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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    Or beat up your "kid's" bully and their parents.
    Or drive at night with no helmet and lights on.
    So are you being sarcastic or agreeable here?

    Characters are characters, and this is a gritty show where everyone is fucked up.
    It was the same way last season.

    I don't think it's endorsing people to go out and behave like these characters.
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    I think it was a piece of weird art, with a miniature naked lady floating in white liquid.

    I thought it might be another nod to David Lynch, like the shot early on of the Mulholland Drive street sign. In that movie at one point I think some characters become miniaturized or something. To me, it was a good sign that things are gonna get weird.
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    Hmm Mulholland drive kinda drama wouldn't be bad as long as there is a meaningful - or not so ambiguous - ending.

    Too far gone for that though.
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    Let’s start over with True Detective's confusing season 2 opener | Polygon

    Interesting analysis of episode 1 + opening theme, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    So are you being sarcastic or agreeable here?

    Characters are characters, and this is a gritty show where everyone is fucked up.
    It was the same way last season.

    I don't think it's endorsing people to go out and behave like these characters.
    I'm merely stating, and agreeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I think it was a piece of weird art, with a miniature naked lady floating in white liquid.

    I thought it might be another nod to David Lynch, like the shot early on of the Mulholland Drive street sign. In that movie at one point I think some characters become miniaturized or something. To me, it was a good sign that things are gonna get weird.
    Ok, so it was a living person and not just something simple.

    But why in that scene. Or was it only Ray Valcoro who saw it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    Ok, so it was a living person and not just something simple.

    But why in that scene. Or was it only Ray Valcoro who saw it?
    I think his partner saw it.

    Here's the very first impression we get, without a word: A large bowl of what look like milk sits in the middle of a glass coffee table. Inside, a Barbie doll-sized nude Asian model floats. "Hey," Velcoro says to Dixon. "You see that, too, right?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kas View Post
    I had a different approach. There is no reason why reckless, broken, drug addict can't be a very clever guy. I don't think that as the character he was very different before bad things happened to him, probably less of a pessimist, but that's all. And it added drama to the show, cause if he was simple-minded fool I would never cared so much about what was happening.
    i like the show....and i like the character.

    what i don't like is every time someone brings up existentialism in a conversation is they refer to the character and emphasize drugs.

    as an apotheosis of existentialism the character does not honor the tradition and weight and integrity of philosophical deep thought. it marginalizes it reduces its impact as a message in the big picture of things.
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    So the best answer I could get, and sadly I wished I could have figured it out on my own. I can't take credit for it. The milky bowl with the woman floating in it, is an illusion, and the symbolism behind it is... when they walked into the room, the scene might be an illusion of what really happened to the City Manager Ben Caspere's kidnapping and perhaps there are other motives.


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    I am enjoying the season thus far. All of the characters are interesting and great to watch.
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