Probably more a â€œsceneâ€ or a symptom of culture. Likely not some mass, highly organized conspiracy. I think most so called conspiracies are usually more often coincidences arising from general cultural trends.
Certain patterns and coincidences arise but people want to interpret them as indicative of some insidious master plan. Itâ€™s not always that simple.
They were connected in the loosest way possible.
I JUST fininished watching the Netflix documentary and I've been listening to the "Ultimate Evil". My conclusions are thus:
1) It was more of a scene than any sort of clandestine conspiracy. It seems like a lot of these individuals frequented the same social circles but I don't think there is some grand-pooba-Santanic cult trying to reave chaos all over the country
2) I think the evidence presented about David Berkowitz not working alone however was well done and I think seems quite compelling. The discussions I'm finding online about this are quite interesting
I would agree with that, although if there are people conspiring or plotting to certain ends its unlikely to be a single conspiracy and I think if these separate plots just happen to overlap it can look like some over arching grand conspiracy which isnt really happening.
Like watching the documentary on Son of Sam what I was struck by was there were a bunch of really criminal, sadistic types, there was a lot of money involved too, people making snuff movies, people peddling pornographic material, a lot of drugs being dealt and I think these guys where exploiting these weird cultural trends to groom and recruit people or dupe people.
I also think there were a lot of these mad gurus and clever types applying a lot of manipulation just at a moment when people were susceptible to it. The fictionalized accounts of Manson in Mindhunter suggest that's the case. One of the Manson Family killers in it said that they thought Manson was this little guy who cultivated this weird, crazy, scary persona because in the world he's chosen to inhabit he'd be bottom of the heap otherwise.
Plus Manson was considerably older than most of his followers. Most of them were young and impressionable. Manson the failed folk singer probably carried a certain aura that appealed to them in their drug addled states.
Truth is I think there's something in all humans that likes being scandalized and longs for the permission to be set free. In any repressive society there's going to be outliers to try to prey upon that basic human drive and twist it towards their own ends. And given how it seems most folk have an inborn need to not be percieved as outliers themselves, the worm just keeps turning. Ouroboros. The machine grinds on...
As Tim Curry Sings the human condition:
Hey personally I'd love to believe that it was all spiritual possessions, monsters wearing people skin, or some kind of horrible supernatural conspiracy...because then it wouldnt just be what we are...
I do think there's a drive to be free, I do think some people repress it in themselves and suppress it socially or culturally but I'm not sure if its the same thing as you're talking about.
I do think that people do believe the whole supernatural evil exhonourates or excuses all merely human evil, I think that could be why criminals say they've been possessed or that they were temporarily insane etc. Although the idea of human, all too human evil being the necessary and sufficient explanation is catching on too.
I mean....it's not like his followers that are still alive/incarcerated haven't like discussed this with anyone in the 50 years since. And they all pretty much say exactly ^^ this.
No I don't think this was like Project Mayhem/Fight Club nor do I think it's some grand conspiracy. I think it had much more to do with the time than anything else - there was a lot going on all at once, very easy to manipulate young people. I think Children of God is far worse than the Manson family, and it started around the same time. Rose McGowan was born into that cult - it may explain a lot.
I don't see parallels to the Son of Sam murders. But I think it's plausible David Berkowitz didn't act alone.