- Apr 25, 2007
- MBTI Type
I'm not angry, I'm just really exasperated. This has been building for a while now. Months. Every time an interesting man is bandied about as a potential INFP other types are quick to snap him up because he's too structured or too dry or too dark or whatever...
Why did it just cut off almost all of my post? My lengthy, cross-referenced, brilliantly coherent post? The remainder of which I just lost when my system mysteriously crashed seconds after replying?
*searches for appropriate smilie*
Dammit, there's no "slash your wrists" smilie.
I will endeavour to rewrite a doubtless half-assed, dispirited version of my rhetorical masterpiece.
How about the more personal, values-directed Fi-Ne humour? For example, I think Simpsons is often very value-oriented. It's funny because you know it's so wrong. It's so wrong because it knows what's right.
Yeah, people don't seem to recognize jaded INFPs for what they are. Sometimes the most cynical people are the frustrated idealists. But when they learn to accept that life is hardly ideal (which starts with an examination of your own inabilities to live up to your values), they are often surprisingly unembittered about it all. Which I think Pratchett demonstrates admirably.
And I had no idea English wasn't your first language. Communicating in a non-native language would be pretty frustrating for an INFP.
Slowly getting converted to the possibility of Pratchett being INFP too. I'm reading "A hat full of sky" now, and see what you mean, JJJ (and I think Fortunato said something about his humor being more value oriented than logic oriented.)
The part I was thinking about specifically was one of the "witch" books he wrote, and I was recalling the pages from one of the witch's perspectives. It was just very personal, like the reader was immersed inside her skin, and I think it was limited third-person narrative. An INTP could write that way if other functions besides just TiNe were developed, but you're more apt to see that style approach done well from an INF.
<arguments for Johnny Depp as INFP>
Since JJJ is taking the lead on this argument, I'll just say that I agree with him about Johnny Depp. Depp strikes me as an INFP.
Depp has always injected his roles with a whimsicality that INFPs like to play with (and that INTPs seem to dislike). There's a little whimsicality in his serious roles (facial tics and the like), and a lot of whimsicality in his not-so-serious roles (drunk, gay pirate in "Pirates of the Caribbean").
I don't know why you see his writing style as so FJ. And what do you mean by "very tightly structured"? What is the nature of this structuredness to which you refer? They did not strike me that way at all. The articles I read centred around personal anecdotes, chronologically arranged, which strikes me as by far the preferred method of INFP communication. And would you consider INTPs unlikely to be able to produce similar levels of structure to those in the article? If not, then why could an INFP not manage likewise?
And which INFP writings are you referring to?
I arrived in New York City late, somewhere around 11.30 p.m., from Europe. With just enough jet lag to keep my peepers wide open for one too many hours - my brain crowded with the threat of Mr. Sun's arrival, knowing that soon he'd nudge me out of my snooze and into the world. I shut my eyes tight with the hope that he might be tardy.
Woke up the following morning - or rather, a couple of hours later - with a very prompt Mr. Sun stabbing through the black protection of my eyelids. The rotten bastard had found me.
I pitched and tossed and turned and spun - doing my best to avoid him - until I just couldn't take it anymore. I forced the heavy lids up and open and stared the eyeballs straight into the beastly light. I dunked my face into the pot of hot coffee and dove out the window and thus began the day. Things to do... Up. Awake. Onward. Forward.
I made my way downtown to St. Mark's Place to a bookstore of the low-down, the lowbrow, the bohemian, the subterranean-counterculture-drop-out types. My mission - to get my paws on some fine literature suitable for... well, you'll find out. First and foremost, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by the good doctor himself, Dr. Hunter S Thompson - a must for anyone and everyone... especially anyone in need of a serious excursion from their four walls. Second on the list, Tarantula by Bob Dylan - we need say nothing about him or his genius. Third, Kerouac - anything at all by ol'Jack... On The Road being the Bible. And why not throw in a little taste of Burroughs and Ginsberg while I'm at it.
Disagree. The following is a journal entry by someone I am quite sure is an INTX (and at the very least, is most certainly not a sensor). Fairly similar style.Note that the writing is very Sensing. It is about what he is doing. How the sun affects his eyes. What he does next. SPs are the majority of actors, musicians, and novelists. They are supurb at painting a vivid picture of the sensation surrounding. Sight, taste, smells, etc. This is what Johnny Depp does. Read more of his writing than this, and you'll see that he writes most often in the present and uses sensing speech. Like "why not throw in a little taste..". And he paints vivid pictures of surroundings.
Good writing has a root in the concrete. He's not an S just 'cause he's a good writer.Why birds are frightening
Have you ever stayed up all night, only to be dismayed at the merry chirping outside of your window heralding the coming day? It happens to me more than I care to admit. Simply put, no decent, god-fearing creature should be up at 4AM. Particularly not merrily chirping. So clearly, birds don't fear god. The only practical reason not to fear somebody with as many deaths under their belt as god is because you feel confident that you could take him on. So we come to the astonishing conclusion that birds are more powerful than god. So what we have here is a creature more powerful than god, with a brain that maxes out at peanut size, with the disposition and the willingness to chirp maliciously at 4AM every day. And THAT is why birds are frightening.