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Dark City is the Best movie.
It was definitely worth the rewatch. This is a case where I do think the Director's Cut is better / fleshes things out a bit more.

There were a few shots I wasn't happy with in regards to the conversion, and I assume the original footage must have been inadequate in some way, so cleaning it up removed some of the detail; but there were other scenes that just really popped nicely now (like the red of the Automat or the background in the dismal flat with the married couple who end up being recast as rich). Also the final shots when John emerges into the sunlight amid the water and breeze of Shell beach are maybe a little too exposed, but I think it still works just fine because it's almost like a larger-than-life fantasy moment with the Happy Ending (although it has that bittersweet twinge under it -- maybe Emma no longer remembers him, but their relationship can now start again and the possibilities seem endless). The music there is just glorious, and so if the colors are too, that's fine.

Was a little sad to be watching William Hurt again, after sitting through "Brave New World" yesterday where he had been replaced by Harrison Ford. I've overall really enjoyed his performances, whether it was Altered States or Artificial Intelligence, etc. He actually makes Bumstead interesting here, and slowly unraveling. I think this was the first film I saw Rufus Sewell in as well, with his otherworldly face. It cracked me up years later after I became a Melissa George fan (mostly from Triangle and the TV show In Treatment) that she plays May, the prostitute that features prominently in the film.

Gotta give callouts too to Ian Richardson (Mr. Book) and Richard O' Brien (Mr. Hand) who feature so strongly among the Strangers; but the one guy who says "Poor poor Mr. Quick" I just adore, along with another who I think might be a young bald female? And of course, I really like Keifer Sutherland acting, playing against type here. Nice to see him do something different.

Weyland Yutani makes the Ash Android capable of lying about certain things. People just assume that androids can't/arent programmed to lie. Devious. Ash choosing to lie for his final words sort of perfectly sums up what his character was all about. Bishop II was programmed to lie. But Ash...Ash enjoyed it.
Definitely one of my favorite sequences among cinema.
 
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Well, I watched The Phoenecian Scheme last weekend.


I went in there knowing it had relatively lukewarm critiques but ended up fully enjoying it. Then again I am a dyed in the wool Wes Anderson fan.

From what I could gather the main criticism is that he is repeating himself style-wise (isn't that what a recognisable style is about? I for one am still eating that stuff up with a spoon) and that the plot wasn't emotionally deep and relatable enough. To tell you the truth, I normally don't watch movies for stuff like character development or heros you can root for or anything of that sort. I'm mostly in it for witty dialogue, gorgeous cinematography, interesting setting and, okay, a riveting plot if I can have that too (but not really action sequences, as I actually often find those boring).

So let's look at The Phoenecian Scheme:
cinematography: It's ridiculously beautiful and extremely, and I mean EXTREMELY, wes-anderson-y. Really.
plot: It's an adventure story set in the 1950s or 60s with espionage, assasionation attempts, explosions, a plane crash in the jungle, quicksand, guerilla fighters, a possible murder in the family past .. the whole motherlode. I loved that. On the other hand the plot is very episodic (I dislike stories based on "let's find these four bombs/talk to these five people / visit these six places to get solve the puzzle/save the world, etc"). And I can't blame people who complain that the plot is a bit convoluted or not emotionally gripping enough (something I don't really mind that much).
cast and characters: The characters are paperthin charicatures with little development. But they are cool and funny and entertaining to watch. The cast is top notch, as one would expect from a WA film, and the acting is solid. There are loads of relatively short walk-ins by A-listers who probably collaborated for a sandwich and a warm handshake just to be in the movie.
humor and witty dialogue: Humor is obviously subjective but I did find the movie quite funny. My first laugh was just a few seconds in during the very first scene of the picture when Benicio del Toro's lead character reacts to a bomb exploding next to him on an airplane by calmly putting a book he was reading neatly back into the book holder of his airplane seat before running to save his life.
Deeper message/social relevance: Pulling a blank here. Maybe after some rewatching, but for now I'd call it very aesthetic and pretty funny escapism.
 

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Wow, they open with bits of the song "No Good Deed"...! It's a cool song that really captures Elphaba's anguish, and maybe the hardest song (not because of high notes, but the voice line itself -- the singer basically just has to memorize the timing) to sing in the show. So excited to hear that.
 

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Jay sums it up pretty well...

I think Mr Russel could be the Snake Plisken we need for more Escape From... movies.
I think the Thunderbolts is suffering because people are beyond burnt out with the Superhero Genre rn. Put it on the shelf for a while Disney.​
 

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The puzzling thing about the "long string of flops" is the movie industry's continued flogging of the dying superhero horse. Most other franchises (or fads) only get a short string of flops before they are pronounced dead.
 

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The puzzling thing about the "long string of flops" is the movie industry's continued flogging of the dying superhero horse. Most other franchises (or fads) only get a short string of flops before they are pronounced dead.
It just doesnt make any sense... I'm not saying I want it shelved the way they shelved sword and sorcery after the 80's but like please, please give us like 2 years off, where we get some solid fantasy, sci fi, or urban fantasy. I don't know if we'll get any original ips for the next several years though...they seem really obsessed with giving us superheroes whether we want it or not :shrug:
 

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I think Mr Russel could be the Snake Plisken we need for more Escape From... movies.
I think the Thunderbolts is suffering because people are beyond burnt out with the Superhero Genre rn. Put it on the shelf for a while Disney.​
Face it, Disney got lucky for the first few MCU phases. There were some really great films in there, but there were others that were only average and a few that were bad (although overall much better than post-Endgame) -- but people were still happy just to see superheroes on screen finally that weren't cheesy to view.

Then Endgame concluded the arc, and then COVID + the growth of streaming decimated the routine of attending movies in a theater.

I think a lot of their projections are unrealistic, the world has changed. Frankly Thunderbolts probably made the amount of money it deserved to make. While it was better than much of their recent shit, it's not THAT great of a film... and it's trying to establish an unbalanced team that few people care about as the New Avengers. Just like Brave New World -- not a great film either, it just had a few good bits but most was mundane at best and a few parts were boring AF. But hey it was all better than Secret Invasion.

Their cash cow is depleted, they can't expect to get nearly as much money right now on these films from ticket sales. I honestly don't think FF is going to do that well either after two weeks in the theater (unless they pull off something GREAT with Galactus, since he's big-screen impressive), I think there will be a first/second week glut and then not much. I'm also a bit skeptical on Doomsday because of the RDJr card. A lot of people don't care for it and/or it smacks of desperation to many; they have to really smack that concept out of the park to get people in.

It just doesnt make any sense... I'm not saying I want it shelved the way they shelved sword and sorcery after the 80's but like please, please give us like 2 years off, where we get some solid fantasy, sci fi, or urban fantasy. I don't know if we'll get any original ips for the next several years though...they seem really obsessed with giving us superheroes whether we want it or not :shrug:

I'd be happy with some decent urban fantasy. No one wants to take a chance on things, anymore, though.
 

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Face it, Disney got lucky for the first few MCU phases. There were some really great films in there, but there were others that were only average and a few that were bad (although overall much better than post-Endgame) -- but people were still happy just to see superheroes on screen finally that weren't cheesy to view.

Then Endgame concluded the arc, and then COVID + the growth of streaming decimated the routine of attending movies in a theater.

I think a lot of their projections are unrealistic, the world has changed. Frankly Thunderbolts probably made the amount of money it deserved to make. While it was better than much of their recent shit, it's not THAT great of a film... and it's trying to establish an unbalanced team that few people care about as the New Avengers. Just like Brave New World -- not a great film either, it just had a few good bits but most was mundane at best and a few parts were boring AF. But hey it was all better than Secret Invasion.

Their cash cow is depleted, they can't expect to get nearly as much money right now on these films from ticket sales. I honestly don't think FF is going to do that well either after two weeks in the theater (unless they pull off something GREAT with Galactus, since he's big-screen impressive), I think there will be a first/second week glut and then not much. I'm also a bit skeptical on Doomsday because of the RDJr card. A lot of people don't care for it and/or it smacks of desperation to many; they have to really smack that concept out of the park to get people in.



I'd be happy with some decent urban fantasy. No one wants to take a chance on things, anymore, though.
Disney should make a movie about killing the goose that laid the golden eggs :newwink:
 

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The Matrix was right—1999 was the height of civilization. It was a blast to live through the 90s, not a perfect time, but it’s been a steady decline since then.

Ok. An argument can be made that maybe 2013 or so was the apex (at least of the American empire), but I think that was just a brief trend upward before things continued to go to shit
 

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Is it a hot take that I think Tony Scott is/was a better director and more of an auteur than Ridley?
 

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No one understands Anora more than I do.

(Being facetious obviously, but I just love the movie and the character so much)
 

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Boogie Nights. Possibly my favorite film ever. At least in my top three. Contender for greatest film of the nineties (Pulp Fiction or Goodfellas really should be number one though).

It’s a brilliant tragicomedy. I think Buck and Jessie may be the only characters who seem to come out of it all okay. I don’t see Dirk or Amber surviving the eighties. Jack’s glory days as a semi respected adult filmmaker are probably behind him. Reed is reduced to being a shitty magician.

I love the way the tone changes at the New Year’s party. It is symbolic for the transition of cultural values as America entered the eighties. The party is over and the rest of the film feels like the day of hangover and regret afterwards—just as the free spirit excesses of the seventies became too much and we imploded into a period of relative formality and prudishness in Reagan’s eighties.

Every time I watch it (and I’ve see it close to a hundred times), I notice some new detail or Easter egg. PTA really put a lot of thought into every aspect of this movie. I know he’s made great films since but none of them top Boogie Nights for me.

It really is one of those rare perfect movies. It’s two and a half hours and yet it sucks me in and moves at a great pace. I’m always sad for it to end. It’s also a great film to fall asleep to
 

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Predator: Killer of Killers. I was pleasantly surprised. While the franchise itself has always been underwritten and sometimes clumsily written, I would be willing to argue this might be the best written entry in the entire franchise, even compared to the original iconic entry (which has strong archetype characters but only the barest smidgen of actual written character arcs).

This film is a triptych of stories all then pulled together into a final conclusion story. Each protagonist has an actual articulated and experienced character arc that then plays heavily into the fourth piece. And their individual arcs work without necessarily the predators even being involved. The predator element just adds to the spice and provides them additional opportunity to complete their individual arcs. I can't begin to tell you how pleased I am with the work they've been doing on this franchise over the last few years, and I'm glad someone took the franchise seriously enough to actually tell stories versus just throw out another bland and mindless predator torture p0rn entry.

Not that there is not some heavy violence in these story arcs. There definitely is, and some pretty great fight sequences, and they take full advantage of the setting (Norse, Japan, WWII) in terms of how the fights play out environmentally. Really creative sequences appear here. (Extra stars given for using a kusarigama in the Japan fight sequences.) I also appreciate how the predators each looks different in terms of build / appearance, and also fight differently. It all felt pretty unique and gives me hope for the future of this franchise, as far as it goes.

I recommend this film even if you're not a Predator fan per se, due to the actual character arcs that were developed. It was all pretty nifty.

I can't say the same for Alien: Romulus. I'm sorry. I really wanted to super-appreciate this film and generally like Fede Alverez' films, but I watched it recently for these second time and it felt even less impressive this time around. The main reason for this is because the film had a lot of potential for a unique entry and getting back to its horror roots, but it CONTINUALLY and smugly seems to allude back to the two best films in the franchise. SO many lines, imagery, etc., were yanked out of far better films, and every time it happens it (1) knocks me out of this film (2) deadens the unique contributions of this film. One of the most obvious was needlessly CGI'ing Ian Holm's face for a synthenoid that WASN'T named Ash, and another is how many hoops had to be jumped through for the least likely character to tell an alien, "Get away from her, you bitch" -- but that's not even close to the total number of audial and visual callbacks that were just glopped into this film.

Of course, this is worsened by NOT doing what the two best films did: Creating easily memorable archetype characters. Every character from the first and second film is quickly established and named, and despite not really knowing their backstories in any detail, you quickly get a strong impression of who each of them is. Here I can't even remember the characters names except for the only two worth remembering: Rain and Andy. Who are the others again? This is the second time I've watched the film, and a week later I can't recall their names! Nor can I really recall anything interesting about any of them, except one was pregnant and another hated Andy because an artificial human had resolved a Trolley Car paradox not in his parents' favor in a mining incident when he was younger. I literally have no idea who these characters are.

So you get a great film like Aliens that stands on its own and earns its beats without directly stealing stuff from Alien, and then you get a shit film like this that is constantly is trying to steal from prior films.

This film had a few unique moments that I liked. One was a total onslaught of facehuggers that need to be escaped from (normally we've only seen 1-3 at a time), and another was the anti-gravity flaw in the system boot being utilized to get through an impassible tunnel of aliens. And MAYBE, just MAYBE, the last act counts as something unique -- the new alien hybrid worked for some people, didn't work for others, but there's a nicely grotesque and twisted image of baby coming back to momma to nurse, probably the most horrific thing I've run across since reading about Mordred's birth in King's "The Dark Tower" series. The imagery of the ring and the station slowly grinding into it was pretty impressive. Even the idea of the ship having two separate pieces (Romulus and Remus) could have been played up on more, but was a neat idea.

But this film even failed in basic story writing 101. Rain literally opens the film dreaming about being on a planet with a sun. It's the one thing she wants -- it's her "I want" moment. But the film then ends with Rain and Andy escaping leaving a numb journal entry, which is cribbed from BOTH Alien and Aliens. Besides being yet another copycat ending that worsens the film's integrity, this isn't resolving her initial "I want" arc. The proper ending was her getting in the pod and going to sleep, and then you think she's dreaming as we next see her sitting on the same cliff by herself watching the sun rise, looking like the same dream... except then Andy walks over and sits next to her and you realize that this is not a dream, it's REAL. She's there. They made it. An Alien film with a happy ending: Who would have thought?

(You could even ratchet the tension with some question about whether the ship's pods truly have enough fuel to reach the planet and/or whether the ship has enough integrity to finish the 7 year journey. So you're tense, seeing her dream... and then relief as you recognize that she and Andy both made it. Thank god. No shitty next film about her crashing on a prison planet and Andy getting mangled in the crash, lol.)

And if you want to also cap Rain's journey from just considering abandoning Andy as a synthetic but then truly coming to view her as her "brother," you'd be looking at their backs with the sunrise beyond them, and then Rain slowly leans over and puts her head on Andy's shoulder, in a move very reminiscent of a sibling putting her head on her larger sibling's shoulder.

Even with all the other shit, I would have given this film higher marks if it had stuck the landing. But nope, it's just mostly recycled pabulum. With all the overhype, I have to wonder how low the bar is for the Alien franchise nowadays.
 
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Predator: Killer of Killers. I was pleasantly surprised. While the franchise itself has always been underwritten and sometimes clumsily written, I would be willing to argue this might be the best written entry in the entire franchise, even compared to the original iconic entry (which has strong archetype characters but only the barest smidgen of actual written character arcs).

This film is a triptych of stories all then pulled together into a final conclusion story. Each protagonist has an actual articulated and experienced character arc that then plays heavily into the fourth piece. And their individual arcs work without necessarily the predators even being involved. The predator element just adds to the spice and provides them additional opportunity to complete their individual arcs. I can't begin to tell you how pleased I am with the work they've been doing on this franchise over the last few years, and I'm glad someone took the franchise seriously enough to actually tell stories versus just throw out another bland and mindless predator torture p0rn entry.
I liked this film too. Admittedly, I am a fan of this franchise (although there have been some stinkers). I also agree with you on Alien Romulus. Worst entry in that franchise so far.

Have you seen Sinners yet? This strikes me as a film which will hit your watch list. I watched it and did not care for it too much. I'd say it is kind of cheesy over all. What puzzles me is the high ratings is has on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes. I just don't get it. It's not terrible though, I would give it a 6/10.

At first this movie looks like it will be a sort of prohibition era gangster movie featuring black tough guys (probably a them vs the klan thing). Then it takes a complete left turn and becomes sort of a mashup of From Dusk Till Dawn and Oh Brother Where Art Thou. There's lots of music and song and dance numbers although not so many you would consider this a musical. The plot, such as it is, is rather simplistic and not that compelling. Decent amount of action though.

I think the high ratings are probably due to the music (professional movie critics always have a soft spot for this kind of thing). It also has pretty much an all black cast and to some extent discusses racial issues (one of the vampires big selling points is that there is no racism among vampires) so maybe cancel culture mutes the criticism of this movie's obvious short comings. *shrug*
 

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Have you seen Sinners yet? This strikes me as a film which will hit your watch list. I watched it and did not care for it too much. I'd say it is kind of cheesy over all. What puzzles me is the high ratings is has on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes. I just don't get it. It's not terrible though, I would give it a 6/10.

At first this movie looks like it will be a sort of prohibition era gangster movie featuring black tough guys (probably a them vs the klan thing). Then it takes a complete left turn and becomes sort of a mashup of From Dusk Till Dawn and Oh Brother Where Art Thou. There's lots of music and song and dance numbers although not so many you would consider this a musical. The plot, such as it is, is rather simplistic and not that compelling. Decent amount of action though.

I think the high ratings are probably due to the music (professional movie critics always have a soft spot for this kind of thing). It also has pretty much an all black cast and to some extent discusses racial issues (one of the vampires big selling points is that there is no racism among vampires) so maybe cancel culture mutes the criticism of this movie's obvious short comings. *shrug*

You sound kind of dismissive about it, and I'm not even sure why you need to chalk its success up to just really lame viewpoints or prejudices. There's at least enough there to discuss intelligently....

Saw it when it came out. I've generally liked all the films Coogler directed, and thought Fruitvale Station (his first film) was really great. Sinners isn't a film I'd rewatch much, but it was enjoyable on first watch and I'd watch it again especially if I had someone to watch it with.


I knew going into it that it was a vampire film, although I didn't know what the time period or setting was. Naw, not a musical -- but music is important. There's also a strong undercurrent of how important music was to American black people for the last few hundred years. It's particularly important in this film if simply just for the kid protagonist, who has been practicing his blues guitar to the detriment of his relationship with his preacher father, who thinks it's the doorway to hell. (The film starts with the kid coming to his father's service covered in blood, and then we find out the rest of the film as a prolonged flashback until it catches back up to this moment with the kid and his preacher father.)

You'd think his father's judgment would have validity when the kid goes out to that big dance/music gathering for the local black community, along with drinking being present... and then everything goes to shit, kind of like the curse of god falling on everyone there for their "iniquities" -- which makes the ending of the film so great. I mentioned that moment drove me to tears, and then seeing what the kid made of his life. He had every reason to abandon the thing he loved... but he loved it so much that bad happenstance wasn't enough for him to comply with his dad's judgments. And he spent the next fifty years being happy. That's not just a black story, it's the story of any person who has been badgered and beaten down by a repressive authoritarian system to hate their own gifts -- but somehow finds the faith, love, and courage to pursue their own sense of self / passion anyway, even if it leads to the loss of family and roots.

There's also an interplay between the Irish and black folks here, both with their own musical styles, but also in both being treated like trash by the local white folks. I think there's a joke in Blazing Saddles where the white townsfolk finally agree to give land to the blacks and Chinese... but don't as part of the concession they insist "We don't want the Irish"? Yeah....

But the music also serves a variety of purpose in the film and can reflect untrustworthy exchanges and even cultural appropriation of a kind, to offer something that ain't either wanted or needed....


I did kinda laugh at the reverse racism at first against Mary -- she's a white person crashing the black gathering -- although there were enough there to vouch for her that she gets in. (To her detriment in some ways.) Boy, Hailee Steinfeld's grown up a ton, it feels like yesterday I first saw her as a kid in the True Grit (2010) remake where she blew everyone's socks off, and her career hasn't slowed down since. "I heard you loud and clear, but then you stuck your tongue in my cooze and fucked me so hard I figured you changed your mind," ain't exactly a Gwen Stacey "safe for kids" line roflmao...

Anyway... just again, thinking about what the title means -- who the actual sinners are, what the wages of sin are, how this plays out for blacks, irish, white racists, and a kid musician with a lot of talent and faith that he was on the right path...
 

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Saw 28 Years Later today.

Leave it to Alex Garland and Danny Boyle (who did 28 Days Later together) to jump cross-genre and essentially make a coming-of-age film with zombie violence as a backdrop. It does explain the drop in RT scores (92% critic, 68% audience). There's some nice zombie set pieces but that's not the core of the story, set 28 years past the initial outbreak.

Since I'm not anchored to a particular genre and am fine flexing, I really enjoyed it (Damn zombie movie -- made me cry!) There's SO many unexpected moments in this film that just left me speechless.

I was expecting solid performances from Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Jodie Comer and Ralph Fiennes, but this new kid (the protagonist) Alfie Williams, with barely any films under his belt, just nailed this role. Lol, the Irish vampire (Remmick) from Sinners shows up in this film.

Was really interesting to see how the quarantined human communities evolved, but also how the Rage zombies also adapted and evolved. Also fun to see how the opening sequence ties into the film itself (I won't spoil it).

The second movie was already filmed and supposedly is releasing in January 2026, and possibly a third that isn't filmed yet, all written by Garland so at least they have a coherent vision.
 
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