorts, and parses them to see if they connect in any way with the major stimuli of the conversation.
As a result, my acquaintance is constantly bombarded with nervous/mental stimuli and is permanently overexcited, exhausted, and strung out. The solution to her problem is provided at the Personalitypage.com website that I linked earlier. She needs to develop her Fi and use it as a filtering device. She could learn to recognize some stimuli as important and other stimuli as inconsequential and ignorable, thereby reducing the activity of her Intuition and the burden on her nervous system.
That is just one model for out-of-control Ne. Other types in Group 2 (and even other ENFPs) may exhibit completely different problems. PersonalityPage.com spells out how this works out in the real world for each of the four Group 2 personality types. Generally these include: Focusing on one's own enjoyment and obliviousness to the consequences or harm caused to others, simplistic approaches and rashness, lack of judgment, being easily distracted from goals and lack of commitment, opportunism/manipulation, etc.
Group 3: Dominant Si/Ni (ISTJ, ISFJ, INFJ, and INTJ), where the perceiving function (S/N) is dominant and is applied inwardly (introverted). Taken to the extreme, Group 3 can find itself forever wallowing indiscriminately in its inner reservoir and never notice or use its external judging functions to help develop personal guidelines for sorting and discriminating within the internal reservoir.
Being an introverted perceiving function in the Dominant position, Si and Ni are boundaryless and focused on processing experience and stimuli. Without a critical judging function to set limits, define guidelines, and define oneself and one's goals, dominant Si/Ni chews away at large quantities of random data, builds elaborate systems to incorporate the data, and disregards the outer world as unimportant or even a threat to the system. It requires much work to incorporate new data in the existing elaborate internal system, which can make the outside world (as a source of new data) seem stressful and threatening.
Previously in the "ENFP Paradox" thread I described a case of extreme INTJ behavior:
INTJs can use introverted intuition in a positive manner to cast wide analytical nets and efficiently process disparate ideas simultaneously; but the process of churning their way through their ever-expanding internal reservoir of ideas can occupy more and more of their attention and isolate them from the world around them.
PersonalityPage.com spells out how this works out in the real world for each of the four Group 3 personality types. Generally these include: Stress and avoidance reactions to the outside world, certainty about "correct" or "right" ways to do things, rigidity and inflexibility, strong negative judgments about others who do things differently, etc.
Group 4: Dominant Te/Fe (ESTJ, ESFJ, ENFJ, and ENTJ), where the perceiving function (T/F) is dominant and is applied outwardly (extraverted). Taken to the extreme, Group 4 can find itself forever fine-tuning its external administrative and directive tools and neglect or not understand internal motivations (its own or those of the people it is trying to direct).
Being an extraverted judging function in the Dominant position, Te and Fe select and hone personal tools for influencing the world with precision and effectiveness. This can be a relentless process to the point where "others" are viewed simply as a collection of pressure points and hot buttons and the Group 4 individual simply becomes a button-pusher. IOW, the process of administering and directing becomes automated and canned, the transaction makes both parties feel trapped and suffocated, and stimuli from the inward world (emotions, desires, personality) are ignored as unimportant or threatening because they derail the administrative/directive process.
PersonalityPage.com spells out how this works out in the real world for each of the four Group 4 personality types. Generally these include: Bullying, dismissiveness, controlling behavior, insistence on pragmatism and results, judging by appearances, ignorance of underlying needs and values, getting caught in a rut of endlessly mentoring others, etc.
(to be continued...)