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    Recently I posted a thread that explains my understanding of the 4 functions and how I see them being manifested in me: Type me on my response to reality?

    In addition to that, I decided to post a simpler thread, to expand upon what has already been said.

    At work: I dislike monotonous repetitive work, and prefer to do something creative and unconventional instead. Even though I have an office job, I tend to jump at every opportunity to do something new and out-of-line-with-daily-responsibilities. Most of that creativity tends to flow into improving the quality and speed of my team. I like revising/re-writing work guidelines, reshaping the office environment, implementing new solutions/ideas into the workflow. Since I tend to be very meticulous with details, I spend a lot of time perfecting and fleshing-out my improvements, so that even a 5-year old child could understand them.
    However, rather than just sitting in the office, I'd prefer to spend the majority of my time on business trips. The weird thing is that I used to be a homebody most of my life, rarely leaving the limits of my house or street, but when it comes to work/business, I want to travel and represent my company out in the world at large.

    Socially: I am extremely reserved and introverted. I tend to avoid engaging people, until I've spent enough time observing them and figuring out their method of communication, their behavior, their "rough" sides, and sides which I would consider interesting. In other words, I need to calculate/figure out a person from a distance, before I am willing to engage with him. As soon as I feel like I have all the necessary information about my social environment, I can easily turn from reserved/shy into bossy/patronizing. Once the social environment has been fully "identified" by me on both a conscious and subconscious level, I eventually proceed towards establishing "my order" in it, by placing people into categories of morality/skills/taste/intellect, and then gently trying to push everyone in a direction which I consider they should be directed towards. (you could say I determined the overall utility of every person, and am compelled to push him/her into a direction where such utility is needed, regardless whether that utility is of professional, emotional, or of any other kind.)

    Visually: I tend to place a lot of emphasis on how I look, and in particular, a lot of emphasis on the quality/luxuriousness/uniqueness of the clothes I wear. I have a fairly conservative style when it comes to fashion, but I spend a lot of time matching cloth fabrics, colors, etc. to ensure that I'm seen as not simply someone who likes expensive clothes, but also as someone who knows how to wear expensive clothes.
    About 95% of my time I tend to have either a neutral or "angry" (as many people tell me) expression on my face. Although, I refuse to acknowledge that expression as "angry", as I'm simply trying to stay focused and vigilant in every situation, even if I'm just taking a walk in the park. However, my focus and vigilance doesn't have to be necessarily devoted just to my physical environment. A lot of it is also directed towards solving problems in my head.
    Whenever I walk, I try to keep my back straight, and my shoulders wide. When standing, I tend to cross my arms a lot and place my feet a bit wide (again, maybe a bit of a bossy demeanor, but it makes me feel "proper" and confident that way)

    When I speak: I often switch between "not being able to put 2 words together without stuttering" to "giving an eloquent 2-hour lecture on international law, military equipment, web-design, management strategies, or new IT technologies". I still have no idea how can I be so bad at speech in one situation, and so good at speech in another. They are like 2 opposite extremes. But I experience both on a daily basis. I think the stuttering/broken speech phenomenon happens when I'm pushed into a conversation which requires a lot of improvisation (which I was unable to prepare mentally for in advance.) But if the conversation is something I had expected prior, or if it touches upon a subject I'm knowledgeable about, people tend to gasp and complement my eloquence.

    General communication: I prefer to mostly discuss very specific subjects, and am horrible at casual chit-chat. I will discuss work, hobbies, literature, art, IT, politics, philosophy, etc. and will always lead the conversation when I do so. But when it comes to casual non-topic specific subjects, I always take a back seat and barely say a word.
    If I'm confident/secure enough around the person I communicate with, I tend to have an extremely sharp tongue, control the conversation, play word games, troll around in a very smug manner. Those who know me for a long time enjoy it, but new acquaintances find it offensive and hostile.

    Megalomania and power-games: I am extremely attuned to the wave-lengths of "power" in social exchange. I can easily tell who projects power, and who is the "underling" in any group and situation. And I can instantly tell whether someone is trying to dominate me or place himself/herself below me and under my power. Being so attuned to "power-games", I tend to enter them instantaneously within any interaction. So, let's say, if a new manager at work shows up, or a new attractive girl appears, the first bells that are set off in my mind are: "If he holds a higher position in the company, he poses [these] and [these] threats and utilities to me." or "If she's so attractive and confident about it, she could try to use those traits as weapons to achieve ulterior motives. I should be on my watch, and project an image that is at least just as powerful."
    I absolutely can't stand being at the mercy of someone's power, so I always enter into an undeclared mental war against every person whom I deem even slightly powerful.

    Impulsiveness: Even though for the most part I am pacific and distance myself from most forms of confrontation, deep inside I have an almost constant desire to "punch first and ask later" even if the person did nothing wrong to me. I have a strong need to blow off steam by becoming physically violent, but I very rarely do so. (did it a bit more often in school though). However, if I am REALLY provoked (which happens super rarely), I can get both physical and verbally abusive, and to a very extreme degree. When I'm in the heat of an aggressive confrontation, I like raising my voice and becoming a prideful and commanding asshole, seeking to dominate my opponent until the bitter end and with every tool at my disposal.

    How others see me: People often comment that they're silently scared of me, but they rarely manage to explain why. Recently, however, I received the following comment from a friend who knows me very closely: "You're like a peach and ginger salad - you seem sweet and pleasant from a distance, but once people get closer, you start kicking the shit out of them, always when they least expect it."

    Life goal: To ensure that I never behave, think, or live in a "pathetic/lowly" manner; and to become the best version of what I was designed by nature to become (whatever that is). I want to eliminate all weaknesses in me, and I have low tolerance for weaknesses in other people. I want to behave and make decisions in the most noble and chivalrous (not necessarily charitable) way possible, to do things I can be proud about, and to become someone others would want to look up to. I have this mental projection since childhood, that I must mold myself, my mind, my soul, my spirit into the a "perfect sword", that's made of the finest metal, is unique/rare, sturdy, elegant, and sharp.

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    Let me count the ways Betty Blue's Avatar
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    so far i'm feeling ESTP despite the suggestions of introversion, certainly Ti and Se,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Blue View Post
    so far i'm feeling ESTP despite the suggestions of introversion, certainly Ti and Se,
    Fe or Fi though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mez View Post
    Fe or Fi though?
    Fe pairs with Ti. there's your answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Fe pairs with Ti. there's your answer
    I know that Fe pairs with Ti.
    But that's the thing, I really doubt I'm a Fe, considering that I'm predominantly concerned with authenticity and standing out, rather than creating/seeking harmony/comfort.

    Since Ti can be imitated by Ni/Te, I can't treat it as a reliable indicator

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    Quote Originally Posted by mez View Post
    I know that Fe pairs with Ti.
    But that's the thing, I really doubt I'm a Fe, considering that I'm predominantly concerned with authenticity and standing out, rather than creating/seeking harmony/comfort.

    Since Ti can be imitated by Ni/Te, I can't treat it as a reliable indicator
    would you say there is a function that can't be imitated or compensated for (in a convincing manner) by any other function?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obfuscate View Post
    would you say there is a function that can't be imitated or compensated for (in a convincing manner) by any other function?
    I'm only aware of Ti being imitated by Ni/Te.
    No idea whether other functions have the potential to imitate anything. But I haven't heard of any.

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    Not sure on MBTI, but there is either 3w4 or 4w3 somewhere in there.
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    INTJ 3w4 5w6 8w sx dominant

    For now

    Ill try to break this down more later
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    Quote Originally Posted by mez View Post
    Fe or Fi though?
    I'd go with Fe because of the focus on controlling social situations and your position within them. I see very little to suggest Fi as I understand it. It seems you are very aware of others and how they behave but instead of using that to comfort others or make them feel at ease (Often seen in Fe primary or secondary feelers like XNFJ's) you use that knowledge to better your own position, this would fit with ESTP.

    Fi users, in general would be much less concerned with this and more concerned with placing their moral judgement.

    How are you with close friends and family members?
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