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Robin Hood morality test

Litvyak

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We can endlessly polemize on "right" and "wrong" - I personally think selecting some options as "wrong" involuntarily classifies others as being "right" in comparison to the "wrong" answers. That's not the point though.

Look at these classifications:

- "You have a confused, immature sense of values. You are erratic and stubborn."
- "If you really believe this is the right order, you baffle us completely."
- "Your mind is in chains and it's time you did something to free it."

What the feck, really? Seems the "psychologists" of the site forgot to take their weekly dose of Vicodin.

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ETA: My choice was Little John > The Sheriff > Maid Marion > Robin Hood, not sure how they concluded that I'm "uncertain of women"... perhaps I simply don't like and / or understand this test.
 

Thalassa

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Mine was Little John, Marion, Robin Hood, and the Sheriff

My interpretation was:

You are fairly broadminded romantic and reasonably contented. You value kindness greatly and try to live by your ideals. You do not conceal from yourself, or from others, your strong need for security, which may be either emotional or material.

Women: Your experiences of men have not all been happy, perhaps because you hope for a little too much?


I chose Little John first because he didn't do anything wrong. Period. Plus, he took up for Marion after Robin acted like an ass.

I chose Marion second because although adultery is immoral, she did it for a higher purpose of saving her loved ones.

I chose Robin third because even though I think he acted like a totally irrational asshole, I guess his jealousy is understandable given the situation, and he isn't as bad as the Sheriff.

The Sheriff is the worst because he took advantage of a married woman in exchange for releasing prisoners. Obviously he has no real sense of morality or justice, because if he truly thought Robin and Little John should be imprisoned for good reason he wouldn't let anyone talk him out of it. He would stand by his principles. And even if he didn't stand by his principles, it's just dirty to ask a woman to prostitute herself to save her friends. Just....ew.
 

Amargith

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My results:

We would expect you to be a happy, well-balanced person who likes people and is liked by others. You question whether many conventional views on morality are valid under all circumstances.

Women: You will expect high standards from the men to whom you give your love.
 

BerberElla

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My results:


Same as:

We would expect you to be a happy, well-balanced person who likes people and is liked by others. You question whether many conventional views on morality are valid under all circumstances.

Women: You will expect high standards from the men to whom you give your love.

:yes:
 

nomadic

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I would never go off with Little John. I would pine after Robin good and hard, for a while, then realize he's a complete idiot and move along swiftly.

seriously

i think if i was robin hood, i'd be like "thanks marion", then i'd just kill the sheriff, run away to someplace to hide from the po pos, and come back after a year to see if maid marion was waiting for me, or if she was sleeping with another dood by then.

lil john would probably be tryna bang her the entire year too. what a guy.
 

Yosako

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BEST
- Little John
- Robin Hood
- The Sheriff
- Maid Marion
WORST

You are not easy to assess. Basically you are ruled by an inferiority complex and feelings of insecurity. How do you present yourself to the world? An idealist, a moralist, a conformist keeping up with the Joneses?

Men: Your conflicting views on sex and morality may lead to every sort of sexual problem. You have always feared women, probably starting with your mother.

Reasoning:
- Little John defended Marion from what he considered overreactive/egoistical behavior from Robin. He was just being considerate with her.

- Robin considered Marion a slut for accepting sleeping with the Sheriff, and in my opinion he is right. She didn't even try other options!

- The Sheriff...well, he was playing the bad boy role and got away with it.

- Marion was a weak, submissive woman. After the Sheriff suggested her to sleep with him as a payment for their freedom, if she was a "real" woman then she'd have kicked his balls so hard that he'd end up screwed for quite a long time. Anybody with me in this one?
 

valentine

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Robin, John, Marion, Sheriff.

You are a moralist with conventional ideas, which some people would call old-fashioned.

Men: You probably consider yourself a fair-minded man in a world which falls badly below your standards. Your inhibitions and sense of guilt are in the way of your happiness.
 

Soar337

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My answer was Little John, Maid Marion, Robin Hood and the Sherrif


You are fairly broadminded romantic and reasonably contented. You value kindness greatly and try to live by your ideals. You do not conceal from yourself, or from others, your strong need for security, which may be either emotional or material.

Women: Your experiences of men have not all been happy, perhaps because you hope for a little too much?
 

Thalassa

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- Little John
- Robin Hood
- The Sheriff
- Maid Marion
WORST



Reasoning:
- Little John defended Marion from what he considered overreactive/egoistical behavior from Robin. He was just being considerate with her.

- Robin considered Marion a slut for accepting sleeping with the Sheriff, and in my opinion he is right. She didn't even try other options!

- The Sheriff...well, he was playing the bad boy role and got away with it.

- Marion was a weak, submissive woman. After the Sheriff suggested her to sleep with him as a payment for their freedom, if she was a "real" woman then she'd have kicked his balls so hard that he'd end up screwed for quite a long time. Anybody with me in this one?

I really don't get the mentality that the Sheriff did anything more moral than what Marion did. He was a slut, too. Not only was he a slut, but he was abusing a position of power. Marion's motives were more moral than the Sheriffs. Her sin was for others, and the Sheriffs was merely for selfish personal gain.
 

paperoceans

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Marion, Little John, Robin Hood, The Sheriff

Interpretation

We would expect you to be a happy, well-balanced person who likes people and is liked by others. You question whether many conventional views on morality are valid under all circumstances.

Women: You will expect high standards from the men to whom you give your love.
 

Liminality

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Such an emphatic rejection of ready-made values is probably partly camouflage. You hate to be thought weak or insecure. You value honesty, and abhor hypocrisy.

Women: You are tolerant about men and their failings - but we mean men, for you have no time for boys on men's errands.


Maid Marion - The sheriff - Little John - Robin hood

Reasoning:

Maid marrion just sacrafised her purity and prostituted herself for her friends.

The sheriff (he seem an honest representation of a man in his shoes) was as good as his word, LJ and RH could have been bad criminals, also it's the sherif's job to put out laws behind bars.

Little John is suspiciousley non eventful; vague, on one hand he doesn't cause any harm to Marion, on the other he abandons loyalty to Robin, his friend and comrade by just...leaving, quite happily with a brave, intelligent, attractive (sexualy desirable enough tobe used as get out of jail), sexually active young woman >_>

Robin stinks of something not quite right here, that's the sort of line a misogynistic serial killer uses.
 

Yosako

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I really don't get the mentality that the Sheriff did anything more moral than what Marion did. He was a slut, too. Not only was he a slut, but he was abusing a position of power. Marion's motives were more moral than the Sheriffs. Her sin was for others, and the Sheriffs was merely for selfish personal gain.

The criteria I used there was that by "tempting" Marion, his actions, despite selfish, served to put her integrity to test...and she accepted without even trying to turn the tables. :cry:
 

Xenon

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The criteria I used there was that by "tempting" Marion, his actions, despite selfish, served to put her integrity to test...and she accepted without even trying to turn the tables. :cry:

I also don't see how that would make her actions worse than the sheriff's. If you're faulting Marion for sleeping with someone else instead of being faithful to Robin, well, the Sheriff bore a lot of responsibility for that too.

Perhaps it wasn't the most assertive thing she could have done, but the test isn't asking you to rank the characters according to how much assertiveness they showed. It asks you to rank them on morality, and Marion's intent was to help someone she loved.

Anyway, my order was:

1. Marion - she sacrificed herself for Robin
2. Little John - he did nothing wrong either, and his actions were helpful to Marion, but since he gained something from this act (Marion) I don't see it as purely altruistic
3. Robin - terrible behaviour, and I had trouble choosing between him and the Sheriff, but gave him the benefit of doubt in the end since he was likely in the grip of his emotions.
4. Sheriff - he took advantage of his power, and this had nothing to do with strong emotions: it was planned and calculated. He also isn't taking his job seriously if he makes decisions on who has to stay imprisoned based on bribery.
 

mockingbird

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You are fairly broadminded romantic and reasonably contented. You value kindness greatly and try to live by your ideals. You do not conceal from yourself, or from others, your strong need for security, which may be either emotional or material.

Women: Your experiences of men have not all been happy, perhaps because you hope for a little too much?


Little John did nothing wrong in this story, in fact, the good he did was above beyond anything that could have been expected of him. What Marion did was incredibly self sacrificing and done out of love, but hers is still a case of the end justifying the means. Not the highest form of morality, IMO. As bad as Robin's reaction was, the Sherrif was the one abusing his power, taking advantage of Marion, and causing this whole sordid situation in the first place.
 

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If you're faulting Marion for sleeping with someone else instead of being faithful to Robin, well, the Sheriff bore a lot of responsibility for that too.

Perhaps it wasn't the most assertive thing she could have done, but the test isn't asking you to rank the characters according to how much assertiveness they showed. It asks you to rank them on morality, and Marion's intent was to help someone she loved.

1 In those times wouldn't women have been pretty opressed? 'Asserting' (she really wasn't) herself sexually is surely the only way she could have possibly freed the man she loved/her friend.

2 What kind of insane person would argue the life of the one you love is worth less than sex the once with someone you're only having sex with for the one you love (or even just a friend)?

Also, What kind of person makes another (their love for godsake) feel guilty and sinfull after just having saved their life, as if a woman's only purpose is to be chaste and pure till her wedding day and she is automatically wrong, and bad and a money hungry sinful slut (she wasn't doing it for affluence or avarice or to feed a drug habit, a human life is worth more than gold or silver) for trying to break out against the very vile and authoritarian rule of a man who essentially rapes her? Grr, I really don't like this Robin.
 

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1 In those times wouldn't women have been pretty opressed? 'Asserting' (she really wasn't) herself sexually is surely the only way she could have possibly freed the man she loved/her friend.

I was thinking maybe she could have come up with some cunning plan that could lead to his release, or gotten someone with higher authority on her side. True enough though, doing what he wanted was probably the surest and most obvious solution. And it did work in the end.

What kind of person makes another (their love for godsake) feel guilty and sinfull after just having saved their life, as if a woman's only purpose is to be chaste and pure till her wedding day

Yes, this. Someone complained above that the interpretations were critical of certain choices (calling people's values misogynistic and confused, etc.) but I don't see any other way of looking at it. Why else would someone rank Marion last in morality? After all, even if you think she was wrong to be unfaithful, or that sex outside marriage is always wrong regardless of circumstances, the sheriff was responsible for that too.

I have a vague memory of this being discussed in class actually, and I think it was a teacher in Catholic school, in 7th or 8th grade. I wish I could recall what was said about it...
 

Orangey

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Little John
Robin Hood
Maid Marion
The Sheriff

You are a cautious type, neutral, and rather insecure. You would agree with the idea that everybody has his price - and in your own case it would not be high.

Women: At least one man has made you unhappy, and you are now on your guard.

Heh, I think I'm the only person to get this result so far. My reasoning is that, given what we know, Little John is basically blameless on all counts. Robin Hood is only guilty of being an ungrateful dickhead, but he didn't really do anything wrong. It's not like he's obligated to stay with Marion, though, like I said, he should have shown more gratitude. Marion compromised herself by sleeping with the Sheriff. She should never have succumbed to his authority. The Sheriff is by far the worst bastard of this story, since not only did he abuse a woman, he abused his power as well.

So, there. And I find the result to be mostly true, sans the being made unhappy by a man part. Oh, and the price not being high part (hmmm...just what are they implying?) Well, we've all been made unhappy by a man at some point in our lives, but not really in the context of a romantic relationship (for me). And I think that's what they meant.
 

Usehername

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Robin Hood is only guilty of being an ungrateful dickhead, but he didn't really do anything wrong.
Did you read this part?
Robin abused her


mjsr
Maid Marion, Little John, The Sheriff, Robin Hood

You are essentially a contented person, even if you consider yourself a little superior. You are moral by your own standards, for you believe that morality is what best suits the occasion.

Men: You are sexually uninhibited, more romantic than you may appear, and more dependent on the approval of others than you care to admit.

Women: You like being a woman, you understand what love is, and frankly enjoy sex.
 

Orangey

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Did you read this part?

I thought it meant that he verbally abused her and called her a slut. You know, like in books when people say, "oh, I have never been so abused," and they're referring to some sort of social blunder? I didn't assume that it meant physical or sexual...I assumed it would have been explicit about that since it's important to the question.
 
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