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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Manifest View Post
    As popular as the horror genre is, it seem like a lot of people enjoy watching other people die in grotesque ways. Strangely, many of these same people can't bear to watch an animal suffer. I think they should make a movie about a serial animal killer, who breaks into peoples' homes and murders their helpless pets.
    Ha ha...yeah...I'd much rather watch a person suffer than a helpless animal...I'd just say no to the animal torture flicks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Well what's interesting to me, though, is that my ex - a man - mostly prefers serial killer and atmospheric ghost films too...he, like me, is not particularly frightened of aliens or zombies...of course, he's a horror collector, so he isn't particularly frightened by anything...but his bent in horror is very similar to mine, except it includes a leaning toward torture porn in some cases, but just as easily to the "beautiful" stuff like Susperia and Italian giallos. I secretly think he also believes in the devil...but that's another story all together...

    I think there's a sort of person who watches horror for the aesthetic, and those people are going to be very different from people who watch horror just to be entertained or frightened, despite what sub-genre of horror actually frightens them.
    I agree, there's a certain beauty in horror. I tend to shy away from having a huge collection of pure torture tales. Gets my mind running, lol. It might sound awkward but I like the 'pure' emotion in good horror films. They never cease to make me feel sheer agony as someone painfully, with all their exertions, tries to escape. This type of ultimate and untampered with emotion is quite the thing to behold. A horror movie can also include nearly any genre in itself, as well, leading it to be a quite diverse selection of movies, actors, and people behind the scenes.

    Alas, I don't like animal torture. That just seems...wrong to me. The only horror movie that I can recall that hard torture that I wasn't immediately turned off by is hard candy, but that's probably because the guy being tortured was a rapist.
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    Most horror flicks don't frighten me. I had a pretty unconventional family situation growing up, which ultimately left me being babysat by high school aged cousins. All we'd ever do was watch slasher movie after slasher movie. So now, when it comes to gore-fests, I'm pretty desensitized and can take seeing just about anything.

    That being said, the few horror movies that have actually scared me have stayed with me. For instance, Freaks and Nosferatu though I've seen them countless times scare me every time I do, without fail. Also, Eraserhead the first time I saw it creeped me out so badly I had to stop watching and then continue later on in segments. Those I anticipated would be scary, but one movie that surprised me was Donnie Darko. I'd half-heartedly watched it before with friends and had seen bits and pieces of it on my own, but when I finally decided to sit down and watch the whole movie all the way through, it scared the pants off of me! Was a good movie though.


    EDIT: Oh, and American Psycho made me a' scaredy, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serge View Post
    I agree, there's a certain beauty in horror.

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    It might sound awkward but I like the 'pure' emotion in good horror films. .. This type of ultimate and untampered with emotion is quite the thing to behold.
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    The only horror movie that I can recall that hard torture that I wasn't immediately turned off by is hard candy, but that's probably because the guy being tortured was a rapist.
    I'm a fan of vengeance. I like it when "bad" people suffer i.e. hard candy or sympathy for lady vengeance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Ha ha...yeah...I'd much rather watch a person suffer than a helpless animal...I'd just say no to the animal torture flicks...
    Quote Originally Posted by Serge View Post
    I agree, there's a certain beauty in horror.

    Alas, I don't like animal torture. That just seems...wrong to me.
    I can't fathom this contradiction. I guess that's why I don't enjoy most horror movies or violent action flicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Manifest View Post
    I can't fathom this contradiction. I guess that's why I don't enjoy most horror movies or violent action flicks.
    I find it odd as well, but I suppose the reasoning is that animals are innocents, but that a human victim must have had it coming to a certain extent. A variation on original sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I find it odd as well, but I suppose the reasoning is that animals are innocents, but that a human victim must have had it coming to a certain extent. A variation on original sin.
    I don't like anything that involves children being tortured or molested or drugged or abused either, so I don't necessarily believe in original sin.

    However, the fact that it only minimally bothers me to watch teenagers or adults suffer (hmm...with regards to what the person has done, of course, I don't "enjoy" watching innocent victims suffer which is why I don't subscribe to torture porn) tells you a lot about my view of people, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I find it odd as well, but I suppose the reasoning is that animals are innocents, but that a human victim must have had it coming to a certain extent. A variation on original sin.
    I could possibly see a religious person holding this view despite that Abrahamic religions regard human life more importantly than animals. I'm curious how atheists approach this subject, considering they view human beings as a highly evolved species of animal. Nonetheless, I think I'm derailing my own thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Manifest View Post
    I can't fathom this contradiction. I guess that's why I don't enjoy most horror movies or violent action flicks.
    I don't like 'real' torture in any extent. I find torture as displayed through movies as something that can get an emotion out of me (I view everything I watch through a t.v. screen or a monitor as fake generally) but even still, I guess it's just a line for me. I don't like watching the torture of generally defenseless animals, children, the elderly, and such. Nor do I particularly like the torture of the completely innocent/by standers. It's just a line I can't cross. And the beauty in horror movies, to me, is the pure emotion. I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Manifest View Post
    I could possibly see a religious person holding this view despite that Abrahamic religions regard human life more importantly than animals. I'm curious how atheists approach this subject, considering they view human beings as a highly evolved species of animal. Nonetheless, I think I'm derailing my own thread.
    Not to derail further, but I didn't mean any religious implication by the use of "original sin". Just pointing out that all humans have done dickish things while animals are normally seen as incapable of malice, thus making their suffering more of an injustice.
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