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[Traditional Enneagram] KitchenFly's laboratory for the exploration of number patterns

KitchenFly

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What the hell, this is so ill-formed I could barely follow what you wrote. Or maybe it was just the fact that many of the points you made are so strange I found it hard to think you actually believe all of them. Still, it's not something I care to discuss. My point is that saying that Sp is adrenaline driven makes it sound like Sp-dom's have a ton of energy and are quite intense people who are always on the go. Not sure if that's what you mean but if it is, it's obviously inaccurate. Even saying that Sp automatically gives one more adrenaline doesn't make sense if you look at the very definition of it. Have you maybe scientifically proved that adrenaline, dopamine and serotonin are directly linked to the instincts? I think not.

It's not my work, I did not do the science, the science was done by The Enneagram Institute.

Maybe you think that they are simply a pack of silly people who no not the enneagram or how to conduct scientific enquiry.

My self I simply think you most likely are a newbie to seeking to understand the workings of the nine energies.

Let me give you a little helping hand. Mind is best thought of as if it were a one dimensional fractal hosted by greater nature via a one part that has three states, meaning gravity bark matter and dark energy may one thing that operates simultaneously in three different states as ice water and steam.

Three into three seems to get things working but things that work as six parts is also an interesting. The Six Astroid between Mars and Jupiter, the six moons that make up Pluto. The six sided storm face the sits on the North Pole of Saturn. The six points that reflect the operations of the instinctual variants.

When you start to recognise how the three and the six weave together as one mechanism different patterns than normally are talked about via the enneagram of personality begin to become recognisable.

These patters suggest to me that there maybe a one dimensional fractal hosting minds logos between your fingers all three parts are present dark energy, dark matter, and gravity. You are moving thought beep space at the speed of light while standing on a planet that is moving like a cork screw with all other eight planets around the sun as it to moves at the speed of light though a never ending sea of two kinds of microwaves one type that was formed from the Big Bang and the other from the decay of Sun's and all created after the Big Bang.

One energy three states and two forms of microwaves and the ever present boson field. It kind of reminds me again of three into three.

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Saturn's North Pole
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Pluto
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Astroid belts
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Gravity has three base speeds, 1, 4, and 9.

The enneagram, nine energies, via a two dimensional diagram has two directions. (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1).

The three divides Ego, Super ego, Id work mathematical with this structure. The puzzle has set fixed ratio divides six number value components that can be grouped as such 1-8, 4-5, 3-6 so as to equalise to the base component number value of nine component energies.

It is interesting that tree sets of six can be organised to reveal a set of Three equal sums values that in like equal the number value nine.

This clue of speed ratios from a primary finding relating to gravity's three acceleration speed ratio's seems to concisely link a three into three link between Id, Ego and Superego and possibly Gravity Dark Matter and Dark Energy.

The basic pattern that cleanly divides into an equal compete hole is a simple basic pattern.

It is instinctively understood quite easterly if approached from the stat point of Ego 3-7-8. Once measured out a sense of two steps draws Superego (6-1-2) and Id (9-4-5) together as if being a second equal matching hole as if a second structural step within the pattern, suggesting Point Three's dominance within the structure.

I shear this starting point for you and if you have the perspicacity to recognise the structure you most likely will be able sense that the steps may relate to two things, the forward and behind of our movement as we travel though space at the larger scale of Planets Solar systems and deep space and the two momentums of minds personality at the affective quantum levels of the extensive magnitude and intensive magnitude.

The affective causality influences upon our emotional and rational intelligences maybe influenced from something as simple at a big picture physics level as the endless ocean of Old Microwaves created from the Big Bang and the New Microwaves created from the decay of all created after the event of the Big Bang.

The three components gravity, dark matter, dark energy, and the old microwaves and newer microwaves operating in unison may make it posable for the enneagram to operate within the minds of living organisms that have complex brain structures.

This idea continues to intrigue me and continue to think about the possibility that gravity and dark matter and dark energy are three different phases of one energy phenomena. A strange energy that seems to be invisible as if it is a one dimensional phenomenon in each of its three states and a hole energy in another state fluid between quantum states.

The law of Three is a miraculous Thing.

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- The Philosopher's Zone - ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
 

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The discussion is far from being exhausted we have not addressed his instinctive mentality.

Ronald Trumps instinctive mentality is as all people divider as a multiplicity three by three.

Ego is played out via un conches though the three part three point ego structure Points: (8, 7, 3) though the hart centre.

Supper ego is played out via the sub conches though the three part three point Supper ego structure Points: (6, 2, 1) though the head centre.

ID is played out via the conches though the three part three point ID structure Points: (9, 4, 5) though the gut centre.

These three parts that work in a unison likened to a moving fractal are a trance personality motion in motion providing self with a fluidity of free will a self guided direction with auto direction for choices made.

To suggest that Donald Trump can be understood via four symbols of four letters ESTP alone is lazy phycology.

As an INFP one of things I see as a strong weekness within the venerability of the human condition is a lack of willingness to witness the hole structure the influences of negative and positive and neutral within the fluidity of minds operation.

Logic, abstraction, and sleep imagery are important to witness in order to gain a correct and accurate logos of subjective understanding into the human condition of the working mind.

Donald Trump is no more ESTP than he is ESFP or ESTP or ENTP or partly INFJ or partly INFP or partly ISFP or partly ISFP or partly INTP or partly INFTP.

So wake up and invest some attention into the parts of the game you refuse to focus your attention upon.
 

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Recently, I have been studying a few different enneagram sources (mostly for my leisure, and also to find out a few things about each type, and finding out some good indicators that maybe hint towards X type). Anyway, I have been reading about how similar 4sx can be (in a good few ways) to enneagram 8 and I have also read somewhere that 4 sx types "are better 8s than type 8s." I have a few questions regarding my findings:

  1. Do you guys (8s/4 sxs) agree with that phrase about the 4sxs being better 8s than 8s?
  2. Do you think too many people assume all 4s are 'melancholic' like the stereotype, and don't actually have much 'substance' outside those stereotypically boundaries when they really do?
  3. 8s, have you ever been mistyped as 4sx before?
  4. 4sxs, have you ever been mistyped as an 8 before?
  5. What is the best way to define the 'motivations' though both may act similar at times (from what I know)?

I'm genuinely curious to know what you guys think.
And if you've ever heard about these claims before.




5. The motivations are Lead via E because all four subtypes 4w3 4w5 8w9 8w7 are lead via E first in the action of there general motivations or overcompensating passion lead actions.

At the level of the subtypes there are multiple drives influenced via the wings one is mood lead and the other is agenda lead, this balance requires the focus of there dose the individual focused there attention (I or E) in defence automatic influence's in act,

- 4w3w5 , the three component is (I)STJ mood, five component is (I)NTP agenda.

- 4w5w3 , the five component is (I)NTFP mood, three is (I)STP agenda.

- 8w7w9 , the severn component is (E)SFP mood, nine is (I)NFP agenda.

- 8w9w7 , the nine component is (I)NFJ mood, Severn is (E)NTJ agenda.

There is more nuanced depth to be witnessed because a three into three action, is in action, underneath the personalities base actions, there is the the nine core energy point witch suit the Three instinct model perspective and the six instinctual subtype actions seperate separate that best suit the eighteen subtype level of the personalities actions. Core point energy, wing energy, wing energy (three parts). The Self that replaces the authentic self has Severn Parts, Core two subtype energy and two wing energies and two shadow wing subtype energies.

Do Ra Mi Fa So La Si and the authentic self "DO". It may be interesting to note the remaining six (RA ME FA SO LA SI) could be thought of as the six points in active at this injunction so to say, meaning.

Core: point nine, subtype energy 9w1w8 shadow subtype energy 9w8w1 wing 1w2w9 shadow wing 1w9w2 other wing 8w9w7 other shadow wing 8w7w9. Severn Parts (Do Ra Mi Fa So La Si).

Core Point energies remaining Point:1 Point:2 Point:3 Point:4 Point:5 Point:6 Point:7 and Point:9 maybe seen as the remainder unto Parts portions of the true self in part, (RA MI FA SO LA SI)

DO RA MI FA SO LA SI would be the authentic self a creation of Greater Nature Severn Parts is not nine parts so my thinking is that HOST is the the hosting Multiplicity. Like Points 3 & 6 and then the remaining Severn Points 1, 2 4, 5 7, 8 and Point:9.

The thought that to mind when thinking in this context multiplicity and Greater Nature and three into three is (Energy/Mass) , (Dark Energy) , (Dark Mater).

Energy/Mass (1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9), the physical cosmos so to say and and the Multiplicity (3 & 6) would be like (Dark Mater & Dark Energy).

Personality in the example above is like nine times eight equals seventy two Do Ra Mi Fa So La Si DO via nine Points. Two nines are eighteen - nine multiplicity within a structure of 90 parts add nine lots of six RA MI FA SO LA SI and that equals 72 +18 + 54 = 144.


Another thought that comes to mind and please be a wear I have no real knowledge about the structure of music, is that the six instinctual variants remind me of Three pairs of like multiplicities in this way,
So/Sp and Sx/Sp
Sx/So and Sp/So
Sp/Sx and So/Sx

All seem to be pairs like three coins with two sides so to say.

Another way I look at the same thing is like two complimentary 1/2 notes of the of the same false octave (do--Do) as in like do to Do

So/Sp and Sx/Sp ,. Si Point:8 and Fa Point:4
Sx/So and Sp/So ,. Si Point:5 and Ra Point:1
Sp/Sx and So/Sx ,. Mi Point:2 and La Point:7

8+4 , 5+1 , 2+7 = 27 a Two and a Severn again.

12 , 6 , 9 ,.

12 ("1+2") = "3" + 6 + 9 = 18

27 - 9 = 18 ,. The twelve termed into three leaving nine.

So/Sp (8) and So/Sx (7) = 15
Sx/So (5) and Sx/Sp (4) = 9
Sp/Sx (2) and Sp/So (1) =3

15 terns into 6

Now we have a 3 and a 6 and a 9

And a nine that was from 15 trending into 6.

So now we have to number values of nine like a multiplicity nine plus nine equals eighteen 18 "eighteen" (1+8) = 9

Wow like the triangle and three into three 3 & 9 and Point:9.

The hexad and the triangle.

27 and 18

Two and Severn one and eight.


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144 divided by 8 equals eighteen.

(do ra mi fa so la si Do)

Don Richard Riso designed his basic questionnaire with 144 questions.


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27 + 18 = 45

If we order the six numbers differently

1 & 2 & 4 & 5 & 7 & 8

We have the six pointed fig of the Hexad.
 

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I kinda respect your perspicacity in intuiting the lens you view via. So I'm going to suggest an interesting direction for your Dodecagram model.

Elections are at work within magnetism and the brain has lots of Magnetite biomineralization in the human brain.

At the electron level so to say the switch works in four for magnetism so it maybe posable to generate a hypothesis of for states four lenses. Add three Instincts and you have twelve.

No need to through little baby Jesus out with the bath water.

The cosmos has a multiplicity of systems working in unison young blade hooper. May the force work though you accurately.

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An Introduction to the Dodecagram
From the Perspective of the Enneagram

Introduction:
Classically speaking, the psychology and personality of a human being was
recognized and defined by a set of four distinct temperaments. The temperaments
themselves directly derived from the four classical elements, which were known to
compose everything in the changeable world; and the understanding that one element held a
predominate position over the others. This principle was understood to apply to everything
in the changeable world, ranging from material bodies like plants and animals to immaterial
bodies like the psyche and thought-forms.

The Enneagram of Personality was an, albeit incomplete, expansion upon the fundamentals
of personality understood in the ancient mystery schools of antiquity. My goal is to remedy
the information found within the Enneagram with classical wisdom. However, before I can
establish the comprehensive system I seek to replace the Enneagram with, it is paramount
that you, the reader, understand the specific constituents which form that system; it's
therefore necessary that I detail those constituents in a concise and accurate manner so that
you may be able to correctly understand what it is I'm trying to convey.

The Elements
: The Elements themselves are not literal, physical entities. They are
fundamental forces incapable of tangible sensation. It is through the mind that these
immutable forces are perceived. The physical entities used to represent them are purely
metaphorical, but are nevertheless accurate in their representation.

Human beings are profoundly affected by their elemental composition. The effects can be
seen in the process of their mental faculties, as distinguished by Jung when he formulated
his theory of cognitive functions, and they can be seen in the overall personality of an
individual. A individual's elemental composition is the quintessential defining force of his
or her individuality; it operates as the very foundation by which men and women alike
distinguish themselves from one-another.

A Description of the Elements:


Fire:
Fire is an active, masculine, force. It's fixed and unalterable. It most readily relates to
Will or Willpower. It forms, pushes, creates, moves, and acts upon something else. It
possesses a two-fold quality, being the spark of creation and simultaneously a force of
destruction. Jung attributed Fire to the Intuitive function.

Air:
Air, like fire, is an active, masculine force. Air is most readily related to intellect and
the realm of concepts and ideas. It facilitates knowledge and understanding, language and
communication. It acts as a mediator for Fire and Water, allowing for the harmonization of
these two complimentary, but opposite, forces. Jung attributed Air to the Thinking function.

Water:
Water is a passive, feminine, force. Antithetical to Fire, Water is a changeable,
malleable substance; it morphs and shapes to the form it's given. Water most readily relates
to emotions and feminine qualities. It's volatile, conforming, indecisive, gentle, and
sensitive. Water, like Fire, possesses a two-fold nature of creation and dissolution. Jung
attributed Water to the Feeling function.

Earth:
Earth, like water, is a passive, feminine force. Like Air, Earth facilitates the
harmonization of the Fire and Water elements. However, where Air is free forming and
expansive, Earth is rigid and absolute. Earth most readily relates to solidification and
material form. It's the crudest, and densest of the four Elements, with Fire being the least
dense. Everything relating to physical sensation originates from this element. Jung
attributed Earth to be the Sensing function.

A Metaphor:

Consider the scenario of a Blacksmith forging a sword:
In the Blacksmith's mind is an ideal form of the object he desires to create, in this case a
sword. He begins by heating metal to the point where it becomes malleable. When the
metal becomes malleable, he molds and shapes it in conformity to his desires(will). The
resulting sword is an inherently flawed physical manifestation of the conceptually perfect
form of a sword.

The conceptual, ideal, form of a sword is analogous to the principle of Air.
The physical metal and sword is analogous to the principle of Earth.
The malleable state of the metal is analogous to the principle of Water.
The shaping and conforming of the metal to the Blacksmith's will is analogous to the principle of Fire.

Tria Prima:
Known as the law of 3, the Tria Prima is an Alchemical
understanding and formula which aids an Alchemist in his attainment of the Philosopher's
Stone. The elements which compose the Tria Prima are Sulfur, Mercury, and Salt. These elements
work in tandem with the Classical Elements, and like the Classical Elements, these
elements are not indicative of the literal substances they're named after, but the
metaphysical forces they describe.

According to Paracelsus, Sulphur represents the soul and the omnipresence of life. It's
considered to be the binding agent of the universe. Mercury represents the spirit and is
considered to act a mediator for the transformative process and facilitator of the higher self
and the lower self. Salt is the physical body and base matter. Paracelsus gives the analogy
of burning wood to describe these three elements. The fire itself and its flammability was
attributed to Sulfur. The smoke related to Mercury, in it's fusibility, and the resulting ash
was equated to Salt. In other words, Sulfur is an active, pro-generative force, Mercury is a
counter-active destructive force, and Salt is the begotten preservative force derived from
the intercourse of the Sulfuric and Mercurial principles; hence the esoteric analogy to the
Father, Mother and Child. For our purposes, however, we only need to understand the gross
meaning of the forces being described.

In the context of the Dodecagram: Sulfur represents the pure, volatile, and active types.
Mercury represents the refined, counteractive types. And Salt represents the mellowed,
balanced, solidified types.

Forging the Dodecagram:
Before unifying these three seemingly separate concepts into a
single system, it must be well understood and accepted that the Enneagram is a helplessly
incomplete system. As it stands now, the Enneagram does little more than inhibit students
from fully realizing the legitimate forces of personality. It leads them to speculate about
unimportant things like behaviors, motivations, and exaggerate over general terms like
“innocence”, “survival”, “envy”, “pride”, “apathy”, etc.

The Dodecagram:

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In answering the necessity for a system which incorporates and founds itself upon Perennial
wisdom, the Dodecagram is established. Unlike the Enneagram, the Dodecagram does not
limit or hinder Traditional beliefs. It allows for the full incorporation and synthesization of
ancient knowledge.

the four centers of intelligence necessarily become:
Will(Fire) - 8,9,1
Intellect(Air) - 7,6,5
Emotion(Water) - 4,3,2
Sensorium(Earth) - 11,12,10

With the Dodecagram established, opposition is present and the polarity of the elements is
clearly reflected.

Fire opposite to Water, Air opposite to Earth.
8 opposite to 2, 9 opposite to 3, 1 opposite to 4.
5 opposite to 11, 6 opposite to 12, 7 opposite to 10 .

Complimentary Types:

8 – 4, 9 – 3, 1 – 2
5 – 10, 6 – 12, 7 – 11

Tria Prima and the Centers of Intelligence:
With the Dodecagram and the Classical
Elements established within it, it becomes necessary to exhibit the subtle differences
between the fixations of any given center of intelligence, through the knowledge of the Tria
Prima.

The Sulfuric Types:
2,5,8,11. Embody the volatile essence underlying their respective
center of intelligence.

The Mercurial Types:
1,4,7,10. Embody the refined counteractive essence of their respective
center of intelligence.

The Crystalline Types:
3,6,9,12. Embody a mellowed, more solidified essence of their respective
center of intelligence.

Sulfur
– Masculine force / Father

Mercury
– Feminine force / Mother

Salt –
Androgynous force / Child

Note: The following are metaphors to accentuate the subtle nuances between each type.


Fire center of Intelligence:

8: A spontaneous explosive, like black powder.
1: An Enduring flame, like a furnace.
9: Smoldering ash.
Water Center of Intelligence:
2: A Tsunami, powerful and abrupt.
4: Turbulent waves, waxing and waning.
3: A stream, constantly in motion.
Air Center of Intelligence:
5: A Tornado, consuming everything in its path, bridging the heavens with the Earth.
7: A breeze, flowing wherever it leads.
6: Static air, discomforted by change.
Earth Center of Intelligence:
11: Granite, blunt. A devastating rock slide.
10: Wet mud or tar, calm; not easily disturbed.
12: Dirt or soil, protective.

Conclusion:
The Enneagram is an adequate introductory tool to facilitate self knowledge,
but it falls short at piercing past the egotistic facade innate to mankind. Proper
understanding and inevitable mastery of the elements is the most essential task for those
who truly desire to "know thyself".
 
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One of the big mystery's physics seeks to understand is why the dark energy number has 122 zeros before finally arriving at a number value of 138.

When thinking about this number it is important to have two things in mind. 1) There is a universe and an anti-universe and 2) the Cosmic Microwave Background is so cold it operates at the quantum level and the rules of math may have some additional rule so to say.

For some back ground watch this video link:



Dark energy number.



.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000138





What if the rules are different as you approach the quantum level it would not be cheating to expand the rules of applying mathematics.





So is this the answer to the puzzle?



Dark Energy Number.122 Zero in front of the 138 in the Dark Energy Number can be thought to be found in the (CMB) temperature range.​

-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​

Lets pretend there is a third implicate math that works via the quantum realm though the number zero. Each counting number on a number line has a power of one and a base of one and both of those one's for each number belongs to the zero on the Cartesian plain. Ok so lets look at these numbers with an idea in mind that has two sets of rules.​

Rule one: A number viewed from the hundred's Colum must be counted three times as if it has the same count in the ten's Colum and the units Colum.​

A number viewed in the ten's Colum must be counted two times as if it has the same count in the ten's Colum as if in the units Colum. And the unit's are counted once.​

Rule two: Any number/ numbers on the other side of the decimal point is are treated differently. They are simply added to create a sum tally number.​

Apply rule one and rule two:​

-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 3 = 3 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 3 + 6 = 29) Twenty nine zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 4 = 4 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 4 + 6 = 30) Thirty zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 5 = 5 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 5 + 6 = 31) Thirty one zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 6 = 6 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 6 + 6 = 32) Thirty two zero's.​

29 + 30 + 31 + 32 = 122​

Have you found the 38?



2 7 3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



Two sets of 19 Boundaries Off Creation.


2 7 3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



_ _ 3. _ _

2 7 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



_ _3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

2 7 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



_ _3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

2 7 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



I have been thinking about this number pattern for eight mouths now after I worked it out and have had many interesting ideas. There are correlations to be found within this number pattern to be found for the perspicacious thinker. Think about the standard model quarts and parts and you will be surprised to see the count fits perfectly.


These correlations will be most helpful as we begin to map or quantum biology and remember mind is a quantum biological driven mechanism. Under pinning the eighteen egoic mind sets is a quantum order. The making of the law of three within is an action of awaking self to self's own quantum biology.
 

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When I was four years old there were two things I wanted to know. Not knowing a name for these two things the question was. How dose mind work and what is this that I am stuck in (The universe) the world how dose it work? These were two big questions that came from the trauma of my unity transforming. A new receptivity unto three different energies within another that was pulpable like an organic memory hard drive drawn upon by the individual to aid in there own survival as they move forward living.

I wont go into the story I wrote about it two decades ago on The Enneagram Institute Discussion Boards. I touch upon it to let the reader know that this discovery I am shearing insights about began fifty years ago when I was four years old.

Kids think deeply about life and self but they don't have the logos of language to communicate in words and we as adult's have not reconnected with the deeper unity within that allows communication via the quantum biology faculties of mind.

All above is natural and highlights work needs to be done to bridge the gap between infant / youngsters and egoic mind set developed adults.

This is a difficult topic to talk about so I am just going to put forward the logical components of my work. My approach is treat the hunt like a doing a jigsaw puzzle look for peace's and keep them in mind.

This find all started in about 2007 when I watched a science magazine show that was on and still is on Australian Tv call Catalyst. The program was addressing a question about Dark Energy, physics scientists could not answer. Why is the measurement number accurately measured, for Dark Energy, so small. A decimal point and then 122 zero's before finally a 138.

This question puzzled me and I saw a link between the 138 part of the number and carbon the enneagram and eight mater genes. A like is carbon based and all living creatures are made in eight sections via eight Master Genes. It all seemed quite abstracted but I recorder and posted my thought even though I new most would right it of as wish full abstract thinking. I would rather be labeled a fool and a crack pot then sit back and not shear my strange new ideas.

Well last Christmas December 2020 I was thinking about why I wanted to go back to University and complete my Math 1720 prerequisite to do real study and I thought about anti matter and matter and the enneagram and 19 Boundaries of Creation and thought two lots of nineteen equals 38 and I recalled back in 2000 I was looking for a link in nature that would have 144 parts and looked at the (CMB) Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation left over from the Big Bang / Big Explanation. I remembered back then the number I found was 122 not 144 and that 38 I thought was in there and that two 19 equaled 38 but in 2000 I did not know about the Anti Universe so It did not twig to me that a link existed. I had some colourful ideas about eight sets of 19 parts but it did not really gel as being real at a mechanical level of a working mechanism linked to the enneagram and nature. So I let it go at the time.

I revisited the (CMB) constant and sore the four sets of nineteen and thought wow these four rows of temperature's reminds me of time moving in two directions, up and down, left and right, backwards and forwards.


-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​

 

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Dark energy number.




.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000138





What if the rules are different as you approach the quantum level it would not be cheating to expand the rules of applying mathematics.





So is this the answer to the puzzle?



Dark Energy Number.122 Zero in front of the 138 in the Dark Energy Number can be thought to be found in the (CMB) temperature range.​

-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​

Lets pretend there is a third implicate math that works via the quantum realm though the number zero. Each counting number on a number line has a power of one and a base of one and both of those one's for each number belongs to the zero on the Cartesian plain. Ok so lets look at these numbers with an idea in mind that has two sets of rules.​

Rule one: A number viewed from the hundred's Colum must be counted three times as if it has the same count in the ten's Colum and the units Colum.​

A number viewed in the ten's Colum must be counted two times as if it has the same count in the ten's Colum as if in the units Colum. And the unit's are counted once.​

Rule two: Any number/ numbers on the other side of the decimal point is are treated differently. They are simply added to create a sum tally number.​

Apply rule one and rule two:​

-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 3 = 3 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 3 + 6 = 29) Twenty nine zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 4 = 4 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 4 + 6 = 30) Thirty zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 5 = 5 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 5 + 6 = 31) Thirty one zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 6 = 6 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 6 + 6 = 32) Thirty two zero's.​

29 + 30 + 31 + 32 = 122​

Have you found the 38?



2 7 3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



Now the are four sets of 38. Two sets of 19 Boundaries Off Creation. The idea is one 19 Boundaries Off Creation for the universe and one set of 19 Boundaries Off Creation for the anti universe. Fit nicely on the left side of the decimal point.



2 7 3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



_ _ 3. _ _

2 7 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



_ _3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

2 7 5. _ _

_ _ 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38



_ _3. _ _

_ _ 4. _ _

_ _ 5. _ _

2 7 6. _ _



2 = 6

7 = 14

3 = 3

4 = 4

5 = 5

6 = 6



The number values: 6 + 14 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 38
 

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So that works nicely and if the reader adds the number: 2 + 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 from the number pattern above the sum of 27 can be found twenty seven parts and again in four configurations as like the 19 Boundaries Off Creation component.


As advanced enneagram students well know the number twenty seven is interesting because there are nine energies and three instincts and at the beeper level all nine energies are linked to the three instincts and we have the 27 type model of the enneagram with three instincts. It woks if you have active the law three within and are experiencing the no trance trace of nondual conches ness which is a fancy way of saying you have activated the quantum biological receptive part of minds functionality, You have one foot in the sub conches and and foot still in your egoic mind set.

Most people are not that healthy including me in the present moment I currently operate at the tear less connected to essences better nature at the level of six instinctual variants and eighteen egoic mind sets. Witch is good if the self has a health understanding of self and the human condition.

So there is something new for you to think about. I have been thinking about this number pattern for eight nine mouths now and have had some very interesting ideas.

I found that in the standard model of Practical Physics at the level the Quart,. of the colour quarts, within the atom each atom there are three quarts this is known by most people who are interested in such things and the idea that the three quarks and the three Instincts maybe linked is also an idea that has been sheared between enneagram thinkers but what is interesting is all the quarts in the form of there spins,. Spin zero, Spin 1/2, Spin 1 added fits just right as like the 27 and the two sets of 19. And on just the other side of the decimal point 1+5 = 6 works just nice for M theory because it has five maths that go into a sixth math making six Parts the six part model of M Theory. And 1 + 5 is interesting when looking at the direction of rotation of Pluto's six moons size component planet bodies/ moons. Five spin clock wise and one spins anti clock wise. Reminds me of the six instinctual variants and the nature of the Social Sexual variant instinct how it seems so different emotionally from the other five Instinctual Variants. Remember to acknowledge that all those six moon size objects are made of atoms and the atoms are made of smaller quantum parts just like Earth and the rest of the solar system and galaxy and larger universe of objects.

I am a INFP 9w1w8 1221 D type 9w1 5w6 4w5 Sx/sp, so as you can see my Instinctual variant is focused towards seeking a metaphysical quantum connection with the an understanding of the expiscate and implicate order. The Sx instinct is not all about Sex its actually more about a metaphysical quantum connection with the world and others. That's my say and I will leave it at that I am not interested in getting into an argument with the enneagram scholars who draft typologies and set the standard of understanding. Now back on track with the subject.

The Idea is to look for clues as to the maniacal order at the quantum level underpinning creation the known universe.

My model is best thought of as being a simple count of parts with in a number pattern that is related to a constant of nature,. Temperature. The hidden math is the puzzle of the terrain mass and energy only make up about 5% of the universe and its the other 95% I am thinking about and it is invisible to the naked eye our only attachment to its implicate order is via our connection to our own quantum biology and its workings and I believe it is important to reach an epoch were most or all humans have activated there law of three within via the primary school system at the age of 10 in grade 4-5. But my goal is not to get all political but to demonstrate that I have put much thought into this line of thinking since I woke my self up to activating the law of three in me when I was in primary school in grade 5 and enjoyed the energy for three years until I allowed the energy focus to diminish into the back ground to be forgotten.

I will post my realisation the order of the count of quarts and spins in a few days on this topic page when I am in the mood to re think it though the rest should be simple enough for you to work in your own mind. Just keep in mind that all suggested is suggested to be taking place at the quantum level were the temperatures are different at the Quantum Level things behave differently it is said by those who study such physics.

I am not a math scholar or a physics scholar just a layman seeking a large understanding about how it work mind and the universe that host it and us as a collective.

Here are to links that may assist the reader.

Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation - Sixty Symbols​




Custom Universe​




Quantum Field Theory visualized​




Is there an Anti-Universe? - Neil Turok​




Now that you have viewed the video Is there an Anti-Universe? - Neil Turok we can take an other look at the number pattern from a more classical count perspective more simple count but equally abstract as with the new two rules I suggest maybe real.

The Idea here is the Anti-Universe could be the Red 27 or the Black 27. And that there are four different mixes, again:


Four tears:

1. -273.15 Absolute Zero

2. -274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.

3. -275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.

4. -276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.




1. Time,
2. X,
3. Y,
4. Z.

Or

1. [time traveling in two directions]

2. [up , down]

3. [left , right]

4. [back , forwards]



Below are four simple patterns you could make it more complex and mix it up more to create larger pattern that may contain patterns of real connection. At this stage it is an explorational idea a lateral thinking idea looking for twenty seven parts or twenty seven unit placings within a pattern to indicate possible real structure within the working of the quantum realm of Creation the Universe. If Gravity, Dark Matter and Dark Energy are three states of the one energy and Temperature and Absolute Zero as four part unites all three as one then this model below could be of great value to Methanations and Physicists and Metaphysicians and philosophers seeking to further understand the universe at its implicate order. The 27 comes from Nine energies each having three Instincts connected to each making twenty seven possible basic patterns at a deeper implicate below eighteen egoic mind sets and six instinctual variants.



In Black: 2+ 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
In Red: 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 =27

2 7 3​

2 7 4​

2 7 5​

2 7 6​

In Black: 2+ 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
In Red: 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 =27

2 7 3​

2 7 4​

2 7 5​

2 7 6​

In Black: 2+ 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
In Red: 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 =27

2 7 3​

2 7 4​

2 7 5​

2 7 6​

In Black: 2+ 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
In Red: 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 =27

2 7 3​

2 7 4​

2 7 5​

2 7 6​

 
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Apply rule one and rule two:​

-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 3 = 3 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 3 + 6 = 29) Twenty nine zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 4 = 4 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 4 + 6 = 30) Thirty zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 5 = 5 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 5 + 6 = 31) Thirty one zero's.​

2 = 6 Zero's, 7 = 14 Zero's, 6 = 6 Zero's, (decimal point) 1 + 5 = 6. -273.15 (6 + 14 + 6 + 6 = 32) Thirty two zero's.​

29 + 30 + 31 + 32 = 122​





Thanks to Leron Borsten for giving us that explanation in less 100 words.


So 1 + 5 = 6

D = 1+9

Another 1 + 5 = 6 Can be found in our Solar system Pluto and its five moons. Pluto and four of its five moons spin in the clockwise direction and one moon spins in the anticlockwise direction. Shore there are large rocks in space on an odd orbit around the Sun,. that's true but they are also six masses of Atoms and also six giant cloud of quantum parts doing there thing. Three things at once. That is how I like to think of them as objects. We think of Gravity and mass as being linked but what about an idea like Dark Matter and atoms and Dark energy and quantum parts. All three tears operating at different temperature's at the same time. Synergetic structures. Perhaps.

This video link stems from NASA and its research into Pluto when it flue a probe past it some years back not long ago.




one of the first thought I had when I sore this scaled model of Pluto was I reminds me of the Helix the six pointed fig on the enneagram symbol. The moon Nix spinning in an anti clock wise direction reminded me of the unique properties the sensitivity of the Social Sexual instinctive variant instinctual type one of six instinctual variant types. If as mentioned above Gravity Dark Matter and Dark Energy and Temperature link all objects together within the solar system It maybe possible that Pluto and the six instinctual variants are linked at the mechanical level of how this operate like organic life animals with instincts made from mass energy atoms and quantum parts.

I have match an order that makes sense to me here are two matchings see what you think the order of the six maybe. They are six object that seem to behaving separately and as one. Its an Idea nothing concrete about it I seek to find peace's of the jigsaw puzzle and it would be amazing if this correlation was correct. Simply one more Nobel Prize to sit on my Tv to look at when the advertainments are running. a-ha i remember why I won that Nobel prize that's the Pluto one.

1. Pluto: Sp/So
2. Charon:
3. Styx:
4. Nix: So/Sx
5. Kerberos:
6. Hydra:


The enneagram has nine points. The enneagram also has The Absolute Model within its construct. We can now add the 54 because 18 multiplied three time = 54 and on the left side of the decimal point the unit values sum to: 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 54. ( 5 + 4 = 9 )


Three lines joining each line with a number value of nine nine at each of its two ends.

The inner triangle of The Absolute.



--------------------------------------- 9 ----- 9






---------------------- 9 -------------------------------------- 9
-
-------------------------
9 ------------------------------- 9




https://www.scribd.com/document/247174688/Russell-Smith-Cosmic-Secrets

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Now to find the two sets of twenty seven for Side: A. -18 egoic mind sets and six instinctual variants and three instincts. 18 + 6 + 3 = 27

Side B. Nine energies with three Instincts. 9 times 3 = 27 use the same measurements. Just a side note. At this temperature a behaves things behave via the rule of quantum mechanics. And mind can not be separated from its own quantum biology. Hence the two sides of the coin 27 on each side is important. If an individual wants to find were in the universe the enneagram may operate from.



-273.15 Absolute Zero​

-274.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at One degree above Absolute Zero.​

-275.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Two degrees above Absolute Zero.​

-276.15 Cosmic Microwave Background at Three degree above Absolute Zero.​



Ok to excavate the two sets of twenty seven don’t follow rule A and B this time. We use a different rule remembering the rules of math at the quantum level may be very different as the geometry of creation.



Simply add 2 + 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27

and

Simply add 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 = 27


Four different ways:


273.​

274.​

275.​

276.

2 + 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 = 27



273.​

274.​

275.​

276.

2 + 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 = 27


273.​

274.​

275.​

276.

2 + 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 = 27


273.​

274.​

275.​

276.

2 + 7 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 27
2 + 7 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 7 = 27
 
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