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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Because it is a lot more complex than it looks. Often, obesity is caused by more than poor diet. And I'd hardly call it 'tolerated'. Obese people literally carry their problems on their body, for everyone to see. And other seem to think it is perfectly ok to use them as a scapegoat for just that reason. Moreso than say, smokers, heavy drinkers, or any of the other 'escape mechanisms' that are socially tolerated.
    Smoking and alcohol are more socially tolerated than fat people? Please tell me where you've seen public signs that say "No Fat People."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü™ View Post
    Smoking and alcohol are more socially tolerated than fat people? Please tell me where you've seen public signs that say "No Fat People."
    There's no need. It's written on peoples faces.

    Also, obesity isn't harmful to others. Smoking is - and that is the only reason that those signs are there. And why designated smoking areas exist.
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    As a skinny person (6'0", 145 lbs) I get a lot of "Oh my, are you sure you're eating enough?" and all that stuff. It's annoying as hell because my doctors have been singing praises about my health for years so I know there isn't anything wrong with me. I know I'm eating fine, I just have a very fast metabolism.

    My brother, on the other hand, is 6'4" and he weights 425 lbs. He's actually starting to suffer health problems (his neck and back primarily) and my family DOES have a history with diabetes so I'm waiting on all of that. He's recently started working out with me and he's cleaning up his diet...but only marginally. For the longest time he subsisted on a diet of pizza, chicken wings, and fast food joints and he has a mostly sedentary life style. I have no doubt that for a great many people, genetics is a big reason for why they've got some extra weight but in my brothers case...I feel that this is mostly self-inflicted. My dad has always been a big guy so I know that certainly plays a role but his life style isn't helping matters at all.

    Then you have cases like my ENFJ-ex, who DOES everything she's supposed to do. She goes to the gym 3-5 times a week, has greatly cleaned up her diet, keeps her insulin levels regular (she's type 1 diabetes)...and she's made a *lot* progress in her weight loss, but MAN is it a battle for her! She was like 250 pounds and now she's like 180 now or something like that. But her weight loss where she is now is soooooo blooooodddyyyyyyy slooooooooooooooow she gets really discouraged easily because she IS working hard but the results so small that it hurts.

    So..yeah, I try not to judge except in cases like my brother where I feel that's just self-inflicted. But in other cases...there are just so many variables so I feel like holding that against them is just unfair.
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    Because making fun of them isn't going to make them any thinner. I see where you're coming from though. I have friends who are obese *because* they don't take care for themselves, and it can be concerning.

    But tolerance and concern aren't mutually exclusive. Their weight is honestly none of my business, but if I do feel like taking a stroll around the lake, I take that opportunity to invite those particular friends to join me. And then we grab lunch from the raw vegan place nearby. Without fail, they rave about how good it felt to get some fresh air, exercise and tasty nutritious food.

    Other than that, their bodies, their business.
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    The skinny shaming has got to stop too though. Being 5'11 and 115 lbs I have strangers all up my size 2 ass about how I look anorexic.

    To the morons who do that ~ My lack of body mass does not come from the lack of knuckles on my fist, so get the f back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    This is a thing that is going through my mind for a quite time. Obesity is NOT a comsetic problem, or a beauty problem as a lot of people seem to see it this way. Obesity is a serious health problem and it's still tolerated like nothing happens. When you have an obese kid in the class your parents usually tell you not to make a fun of him, because you could hurt his feelings. But it's totally fine to tell a skinny person, he's skinny. Or it's fine to tell someone who is underweight "you look like anorexic" , but it's not okay to tell an obese kid he's obese...What's wrong?
    I never heard that it wasnt ok to tell an obese person they are "obese" its just not accepted to say something like "you fat fuck, get a treadmill or die in your own blubber"


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    Why would you the 500th obnoxious person to kick in an open door,

    'Did you know you are obese/skinny/have small boobs/huge thighs/...?'

    'No, really?! Thanks so much for feeling the need to explicitly comment on something that aint your business and Im living in evey day. I had no idea till you and the 500 other open door kickers decided to inform me about the state of MY body. Did you know btw that you were born with a huge birthmark on your cheek? Yeah, it is right there!'
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    Only if your name is Santa Claus. And then the term is "jolly".

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    Because most people are ugly anyways despite how fat/skinny they are?

    Besides getting condescending tips, and lectures over your weight is hardly what I would consider an ideal level of tolerance. Just shut the fuck up about it man. I don't care if I live til' I'm 50 and don't get laid. I got all the porn I need to satisfy me. I won't talk to any pretty person, and I'll flat out refuse to have sex with them because fat fetishists are beneath me. I know I'm an ugly motherfucker, I have no shame in being a fat bastard. Besides food is the only thing I find to be pleasurable outside of thinking about video games.

    What is intolerable is all this fat is beautiful bullshit. No it ain't it's ugliness. Ugly people need to not be harassed, but they also need to learn their FUCKING PLACE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PimpinMcBoltage View Post
    Ugly people need to not be harassed, but they also need to learn their FUCKING PLACE!
    Those ugly bastards! How dare they!! They should be in shackles, obeying their masters. After all, they're here to serve. Don't even think about voting. Get back to you seat at the back of the bus!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    This is a thing that is going through my mind for a quite time. Obesity is NOT a comsetic problem, or a beauty problem as a lot of people seem to see it this way. Obesity is a serious health problem and it's still tolerated like nothing happens. When you have an obese kid in the class your parents usually tell you not to make a fun of him, because you could hurt his feelings. But it's totally fine to tell a skinny person, he's skinny. Or it's fine to tell someone who is underweight "you look like anorexic" , but it's not okay to tell an obese kid he's obese...What's wrong?
    What you're describing is really just seemingly tolerance. Parents hush their kids to be so-called "politically correct". Being overweight and obese is still considered abnormal. Since being skinny and somewhat underweight is what the society idolizes, there is the perception that it is alright to criticize what is considered "normal" because criticizing the abnormal is somehow worse. Think about making fun of disabled people, etc. Obesity falls into the same category.

    In fact, there have been studies that stigmatization, bias, and discrimination against overweight people is just as bad as racial discrimination. While direct verbal attacks might be somewhat suppressed, what goes on underneath is much worse. It affects employment, education, health-care, you name it. The rates of such discrimination have also increased considerably these past decades.

    Here's one of the studies.

    For tl;dr people, here's a policy brief on the same issue.

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