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[MBTI General] Summarising my Understanding of Jung and MBTI.

Koto

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MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Emphasis on 'my understanding'; this is how I like to approach things rather than a lesson in which way to go about things.

1) The dichotomies reign superior to the '8 functions', both in simplicity and validity.

2) There are only four functions: Intuition, Sensation, Thinking, and Feeling, both in the official MBTI and in Jungian typology. Ni, Fe, etc, all refer to functions with either a extraverted or introverted attitude; they are not functions in of themselves.

3) The IEIE/EIEI stacking proposed by Harold Grant is wack and flies in the face of both MBTI and Jung. MBTI officially uses IEEE/EIII, which I consider valid but still not the most accurate representation of what Jung was going for; that would be IIEE/EEII, or IxEE/ExII.

4) The P/J dichotomy should be treated separately from the functions. The whole 'which function you extravert' thing that Myers came up with makes little sense to me; I instead see it as each type having two subtypes depending on which of their functional preferences is strongest. I myself am an INTP dichotomy-wise, but I lead with intuition, then thinking, making me an INTP NiT as opposed to an INTP TiN.

5) I have a suspicious feeling that the majority of IP types are going to relate to leading with a perceiving function (y'know, it's in the name after all), and that the IJ types are going to relate to leading with a judging function. Therefore, I assume there are more INTP NiTs than TiNs, and more INTJ TiNs than NiTs as an example, though I think both are valid.

6) Speaking of the names, INTP (as an example) is both IN and IT, introverted intuitive and introverted thinker, which I think is a neat tie-in to the idea of IIEE and subtypes that I like to roll with. This perspective is also why I think that people struggle so much with the P/J dichotomy. Using the Grantian method, INTPs and INTJs share nothing in common. However, I think you'll find that a lot of INTxs find both types very relatable; maybe they shouldn't be treated as not understanding Ni or Te or whatever well enough and instead the system itself should be questioned. I think that someone that shares three preferences in common with someone else is obviously going to be fairly similar to them in a lot of ways, and considering that the P/J dichotomy is the least well-defined out of the four as a stand-alone dichotomy, maybe a more flexible approach is required than the currently most popular one.

Those are the main points that I can think of atm, consider this as my real 'welcome to the forums' post.
 
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