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    I appreciate all the feedback. I'm really at a loss. Like I said, the more I research the less I understand about myself.

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    I decided to take the tests linked on this site. My results are below:

    Keirsey Jung: Idealist/ENFJ. Fe>Ni>Ne>Te=Fi=Se>Ti>Si

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    Dario Nardi: ESFP, or if that doesn't fit, ISFP or ENFP.
    The problem I had taking this test is that it asked to mark things you had success with rather than how you prefer to operate. I can successfully use logic. I can successfully work with numbers and quantitative data. I can successfully analyze things and have done so many times. I didn't give myself above a 3 on anything I don't normally prefer to do, even if I'd had good success at it.

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    Most tests that I take type me as ENFP.

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    I typed ENFx with the official test 25 years ago.
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    I went to the thread that you use when you're second-guessing your type. From this I determined I am definitely an extrovert. LOL this was never in question. I also determined I am definitely temperament idealist/catalyst, which is hard because that includes both the ENFJ & ENFP. I cannot figure out if I am a director or informer.. I believe I am an informer, but I could be the other and not realize it. I can be kind of bossy, but I'm also good at phrasing things in a way that motivate others to want to do their part. Does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Deadpan View Post
    I haven't read your questionnaires yet, but I just wanted to pop in and say that I think you're getting inaccurate input on Fe vs Fi in this thread. ENFPs don't like to look illogical/wrong in front of others. Having tertiary Te means that they often like to "think out loud" to process their thoughts. When combined with an appearance of self-doubt or emotionality, people love to scream "Fe," although that may not be correct. Also, having PoLR Ti means that they don't really have an internally consistent logical process. They might be confident on the logic about their self-typing one day, and then a week later proclaim confidently to see things a totally different way. If called out on it, they'll likely be a little embarrassed about looking flakey or "stupid." Their minds can easily see different possibilities for one truth, so it can be hard for them to settle on a type. An unhealthy ENFP, particularly an image type (2, 3, 4), may be more actively defensive/openly emotional about how they see themselves in a moment. And ENFPs are actually prone to moments of over-sharing followed by a feeling of "maybe I shouldn't have shared that." It doesn't mean they prefer Fe.
    Yeah but that's not a killer argument for ENFP either. A strong dislike to looking illogical/wrong in front of others is not an ENFP only thing. No one likes looking dumb, including Fe doms. The cause may be different, but the result is the same. (Feel free to correct me if you've got a reallife example that proves me wrong)
    But yeah. I've had an ESFJ ragequitting our shared project in college and not talking to me for weeks because she interpreted one of my self-deprecating jokes as me implying she was stupid (which I wasn't)
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    So. Having finally read everything, this is what I was able to get from it:

    1. .... you're an overachiever
    2. You're a 7 poster child.
    3. I think I understand why your friends say they tire just by watching you
    4. I wanna discuss midichlorians with you.
    5. Your type is REALLY hard to pin down. I have NO idea what your inferior function could be, usually that one is painfully obvious. I see more Fe than Fi (or maybe it is like Peter said and it just looks Fe), more Ne than Ni, I see no Te but some signs of Ti, and didn't notice anything particular about the sensing functions. Maybe low Si. Which... doesn't help in any way. I'm sorry.

    Have you ever considered ESFJ/ENTP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by There View Post
    So. Having finally read everything, this is what I was able to get from it:

    1. .... you're an overachiever
    2. You're a 7 poster child.
    3. I think I understand why your friends say they tire just by watching you
    4. I wanna discuss midichlorians with you.
    5. Your type is REALLY hard to pin down. I have NO idea what your inferior function could be, usually that one is painfully obvious. I see more Fe than Fi (or maybe it is like Peter said and it just looks Fe), more Ne than Ni, I see no Te but some signs of Ti, and didn't notice anything particular about the sensing functions. Maybe low Si. Which... doesn't help in any way. I'm sorry.

    Have you ever considered ESFJ/ENTP?
    1) Definitely, when I'm motivated
    2) For sure!
    3) And yes
    4) We totally should! Did you see the movie last night?
    5) And I know!!! That's why I started this thread.

    I've been reading tons of stuff and have considered many types. There are things I relate to with most E types, and things that I shake my head on as well. Like I said, I'm an enigma.
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    I took several socionics tests today and seem to be testing very IEE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by There View Post

    Have you ever considered ESFJ/ENTP?
    ENTP is a definite possibility. I can make a case for how I could be any Extroverted personality type, which in and of itself seems very ENTP.

    I originally had a knee-jerk rejection of the idea, because I don't ALWAYS enjoy playing devil's advocate or debating an issue. However, when it's done in the right spirit, I love it. I can easily see things from all sides. Friends would often call me just to help them justify something they wanted to do but knew they shouldn't, like skip a class or put off an important task. I can find a legitimate reason for just about any behavior. I often avoid debate because it puts so many people off, and I don't enjoy conflict other than in the right atmosphere.

    The other descriptions sound so very much like me. "An odd juxtaposition arises with ENTPs, as they are uncompromisingly honest, but will argue tirelessly for something they don’t actually believe in, stepping into another’s shoes to argue a truth from another perspective." This is me.

    And the bit about rules. Seriously. Someone asked my mom if I was a rule-follower or a rule-breaker. Her response? "She makes her own rules. Always has." If a rule makes sense to me, I become its biggest supporter/enforcer. If a rule doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't exist to me. There are ways to circumvent it and stay within legal bounds. I'm not always a rebel or the underdog, but it does bring something out in me.

    And I am practically the poster child for the concept of coming up with ideas and planning them, but needing someone else to do the grunt work. I don't do grunt work unless I cannot avoid it. I even mentioned in the questionnaires that I need a personal assistant to put all my pieces together.

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    ESFJ is more off-putting to me. I've never been popular with the general population. Within my circles, I'm very popular. I don't mind the spotlight, but don't care for public recognition. I appreciate beauty and fashion, but don't focus on it for myself.

    It also doesn't fit as I'm not so much a rule-follower. I have a personal ethical standard, but not all rules are necessary, in my opinion. I also tend to stay out of other people's business. Live and let live. I'm not big on standing judge over another.

    I do love to be of service, but so do other types.

    I am mostly conflict-adverse and the social aspects of ESFJ do seem to fit me better than some other types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAD1973 View Post
    ENTP is a definite possibility. I can make a case for how I could be any Extroverted personality type, which in and of itself seems very ENTP.

    I originally had a knee-jerk rejection of the idea, because I don't ALWAYS enjoy playing devil's advocate or debating an issue. However, when it's done in the right spirit, I love it. I can easily see things from all sides. Friends would often call me just to help them justify something they wanted to do but knew they shouldn't, like skip a class or put off an important task. I can find a legitimate reason for just about any behavior. I often avoid debate because it puts so many people off, and I don't enjoy conflict other than in the right atmosphere.

    The other descriptions sound so very much like me. "An odd juxtaposition arises with ENTPs, as they are uncompromisingly honest, but will argue tirelessly for something they don’t actually believe in, stepping into another’s shoes to argue a truth from another perspective." This is me.

    And the bit about rules. Seriously. Someone asked my mom if I was a rule-follower or a rule-breaker. Her response? "She makes her own rules. Always has." If a rule makes sense to me, I become its biggest supporter/enforcer. If a rule doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't exist to me. There are ways to circumvent it and stay within legal bounds. I'm not always a rebel or the underdog, but it does bring something out in me.

    And I am practically the poster child for the concept of coming up with ideas and planning them, but needing someone else to do the grunt work. I don't do grunt work unless I cannot avoid it. I even mentioned in the questionnaires that I need a personal assistant to put all my pieces together.
    I think you seem like an ENTP from the way you communicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis View Post
    I think you seem like an ENTP from the way you communicate.
    Or sometimes you do.

    I know I'm hardly presenting an airtight case.


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