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Questionnaire for typing (sorry for editing too much)

io789

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1) Context:

a) What is your age range and general location (Country so that cultural values can be taken into account)? Do you have any impairments that may affect the way that you answer this questionnaire? Any religious or political beliefs (or anything else along those lines) that also might have an effect?

I am in my early thirties, polish and proud of it (a patriot, not a xenophobe or racist) and physically ill but mentally fine. Despite my patriotic inclinations, I often disagree with my countrymen on many levels because I don't think liberalism and patriotism at odds with each other. I also disagree with westerners on many levels too. So my values are more my own.

b) Which types are you currently considering? Why are you considering them and why haven't you decided on one?

I score isfp lately and I mostly agree but I do notice that I have more trouble accepting myself than a typical Fi user. They tend to be more unapologetic and less painfully self aware like I am. In the same time, I often feel like I am perhaps a bit too open and forceful to be an introvert in general. I experienced a lot of anxiety towards people in the past but now it's mostly gone and frankly, I don't find initiating conversations and insisting on my opinions that hard. In fact, I may be afraid of opening up on a deeper level more (one on one) because I am afraid of being judged like I was many times in my life. Every time I simply joke around with many people, it feels shallow but relaxing but every time the conversation gets serious and I open up completely, I do that but later regret it because 1) people are rarely as open as me 2) I constantly feel their judgement, lack of care towards me and painful mismatch of values. Then I beat myself up for opening and shut down until I get bored with bottling everything inside - and the vicious cycle repeats. I spent the majority of my life in isolation due to personal problems and Illnesses, protecting others from my personal opinions but now I want to express them at last. It is obvious that I am a low energy person due to being ill but I am also a bit more of a workaholic than inferior Te suggests. I live for my work and I wouldn't say that effectiveness is my weak spot. Esfp or enfp would seem more reasonable if not for, again, chaotic outbursts of ideas of high Ne or pleasure seeking of high Se: I have neither. I do have Fi for sure in my opinion, though.
Based on some of my responses you may guess I have some traits of Ti which could be somewhat true if not for Ti types seeming absolutely insufferable to me with their lack of people knowledge: I am not the best with people yet I read their motivations pretty well and pay attention to people in general. I am very emotionally volatile for a Ti type but also much more cheerful.

Well, it's up to you to decide what I am.

2) What do you deem as your purpose in life?

To leave something after myself that will be valued and of use to future generations. And which will bring them joy, hopefully.

3) Of the seven deadly sins, which one(s) do you relate to the most and the least and why?

At first, I thought Sloth but then I realized that I am actually just physically ill and in fact a workaholic when it comes to my own projects so no, not Sloth by any means. My sexual desires are strong but I also wouldn't say Lust because not only I have good self control when it comes to sexuality, sexuality in general has been more of a positive force in my life.
It took me a long time to realize that my sin is Wrath. I do sometimes cry when angry but it doesn't mean that I am incapable of absolutely vicious hatred - of myself and others when I am angry. I am ashamed to say that I am capable of all consuming anger of colossal proportions and I swear a terrible amount and sometimes say atrocious things which can make me shudder when I remember them later (trust me, you don't want to hear what I say).

4) Analyzing your relationships with others, briefly describe:

a) The type of people you are drawn to

Charismatic, self aware, witty people. Though they are not always drawn to me. Sucks for them,I guess. :)

b) The type of people who are drawn to you

Mostly narcissists who think they look good compared to me as I am generally considered socially undesirable for some reason

c) The type of people you are repulsed by

I am rarely repulsed by people, it's too strong of a word for most apart from psychopathic individuals. Yet... I do dislike people who lack self awareness. For example, people who brag about having no emotions or something like that - it basically screams 'I am emotionally stunted degenerate who can't control my emotions at all and therefore thinks I have none'. People who laugh at funerals and then claim you are 'conservative' and they are just being 'quirky' and 'logical' while they are actually massive drama queens who made the whole event about themselves. Gleeful emotional immaturity is what seriously grinds my gears. I am not the most emotionally mature person around but I don't think being immature is something to be proud of. It is something to overcome.

5)What are the traits in others that you admire but you cannot emulate yourself? Elaborate.

I can't be overly brave and reckless. I am a cautious person by nature. It's difficult to me to relate to others (even though I genuinely try to be compassionate) and 'pay my debts'. I dislike being indebted to someone not because I am greedy but because I lead a very obsessive lifestyle and can't always understand the needs of others. For example, if you once treat me to a coffee in a cafe I will thank you, smile and will act genuinely grateful but may not return the favor (if you expect it) simply because my lifestyle doesn't involve cafes that much. I may also forget it because my job requires rapidly changing tasks, a lot of thinking and angst. The solution to this is clarifying what you expect me to do in return right away (I won't be offended). I am not autistic, I am actually quite savvy in terms of communication and deciphering motives of others but not their needs - simply because my own needs are very different (food , sleep, silence, work, that's it, for the most part).

6) Describe your relationship with the following:

a) Anger

I can't express my anger completely but it's almost always bubbling under the surface

b) Shame

Shame is a pointless emotion. Of course, I do feel it but I know it's pointless.

c) Fear
I fear a lot of things but lately, I mostly fear death because I am ill

d) Love/passion
I am a very passionate and even sensual person. I can find beauty even in places and people others find very ugly. I am romantic, but in a down-to-earth, non-idealistic way which means I don't need much in terms of decorum, style, atmosphere and so on but a lot in terms of warmth and acceptance. I'd even say ugly faces are more beautiful to me because they have more character.

You may say I am an easy going lover and it's true but so far I haven't had any success in love because my overly frank approach is at odds with modern definition of romance which is all about demands - physical, sexual, social and so on. I am not even against demands and being demanding in general - by all means push through and demand in your career, I respect that, but I don't think love is the place to be demanding. I just want to feel home at last - just the way I am now.

e) Conflict

I can't stand prolonged conflict and ad hominems, they tire me out and I withdraw (still raging terribly on the inside). But interestingly I often notice that I sometimes win arguments 'in the long run' after being proved right by the circumstances.

7) What are some of the themes that have played a prominent role in your life (ie. A struggle you've been unable to conquer, etc)?

I want to be accepted by people but in my opinion, people don't want to accept me. I am not some kind of a tragic type 4 either - despite my very difficult childhood, I am witty, open, quite honest and not even particularly shy. I am also quick to show people what I do and what I am like so it's not like I am acting suspicious or aloof. Yet still, everywhere, in my country and abroad too, I am often met with hostility, suspicion or mockery. My concerns are often dismissed as childish or whiny even if they turn out to be reasonable in the end. I am casually not taken seriously. Compared to others, I don't demand much, leading a very modest lifestyle which consists mostly of work yet people are quick to accuse me of being pampered and capricious for some reason (which frustrates me to no end as someone who is just pretty physically ill). People tend to 'other' me and all I ever wanted is to be accepted by them. That's why I am obsessed with patriotism - in hopes that even if they find my personality repulsive, maybe they can offer me their friendship as one of their countrymen at the very least.

P.S. I know that people will still label me type 4 and for those people especially, I am saying: I Don't want to stand out. I don't like expressing myself via clothes. My suffering is strong but it isn't something I value in myself. I want to get rid of it. I prefer cheerfully doing things to wallowing in self pity even if I am very hurt. Even though I have a lot of reasons to be upset, all of them are legitimate reasons which I can explain, in great detail. I hate being misunderstood and may even insult a person who claims that I want to be cryptic on purpose. Basically any claim that my suffering is for show or exaggerated fills me with uncontrollable rage. I strive to be understood and in my opinion, I do everything to be exactly that - understood.

8) Answer only one of the following:

a) [College aged and above] What is your area of work/study? Why did you choose this and would you change it? If so, what would be your ideal?

I don't think there is a correlation between profession and type. That said, I am in a creative field.

b)[Under college aged] What do you plan on studying/working as in the future? How did you go about deciding this? If this is not your ideal area of pursuit, what would be?

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9) When meeting a new person, what do you tend to focus on?

Whether they are trustworthy - in all the senses of the word. Whether they are self aware (being unaware of your faults and even bragging about it is insufferable to me) and to which extent the information they provide - about themselves, the world, etc, is accurate and useful to me. After that, just personal sympathy - whether the way they talk, behave, their values are interesting to me and whether they are capable of accepting me. That last part is important - I often find myself sincerely in awe of people I meet just to find I happen to be the kind of person they avoid for some cryptic reason. If you dislike me, at least be honest about why and formulate a coherent response I can appeal to or laugh at. I can't stand emotionally numb (emotionally dumb?) people who sort people out into friends and enemies based on some kind of fleeting instinct and who can never debate or explain their position. 'A gut feeling' is not an argument, it's a base for prejudice. Yes, I may refer to it too at times but being observant is much better and that's what I try to do: to watch a person very carefully. Thankfully, I am observant when it comes to people and remember them down to the littlest details quickly.

10) How do you feel about humanity as a whole? What do you feel are some of the biggest problems the human race faces and why?

People must learn to be responsible for their actions. To accept pain as inevitable and a great teacher. To accept that life can't be one big festival of pleasures. That compassion is not a sign of weakness but more of a duty. That you must do something for the world and not just for yourself. That not everything is fine to laugh at. That people who do something for the world and improve it are more valuable than those who don't, even if it's a painful truth. That no one will provide you with things you want and you are not entitled to anything. That hierarchies will always exist and destroying them will just create unfair hierarchy of animal law: pure physical power which will harm women,children, old people, Ill people, minorities. That no matter what cultural analysis tells us, there is such a thing as absolute truth, called a fact - if it didn't exist, there would be no courtrooms, no trials, no politics, no science, no medicine, no history, no education, no journalists risking their lives for these facts. Instead of being quick to assume some position, we must first establish the facts - and it's difficult because our very logical apparatus is a byproduct of monastic philosophical thought of Middle Ages, our science evolved from religion. While religion has its place in the world, we are used to putting ideology above the facts which saddens me terribly.

11) What are some of your hobbies and interests

When it comes to hobbies, I like being in the moment, playing videogames because I like strategy, exploration and 'testing yourself' aspect. I am a bad gamer by the way but I still try to push myself to overcome the challenges a game throws at me. I get very emotionally attached to things I like - books, movies, games and often revisit them seeking new meanings (and I find them, usually).


13) How do you usually 'hang out' with your friend(s)? When answering, think about what activities you tend to choose, whether you hang out with one person at once or many, whether or not you initiate the interaction.

I like to discuss works of art that I like and current events such in politics. I like to philosophize but I wouldn't say that I am pompous about it. I am not an erudite and in my debates, I usually simply use my experiences or even personal impressions (while understanding their limitations) as talking points. I do try to support my opinions with facts. I am bold but also modest in asserting my opinions. What means: I am direct in what I am trying to say, both logically and emotionally but I don't put myself on pedestal and don't try to assume the position of an expert. Basically, I just like figuring the world via conversation - internal and external and I get annoyed when people mistake my confidence for smugness when it's just an attempt at honesty (and a call to be honest with me in return). My arguments are also generously sprinkled with emotion, including obvious despair or frustration,expressed in all their fullness.(I am good at capturing what I feel or think with words, I am the opposite of 'autistic' I guess, because I can almost always find something to say and it's often fitting). I am both logical and emotional at once so it's difficult for me to see my type.

I prefer talking in small groups and one and one - but only if the conversation isn't too heavy, otherwise big groups are even better.

14) What is more important, actions or words? Why?

If words were more important than actions, I'd rule the world. ;) I am very eloquent but actions is what matters. Frankly, is this even a question?

15) Oh dear, you've been cursed by a witch! It's ok though, you get a choice on which curse you will receive. Will you choose...

a) To never be able to experience the sensation of taste

b) To be immortal

c) To lose your memories

d) To be poor for the rest of your life

e) Or to never experience passion

Elaborate on why!

Being immortal doesn't sound that bad but since the general consensus seems to be that immortal people tend to get 'corrupted' or the desire for immortality is corrupt by nature, I will hesitate. On the other hand, how can anyone know that for sure? It's not like there was a single immortal person in history. In my opinion, humanity could benefit from a guardian who would stay with them forever.

This guardian is not me, though. I am compassionate and strive to understand motivations behind every historical decision but in the end, I am a bit selfish. Not selfish as in 'greedy, willing to step over people' but selfish as in interested in making my own projects reality first and foremost. Plus, I am often overemotional, stubborn, impatient and wrathful. I am a bit too much of a human and not enough of a god. So, yeah, the sense of taste is an easy thing to lose. I already have many dietary restrictions due to health (no sugar, no milk, no gluten) and living without particular joy of food is easy to me. I do like physical pleasures and seek them but food is pretty low on my list of pleasures. Which is ironic, since I am a bit overweight and people constantly assume I love food. In reality, I am a bit ascetic when it comes to food and I'd even rate a feeling of sunlight on my skin higher than pleasure from any meal.

16) What do you hope to avoid being? If it helps, describe a person who embodies what you avoid/you as a villain, etc.

I don't believe there are traits that are inherently bad. Everything is a double-edged sword. Evil is not relative but circumstances that lead to corruption are. Unless you did something inhumane like murder, rape or torture you don't have to ponder your 'villainy' because there is none. I'd rather see people learn to wield their natural predispositions with wisdom than see perfectly balanced individuals because balance being inherently good is also an illusion. Evil has more to do with how people choose to treat others than their personality traits.

17) How do you relate to obsession? Do you tend to "merge" with others or your interests? How do you feel about the idea of doing this?

I am not sure if 'merging' is the correct word but I experience great joy from doing what I love, being in the moment, testing my skills and experiencing life. However, I wouldn't say that I can sacrifice my well-being for this. In the end, I want to DO things as in CREATE them more than experience them and to DO things you have to be in a normal condition. I am a result oriented person in the end.

18) Organized or messy? Plans and blueprints or impulse and surprises? What are you preferences and tendencies?

I am messy and I don't mind mess in others too. But in my projects, in my work, I can be more strategic, making lists and plans (though I usually change them with time, rarely sticking to the initial vision).Still, being spontaneous in my work energizes me more. I remember reading about japanese poets who engaged in 'linked verse' competitions basing their poetry on moods of the day, their current location, so on. I really admired them because in my opinion, it takes much more self control to deliver an impromptu masterpiece than edit a thing until it's polished like westerners do. When you deliver a painstakingly overcooked work it may be a masterpiece but if you deliver a quick and witty work then the masterpiece is YOU, whose self control is so great, whose senses are so trained you can produce a work as quickly as a sniper who hits its target.

19) How do you subjectively view comfort and how do you create comfort in your life and surroundings?

I don't produce comfort, I just find comfortable places to rest. I don't even feel as much discomfort as others - I have been known to sleep on uncomfortable beds and sit on uncomfortable chairs without whining (which makes others' claims of my 'pamperedness' especially surreal, as you can guess). The only comfort I need is silence - as long as it's quiet and peaceful, I am fine.


I am also open to more questions/questionnaires, this one was too philosophical and didn't capture my more easy going side, I think 🤔
 

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Tritype 145 seems most likely, possibly 1 core so/sx, or maybe 5.
 

io789

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Tritype 145 seems most likely, possibly 1 core so/sx, or maybe 5.
Ouch, I still can't get those accusations of being a 4 somewhere out of my system haha 😂 I never said I valued being unique? In fact, all I said proved otherwise, these talks of belonging, etc... Unless you think anyone who suffers = 4 I see no reason for a 4 anywhere I the tritype, only in the wings perhaps. Actually, enneagram wise I score 6 almost always but I am open to being 7,8 or 5. Or even 9 even though I am too confident for that. But not type 1. I don't even believe in perfection and I am very lenient with myself. Maybe I'll do another questionnaire because this one seemed preachy right? Yep, I stand by what I said but my views is a small part of me.
 

io789

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Keys2Cognition results

Cognitive ProcessLevel of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)

extraverted Sensing (Se) *********************************** (35.5)
good use

introverted Sensing (Si) ************************** (26.3)
average use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************** (22.6)
limited use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) ********************************************* (45.9)
excellent use

extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.7)
average use

introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************** (26.4)
average use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************* (13.5)

unused

introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************************* (43.7)

excellent use
 

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Luminous

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Ouch, I still can't get those accusations of being a 4 somewhere out of my system haha 😂 I never said I valued being unique? In fact, all I said proved otherwise, these talks of belonging, etc... Unless you think anyone who suffers = 4 I see no reason for a 4 anywhere I the tritype, only in the wings perhaps. Actually, enneagram wise I score 6 almost always but I am open to being 7,8 or 5. Or even 9 even though I am too confident for that. But not type 1. I don't even believe in perfection and I am very lenient with myself. Maybe I'll do another questionnaire because this one seemed preachy right? Yep, I stand by what I said but my views is a small part of me.
I could also see 3, but please keep in mind that with a type in your tritype that is not your core, it's going to be heavily filtered and influenced by your core and by your wing.

I'll go through and try to give you my thoughts, for whatever they're worth (I'm not perfect, and as you say, perhaps these questions aren't showing your full personality)...
Okay, I've changed my mind lol... I'm gonna guess you're a 6, though I'm still not sure. I've generally had a difficult time distinguishing 3 and 6, though I've gotten better. I think the 6 characteristics that overlap with 1 made me jump to 1 too quickly. You're not easy for me to type ;)

So I'd guess 6 core, not sure on wing. Likely 614 or 613. I just don't see enough 9 for that to be your gut fix, and 8 + 6 would be more reactive than I think you are? Though it is a possibility. Try not to take that 4 as an insult, it's mostly there because I don't see any 2, and I see more 4 than 3, though there's far more gut and head than heart triad in your answers. You're not as dry as I would expect from 136, and you identify with being an outcast, with the dark underbelly feel of the enneagram symbol, which is 4/5 (if you're 6w5, that could be accounted for by your wing...) None of the types are insults. They can all be healthy or unhealthy, and many of the self typed 4s online aren't really 4s, because there's a lot of misinformation out there about 4s.
 
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