Man, Jung's description of Introverted Intuitive type is brutal.

[Indigo Rodent]

[INTJ] - Jung's Description of the Introverted...

A verbatim excerpt taken from Chapter 10 of Carl Gustav Jung's work "Psychological Types" (1921): ============================================= (III) PECULIARITIES OF THE BASIC PSYCHOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS IN THE INTROVERTED ATTITUDE 8. Intuition Intuition, in the introverted attitude...

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Like there's this whole MBTI community Mastermind meme, but it sounds much more like inattentive ADHD than the stereotype.

 

[EcK]

yes

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

And his description is still 99% more accurate than any other description. They are space cadets.

 

[Indigo Rodent]

And his description is still 99% more accurate than any other description. They are space cadets.

Yeah. It seems that INTJ is like a darker and edgier version of INFP.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Yeah. It seems that INTJ is like a darker and edgier version of INFP.

I think that’s more accurate than the mastermind stereotype

 

[Indigo Rodent]

I think that’s more accurate than the mastermind stereotype

Yeah. Was mistyped for a long time because of the stereotype.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Yeah. Was mistyped for a long time because of the stereotype.

Meanwhile the ExTJs mistype themselves as INTJs

 

[Indigo Rodent]

Meanwhile the ExTJs mistype themselves as INTJs

Yeah, this too.

 

[Vendrah]

Its because the descriptions you are used to are overly sugarcoated. Just look at any SLOAN non-SCOAI and non-RLUEN for example, its more rounded when you are not sugarcoating it.

 

[Indigo Rodent]

Its because the descriptions you are used to are overly sugarcoated. Just look at any SLOAN non-SCOAI and non-RLUEN for example, its more rounded when you are not sugarcoating it.

It's possible Jung simply didn't have access to high-functioning Ni-doms to evaluate, though and all the ones he interviewed were highly dysfunctional.

INTJs are super prominent in Hollywood nowadays for some reason.

IMO Dario Nardi's work pretty much dethroned Jung.

 

[Vendrah]

It's possible Jung simply didn't have access to high-functioning Ni-doms to evaluate, though and all the ones he interviewed were highly dysfunctional.

INTJs are super prominent in Hollywood nowadays for some reason.

IMO Dario Nardi's work pretty much dethroned Jung.

Look, "its just because they are unhealthy route" to keep the optimism is a route that doesn't really sound like you, I don't need to "debunk it", right?

 

[Indigo Rodent]

Look, "its just because they are unhealthy route" to keep the optimism is a route that doesn't really sound like you, I don't need to "debunk it", right?

I'm not optimistic, he's simply wrong. He sees only a very narrow manifestation of introverted intuition accompanied by undeveloped other functions.

 

[highlander]

[INTJ] - Jung's Description of the Introverted...

A verbatim excerpt taken from Chapter 10 of Carl Gustav Jung's work "Psychological Types" (1921): ============================================= (III) PECULIARITIES OF THE BASIC PSYCHOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS IN THE INTROVERTED ATTITUDE 8. Intuition Intuition, in the introverted attitude...

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Like there's this whole MBTI community Mastermind meme, but it sounds much more like inattentive ADHD than the stereotype.

Jung's descriptions of the introverted intuitive have never really resonated with me. It sounds like a person who is a dominant introverted intuitive but has never developed a judging function to balance intuition. Also, the incessant talk of "images" - I don't see images so I don't get it. The way my intuition works is that I collect lots of different data points and then I connect the dots internally in my head. I have no idea how the process works but I can tell you it isn't centered on images at all. There is an "aha!" moment when an idea or perception comes to me. I have a high degree of confidence in these intuitions but have come to realize they are not infallible. I will tend to balance them against actual evidence and facts to the extent they are available. The whole idea that INTJs are "cranks" is also pretty distorted. 15% of senior executives of corporations are INTJs, which is way out of proportion to their percentage in the general population. You can say a lot of things about senior executives but the word "crank" doesn't come to mind. Think about some of the early leaders in the Dupont family as an example and you'll see INTJs as the pioneers that shaped the company and its products and STJs as the administrators that helped to expand it. The balance between the two types is what enabled them to continue developing new products while organizing and executing in an effective way.

 

[Indigo Rodent]

Think about some of the early leaders in the Dupont family as an example and you'll see INTJs as the pioneers that shaped the company and its products and STJs as the administrators that helped to expand it. The balance between the two types is what enabled them to continue developing new products while organizing and executing in an effective way.

Looking at them in wikipedia, all males look like ISTJs. You can see these Si eyes.

 

[highlander]

Looking at them in wikipedia, all males look like ISTJs. You can see these Si eyes.

I wouldn't put too much stock in painted portraits. I think there are a good measure of ISTJs, one notable ESTJ, one notable ESTP and several INTJs.

 

[Vendrah]

I'm not optimistic, he's simply wrong. He sees only a very narrow manifestation of introverted intuition accompanied by undeveloped other functions.

Dude, Jung is the guy who created the concept of "introverted intuition" lol.

 

[Indigo Rodent]

Dude, Jung is the guy who created the concept of "introverted intuition" lol.

Irrelevant. Plenty of people who created concept of something got it wrong. Jung's description is basically a rough draft. AFAIK Dario Nardi is most up to date expert on nature of functions.

 

[Vendrah]

Irrelevant. Plenty of people who created concept of something got it wrong. Jung's description is basically a rough draft. AFAIK Dario Nardi is most up to date expert on nature of functions.

For real?
I rather just spare you from the discussion cause I like you, have a merry christmas =)!

 

[Indigo Rodent]

For real?
I rather just spare you from the discussion cause I like you, have a merry christmas =)!

Do you think that Dari Nardi isn't an INTJ?

 

[Vendrah]

Do you think that Dari Nardi isn't an INTJ?

I am not into typing him, merry xmas!