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Type Me: Round 3

awbro

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1) Context:
a) What is your age range and general location (Country so that cultural values can be taken into account)? Do you have any impairments that may affect the way that you answer this questionnaire? Any religious or political beliefs (or anything else along those lines) that also might have an effect?
I'm in my 20s and I live in the US. Some say I'm an Aspie, but I think I'm just controlling and hyper-sensitive in similar ways to people who have Aspergers.

b) Which types are you currently considering? Why are you considering them and why haven’t you decided on one?
INTJ, INFJ, ISFJ, ISTJ
Dom Ni: I have keen insight into situations and I read people pretty easily. I'm forgetful and love the joy of learning (to name a few qualities).
Dom Si: I am very keen on remembering and collecting facts if it's an area of interest, and I go all in to show my love for the subject. I get obsessed.

Those are both similar, but that's why you're here, isn't it? ;)

2) What do you deem as your purpose in life?
To change how the world communicates. I want to change how people look at languages and how they use them. I want to bridge cultural divides. I was made for such a purpose.

3) Of the seven deadly sins, which one(s) do you relate to the most and the least and why?
1. Gluttony. I love food. :(
2. Sloth. I'm anything but lazy.

4) Analyzing your relationships with others, briefly describe:
a) The type of people you are drawn to
I like nerdy people. For example, when I used to be really into k-pop, I chose the bands I liked on purpose because they had the most intelligent fans. They would come up with theories surrounding the music videos and work really hard at solving the puzzle that the music labels had left for them to complete. I joined in and put a lot of work in, too, and saw how everything came together--not just as an intellectual reward, but as a lovely family. Maybe that's not what the companies desired, but it's what I did, truly, and I'm happy to have participated.

b) The type of people who are drawn to you
Fun, bubbly people. Partiers. People who dance like nobody is watching.

c) The type of people you are repulsed by
The same people that are drawn to me, haha. I don't react well to people coming close and hugging me, or getting super emotionally close upon the first encounter. A lot of people claim to know just how to be warm and sweet, but often they're awkward and completely ignore social codes. It's not the breaking of an established norm that bothers me. It's the breaking of my own code that drives me up the wall.

5)What are the traits in others that you admire but you cannot emulate yourself? Elaborate.
I admire people who are organized to the T and who are emotionally open and have their anger on lock. I often explode, even though I've been working to manage it quite hard. I love people who are creative and work tirelessly to get their product out into the market without being afraid of it sucking. They just go, with no fear. It's fabulous.

6) Describe your relationship with the following:
a) Anger
I'm not a naturally angry person, but rather one who has a deep well of emotions that once touched, explode(s). I get angry about all sorts of things, but mostly about unfairness and injustice, and cruelty especially. Put all three together and I pop off. I'm not a pretty person to see angry.
b) Shame
I feel shame a lot when I've not done my best work or when my life isn't going the speed at which I have planned it to go. When things get in beauracratic tangles, I lose my marbles.
c) Fear
I fear dying without having completed my goals or helping my family. Fear can really possess me because my moral code says I must help my family at all costs. I don't expect most people to be as loyal as I am, but I would die for my immediate family--some members hate me, but even so, because my love for them is so strong, I would do it. I always keep fighting.
d) Love/passion
When I fall in love, I fall in love deeply. Obsessively. Passionately. Break my heart, and you've broken me. I'll try not to show it, but I'll be so busted up I won't know up from down nor right from wrong. I'll be just... gone.
e) Conflict
Normally I jump at conflict to nip it in the bud, but over the years I've become calmer to the point I'm told I'm quite professional and tactful, especially through electronic communication. I get mistaken for a timid, girl-next-door type the first few times people talk to me, because I try the Elsa approach of "conceal, don't feel, don't let it show." But ultimately, my passion spills out--whether it's love or ire.

7) What are some of the themes that have played a prominent role in your life (ie. a struggle you’ve been unable to conquer, ect)?
Not being able to control my emotions
Not being able to show my creativity how I want
Being the weird one, unable to voice my thoughts

8) Answer only one of the following:
a) [College aged and above] What is your area of work/study? Why did you choose this and would you change it? If so, what would be your ideal?
Before I had chosen psychology and teaching, but now I'm working on mental health law and machine learning. I've chosen the latter because the former wasn't a fit. It drove me crazy. I couldn't pass classes because it didn't fit me. Now, though, I'm planning on being a multilingual lawyer that works in the mental health care system, defending under-privileged clients. I like this because it combines my passion and talents with an area I care about and one that is useful in my country today.

9) When meeting a new person, what do you tend to focus on?
How they speak, I think; also what they're dressed like. I focus on the psychology of their words and how their clothes reflect their persona.

10) How do you feel about humanity as a whole? What do you feel are some of the biggest problems the human race faces and why?
I love humanity. The biggest problem is narcissism.

11) What are some of your hobbies and interests?
Learning languages, writing, reading (books... everything... often in other languages), playing instruments, occasional sports playing, learning in a holistic way

13) How do you usually “hang out” with your friend(s)? When answering, think about what activities you tend to choose, whether you hang out with one person at once or many, whether or not you initiate the interaction.
Watching movies, talking, going for walks, getting coffee, chatting about theory

14) What is more important, actions or words? Why?
I would say both are equally important in the end. But for me, actions are. My mom can be a bit abusive in the way she assumes that I need caring for at my age just because she thinks I'm stupid, and her actions follow that line of logic. Her words follow suit. Both are deadly. But it's the way she takes away my freedom of choice by her own choice that kills me inside.

15) Oh dear, you’ve been cursed by a witch! It’s ok though, you get a choice on which curse you will receive. Will you choose….
c) To lose your memories
Elaborate on why!
Losing my memories is fine, because I've invented a system for remembering stuff. And there's a lot of stuff I'd rather not remember. I'm an embarrassing person.

16) What do you hope to avoid being? If it helps, describe a person who embodies what you avoid/you as a villain, ect.
My mother. She's at times really sweet, but most of the time just plain mean. She refuses to acknowledge her broken self and hurtful past, thus taking it out on me and the immediate family. I will not be like her.

17) How do you relate to obsession? Do you tend to "merge" with others or your interests? How do you feel about the idea of doing this?
I love languages and MBTI so much that I can sit on the computer for hours and not notice time's gone by. I say, "hell yeah."

18) Organized or messy? Plans and blueprints or impulse and surprises? What are you preferences and tendencies?
Organized. Plans.

19) How do you subjectively view comfort and how do you create comfort in your life and surroundings?
I think comfort isn't necessarily necessary if you're learning something new. I've been taught that's not what most people think, so I don't value it as much as I might usually. But it's still a core value. Creating comfort for me is learning. I love to learn. Give me a documentary on something related to my interests or shit, even a random weird-ass thing and I'll watch the hell out of that clip. I'll remember it for you a year later in a random conversation and expect to have an in-depth discussion on it at the time. Yeah, man.
 

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I haven't read and I will read later, but this time I have more knowledge than the last.

Some questions:
1 - Do you have any big 5 tests with facets?
2 - What about enneagram, already tried? Which ones you see yourself the most?
3 - Do you have Dario Nardi/Keys2cognition test results from multiple months?

I prefer to read after these questions are answered.
 

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1 - Do you have any big 5 tests with facets?
I'm not sure what "facets" means here... descriptions [edit: I now see you meant "results"], perhaps? I took a Big 5 just for you right now. Back in like October, I took one and got results that correlated to ENTP according to the MBTI group I was part of.
The test I just took now is:
O: 100%
C: 67%
E: 46%
A: 79%
N: 52%

2 - What about enneagram, already tried? Which ones you see yourself the most?
3w4, I think. I'm not sure about the others. 369? Sounds about right.

3 - Do you have Dario Nardi/Keys2cognition test results from multiple months?
I have the results from previous threads we've chatted in, and I took that Russian one and got INTP.

What say you?
[MENTION=32874]Vendrah[/MENTION]
 

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1 - Do you have any big 5 tests with facets?
I'm not sure what "facets" means here... descriptions [edit: I now see you meant "results"], perhaps? I took a Big 5 just for you right now. Back in like October, I took one and got results that correlated to ENTP according to the MBTI group I was part of.
The test I just took now is:
O: 100%
C: 67%
E: 46%
A: 79%
N: 52%

2 - What about enneagram, already tried? Which ones you see yourself the most?
3w4, I think. I'm not sure about the others. 369? Sounds about right.

3 - Do you have Dario Nardi/Keys2cognition test results from multiple months?
I have the results from previous threads we've chatted in, and I took that Russian one and got INTP.

What say you?
[MENTION=32874]Vendrah[/MENTION]

Facets are sub-scales inside the main scales... Like extraversion has excitement-seeking as a facet.
The shortest one with facet is this one:
Personality Assessor | IPIP-120 Personality Test

It would be helpful if you separated the old k2g test ones and PM me... Do you remember if you have 3 of them? I would need 3 of them at least lol, 3 or 1, 2 or none isnt useful. Also, I suggest you answer (mark in bold) these:

1 - "You have a very good sense of direction and instantly know your path around a place."
Much Agree
Agree
Neutral
Disagree
Much Disagree

2 - Pick one:
a) "I enjoy receveing rewards!"
b) "I enjoy learning through interactions"
c) "I enjoy removing mental barriers"
d) "I enjoy avoiding situations that involves punishment"

3) Pick one again:
"I have to show affection for people"
"I like activities that has potential to be recognized by others"
"I like activities that put me in charge"
"I like to keep my life exciting"
"I like to investigate stuff few people are interested in"
"I usually approach my life with caution"
"I have an important internal peace and I avoid confrotations"

4 - "Lets talk about your communication style! You like to talk about…"
"I prefer to talk in a more impersonal way, about accepted facts and current/possible experiences."
"I prefer to talk about my feelings and/or my thoughts and/or my dreams and/or my past experiences."
 

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Based on [MENTION=40133]Cupcakemonster[/MENTION]'s cute shorts, I decided to make a video of myself for anyone who wants to practice typing. Opinions are surely welcome!

Thank you! <3
 
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Based on [MENTION=40133]Cupcakemonster[/MENTION]'s cute shorts, I decided to make a video of myself for anyone who wants to practice typing. Opinions are surely welcome!

Thank you! <3

Your voice seems to have a Fi versus Te dynamic to it. My guess then is ENFP or ESFP. I don't see ISTJ or INTJ as likely.

Though you're only considering IxxJ types at the moment? Then perhaps ISTJ or INTJ are worth considering, but I thought ExFP.
 

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[MENTION=29921]awbro[/MENTION] I watched your video & read through your questionnaire answers. I'll probably ponder & analyze some things for you some more & come up with some questions for you myself to help type you. love that you brought up your theory about covid. I have so many thoughts on that myself, & definitely agree with what you said about China. I think it's really cool that I inspired you btw. I think videos are just so much more fun & interactive.
 

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Your voice seems to have a Fi versus Te dynamic to it. My guess then is ENFP or ESFP. I don't see ISTJ or INTJ as likely.

Though you're only considering IxxJ types at the moment? Then perhaps ISTJ or INTJ are worth considering, but I thought ExFP.

I'm considering anything at this point.

I have ISFJ or ESFP as the most likely types for myself. They're mirrors of each other, so maybe that's why I'm confused.

Thank you for taking the time to watch it!
[MENTION=40133]Cupcakemonster[/MENTION]: Thank you for helping out! I appreciate it. :hug:
 

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Im not that good at understanding videos or using videos to type.

So, based on Big 5 results, enneagram 3 for the moment perhaps? And the questions you answered me on a PM.
And I did have a look at the past too (past cognitive functions result and past thread).

First thing... You are not self-reporting yourself with completely accuracy. Although a new cognitive function result is missing, I could detect differences from Big 5 results and what you wrote. That Si can be boosted with languages, I think? Well, this pretty much clouds a lot on these data analysis and make things harder.

Second thing... I do believe you were on shadow mode last year for many reasons. And perhaps in transit for out of the shadow this year? Because this year you dont have any of the two signs of shadow on Big 5 I could find so far (neurosis and heavy apathy). And from last year there is your weird relation with Fi on the tests: Score high on nardi and relatively low on typologycentral (and the difference was in days). In big 5, the Fi signs are usually erased by neurotic states, so, yeah, its supposed to be a confusing Fi.

From my E/I questions, you answered 3 E and 1 I. I think your natural tendency should be slightly for Extroversion, given that you are slowly getting more extraverted, was highly introverted in a trouble past, and Big 5 and how you answer my E/I questions.

From N/S, things can be confusing and I cant say much. There seems to be a repressed Ne, not sure. N/S seems to me to be a natural borderline to you, but that would not match Big 5 results. I would guess intuitive, not much sure.

From T/F, well, this is the complicated part. I cant really have an answer here, due to confusing Fi. There is some Ti presence on the text and on the old one as well, and there is low Fe. Low Fe can indicate that you passed through rejection at some moment but it isnt enough to deduce that you were a ENFP case of rejection. This Ti could be a replacement or not. I dont know.

From J/P perspective, well, J/P is suspected by me to be the most vulnerable to Neuroticism and stuff dimension.
It seems that your J is dropping and turning into P, from the test results, text, etc.. So, basically, because of the movement I think you are a P type.

Which gives me EXXP type (and IXXJ was just a effect of the shadow).
There is was too much Si for ENFP and ENTP, although there is enough Openness to Experience for ENFP (and thats likely a self-report inaccurateness because there is a little inconsistency here) but you could be mistaken your motivations to learn foreign languages for Si? Well, I made that kind of mistake before, but from some research somewhere INTP show up as the type most interested in foreign languages in average instead.

I actually revised your case in the ending of the year and thought that you were ENFP on shadow, but later I just collected stuff that makes me say that it is very likely that N/S is immune to the shadow (yeah, Im following a complete different guide-line than from the past). [MENTION=22833]Legion[/MENTION] answered you as ENFP on the last topic, I think, ENFP at shadow.

Borderlines are common, so, perhaps EnfP (with N/S and T/F borderline) could be a possible answer. or EntP or EstP or EsfP. Im not done here or giving up like I did on the last thread, I prefer to wait a few days to see more information and more opinion of others. For now, I stick with EXXP that were on shadow last year and score IXXJ because of that.
 

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Borderlines are common, so, perhaps EnfP (with N/S and T/F borderline) could be a possible answer. or EntP or EstP or EsfP. Im not done here or giving up like I did on the last thread, I prefer to wait a few days to see more information and more opinion of others. For now, I stick with EXXP that were on shadow last year and score IXXJ because of that.
This is all very interesting.

14 year-old me was way different from the me in my 20s. I discovered psychology and really tried to change myself.

I have low Si, I think, because I'm always looking stuff up. I even have a document to remember all my passwords. When it comes to foreign languages, I'm constantly looking up the same words over and over unless I focus. I'm a better writer than I am a speaker, and I enjoy language a lot. I love to write poetry and stories. I love all types of languages, and am advanced in Spanish. If I blow my money on anything and feel regret later (because I was taught to value cash), it's due to language material. But I don't feel too much regret, because I'm learning.

I think my immediate family are all intuitives and I might be the only sensor, which is why I get treated like crap; but that's also why I've learned their behavior more than an average sensor would.

My dad I think is an ENTJ, my mom INTJ, and my sister an INFJ. I might be the lone ESFP.

I remember my childhood (young, young childhood) self being very much like a quintessential EXXP, always running around and rolling in the grass and getting dirty. But as I grew older, I grew more shy and I started to blend in with everybody. My mom was constantly telling me I had to grow up and be like the other kids; so turn into a member of the masses, I definitely did. I thought everyone was this way, because that's how my mom raised me. If it seems like I have a lot of Ti, it's probably because I've developed myself in such a way so that I sound more eloquent and can express myself with words better since I love creating art. I don't like raw expression anymore unless I need a dose of inspiration. I also was exposed to reading and writing at a fairly early age and was advanced in those skills throughout grade school, according to my recollection.

I am told I scored very high on an IQ test as a youngin', but I can't remember being remarkable as a child. I was simply average.

It was only when I reached my teens that I realized that I was kind of stuck up about some abilities and worse in others, so I tried my best to become humble, eloquent, and well-educated for my own sole benefit.

Thank you for taking the time to type me, Vendrah. Ten years ago I wouldn't have thanked you, because I would've just assumed it was understood, but now I understand it's common courtesy to thank people for their deeds. So, that's what I do.
 

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The above post has a lot of Si in it. The post where you answered a questionnaire seemed to have a lot of Ne.

So I'm going with ENFP, same as what I had for you last year or whenever it was.
 

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The above post has a lot of Si in it. The post where you answered a questionnaire seemed to have a lot of Ne.

So I'm going with ENFP, same as what I had for you last year or whenever it was.
What exactly was Ne over Se, or even as opposed to ISFJ?

Since we're narrowed down to IXXJ and EXXP.

I'm trying to learn from you, too, here.
 

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What exactly was Ne over Se, or even as opposed to ISFJ?

Since we're narrowed down to IXXJ and EXXP.

I'm trying to learn from you, too, here.

Well, there was both Ne and Si, I can't say for sure that the Ne was above the Si.

I'm not supposing ISFJ because of the Fi+Te vocal read.

I'm not seeing ISTJ as likely.

I can try to show you what I mean by Ne and Si, but I can't explain at this point why the Ne would be higher.
 

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I can try to show you what I mean by Ne and Si, but I can't explain at this point why the Ne would be higher.
Sure. If you'd like to do that, I'd certainly welcome it!

I'm certainly a weird one, then. ENFP, huh? If that's the truth, I really am the black sheep, because the rest of my family has Ni. Lucky ducks.
 

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"To change how the world communicates. I want to change how people look at languages and how they use them. I want to bridge cultural divides. I was made for such a purpose."

" They would come up with theories surrounding the music videos and work really hard at solving the puzzle that the music labels had left for them to complete."

" unfairness and injustice, and cruelty especially. Put all three together and I pop off."

"The same people that are drawn to me, haha. I don't react well to people coming close and hugging me, or getting super emotionally close upon the first encounter. A lot of people claim to know just how to be warm and sweet, but often they're awkward and completely ignore social codes. It's not the breaking of an established norm that bothers me. It's the breaking of my own code that drives me up the wall."

These are some examples where I can see the Ne. You're talking about the external world in a hypothetical and/or abstracted or generalised way.

It's based on your experience, sure, but the way you phrase it it's like... there's this generalised version of how events play out, that you've abstracted. So you can look at how changes would come about through that system of abstractions.

The Si in the post I mentioned was to do with the way that you either specifically mention autobiographical information, or you say "this is how it always was" or similar.

Ne+Si tend to speak in generalisations, Ni+Se tend to mention specific things, but that specific might be a concept that you have to grasp rather than see.
 

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These are some examples where I can see the Ne. You're talking about the external world in a hypothetical and/or abstracted or generalised way.

It's based on your experience, sure, but the way you phrase it it's like... there's this generalised version of how events play out, that you've abstracted. So you can look at how changes would come about through that system of abstractions.

The Si in the post I mentioned was to do with the way that you either specifically mention autobiographical information, or you say "this is how it always was" or similar.

Ne+Si tend to speak in generalisations, Ni+Se tend to mention specific things, but that specific might be a concept that you have to grasp rather than see.
Cool! I've never considered myself abstract by any means. Thanks for the input Sir/M'am! I highly appreciate and value your input and always have. If you ever happen to have any more insight, please don't hesitate to divulge your wonderfulness. :hug:
 

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Cool! I've never considered myself abstract by any means. Thanks for the input Sir/M'am! I highly appreciate and value your input and always have. If you ever happen to have any more insight, please don't hesitate to divulge your wonderfulness. :hug:

You have this odd way of speaking where you can sound sincere and sarcastic at the same time.
 

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You have this odd way of speaking where you can sound sincere and sarcastic at the same time.
I'm being perfectly sincere here lmao.

I meant what I said with all my heart <3

It's probably me trying to control my speech and make sure I sound professional. I don't know, though :shrug:
 
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