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Do you think this an INTJ?

FiyaXiii

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MBTI Type
INTJ
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5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
So I've been trying to type this person I've met recently and he insists on being an INTJ because he took a bunch of tests (dichotomy based) that scored him as such, and he seems to know little to nothing about the functions. Besides me, an INFJ and I had some trouble seeing Ni in him, but later we agreed he did have Ni, however I'm personally struggling seeing him having proper Te and I think his Ni is either unhealthy or low down the stack. It doesn't help that he sounds very much so like an ENFP friend of mine who used to mistype as an INTJ cause of dichotomy based tests too and after discussing functions she found out how high her Fi was in the stack and that she was a Ne user instead.

The following is stuff he sent me via chat in answer to some of the questions I got from a form from one of the typology forums for mbti, so I'm curious to see what others think;



1. During your youth (7'ish to 18), What did you focus on the most? What activities did you like and why? What aspect of life was lax in attention?

I am currently 16. And at this moment in time I enjoy the topics of philosophy (existentialism, nihilism, and objectivism), politics, neurology (and would likely pursue a career in it), human physiology, evolutionary psychology and biology, quantum physics and theoretical physics (although not something I'm too incredibly knowledgeable about because it's a very recent interest and I do not have time to study it because of schoolwork for the end of the year), politics and law, and finally the topic of death.

I typically enjoy reading. Studying any of the aforementioned topics out of curiosity. Writing (if you would like I can send you my book ideas if it would help). Cooking. And video games (although what teenage boy in this day and age doesn't and I restrict myself on the weekdays to an hour or two, and generally don't limit myself on weekends so long as I've gotten my 1 hour of writing in for the day).

My mother is very sick with a lot of diseases and is constantly bed ridden since 2008/9,and my father died when I was 7 so since I've been 9 years old I've been highly independent and can sufficiently take care of myself and even live alone currently (my mother lives with her fiance while I stay in the apartment she left behind) so I'd say I've had a lack of role models and authoritative figures in my life. Yet I still know when to respect authority and when to challenge it (although it's typically more respect).

2. You're in you senior year of high school (or whatever equivalent) and you are looking back over the last couple of years. What was your favorite aspect of the schooling experience and why? Favorite subject and why?

My favorite aspect of my schooling experience would have to be simply learning. The ability to go and expand your knowledge of topics. And how as you do so you find interest. That and even having the ability to go to school alone is something I enjoy. I have opportunities opened up as a result the children in third world countries would never be able to have.

Favorite subject. I'm actually in 10th grade and in my school psychology is an 11th grade course and philosophy a 12th grade course so one of those may become my favorite but if you were to mean required academic subjects then either science or history. I enjoy history because I'm not opposed to careers in law or politics and that class helps with those careers. But it's also fascinating to see how the actions of others have impacted my life and how my actions have the possibility of affecting others lives in the future. And science (physics & chemistry, or biology. I'm not particularly fond of earth science) because I like having the ability to understand how the universe works. While you don't need to know how the universe works having the ability to, and comprehending it gives a whole another appreciation to life.

3. A couple of friends call and invite you out to a restaurant. While there, you all are pleasantly conversing and one of your friends makes a comment that irked you. What are your thoughts and how do you respond?

This is a subjective question that if I answer will seem very inadequate. I good of a friend they are. What exactly did they say. Are they know for making a lot of joking comments or personal attacks to ones character and ideology. But let's say that this is a very close friend who makes a lot of joking comments but what he just said I cannot keep quiet about as I would with most comments that would irk me. Depending on how sever the comment I'd like to wait until we could talk in private (so probably after the restaurant) and handle the matter like gentlemen. I'd say why the comment irked me (if it was an attack on my person) or debate them on their opinion if I knew I was right. No reason in debating over a matter where they're right and I know they are. But ultimately they have a right to free speech and I would hope if we're in my situation where I irked them they'd handle the issue similarly.

4. Your schooling is done and it's time to strike out into the world!! What sort of career do you want to go into and why?


I refer you back to question 1 where I mentioned neurology. As to what my specialty in that field would be I'm not sure. I need to worry about finishing high school, college, grad, and med school (I.e. another 12 years). But the three most interesting branches to me can be found under the umbrella of neuropsychology, those being cognitive, social, and behavioral Neuroscience.

5. A friend is getting married and they put you in charge of the cake. You narrowed it down to two places to make an order. The first is a bakery with whom you got a good relationship with. The other is a well-known cake maker to whom everyone goes to (your friend hints to it as well). Which one do you choose and why?

In all honesty I don't care. But I'm going to make the assumption that the baker I have a good relationship with isn't as well know as the other baker and the baker I'm acquainted with would be cheaper. What I'd like to do is bring this question to the bride and groom, after all it is their wedding. Do they want cheaper price and possibly quality. Or the well known baker who's more expensive, to which because they've dropped hints, I'm gonna guess is who they go with. But in the question I am put in charge of the cake I'd imagine I shouldn't ask them and my answer would be the same. It's their wedding. They want the well known baker, I know I'd want my wishes respected (especially in terms of a wedding). They got it, it's their cash they're using anyway so I don't care.


6. You get into an argument with a friend/family member/co-worker. They criticize one of your personality traits. What would most likely be the focus of their critique?


Just one. Highly unlikely because I have quite a large number of flaws. But if I had to pick one. My intelligence. Because it leads me to having a superiority/inferiority complex, to be egotistical, nihilistic, argumentative, cynical, misanthropic, authoritative, sanctimonious, dogmatic, and at times to act omniscient.



7. It's New Years! You and your friends are out and about after a party. Being drunk, one of your friends suggests to do something....'questionable' (Nothing serious. I.e, drugs, escort, etc.). What are your thoughts and how do you respond?

1) Good luck getting me to go to a party let alone out of the house. 2) Again this is highly subjective. But if it would cause physical, mental, or emotional harm to any one of us or another I'll probably tell them their being a drunk idiot and make sure they don't do it. However if they were sober I'd ridicule them for being fucking idiots and I'd leave them.

8. Yep, you now have a kid (sex of your choosing)! Years pass and they are now 15 years old. You notice their personality traits are the complete opposite of how you were when at their age. Describe how they are. Describe the possible conflicts that would arise between both of you due to differing temperaments.

Gregarious/Extroverted. Completely Co-dependant. Emotional (externally). Overly forgiving. Energetic. Optimistic. Uneducated. Amicable. Outgoing. Exuberant. Youthful/Childish. Talkative. Overly Sensitive. Sympathetic. Cooperative. Spontaneous/Impulsive. Harmonious. Accepting. Gullible. Affectionate. Exhibitionist. Narcissistic. Altruistic. Shallow/Superficial. Ignorant. Unreasonable. Chaotic. Illogical. Lackadaisical. (I couldn't quite find a word that's the antonym of perfectionist or of controlling, but yea that). Anarchist. (Rebel)lious without a cause. Extrospective. Boisterous. Unadaptable. Irresponsible. Thin-skinned (opposite of thick-skinned). Vacillating. Personable (as opposite of impersonal). Unplanned. Bubbly. Dull (as an antonym for intense). Homogeneous/Uniform. Reserved. Meek (in non biblical sense). Indeterminate (as and antonym for deliberate). Indecisive. Liberal. Subjective. Tactful.

My environment is very messy but somehow organized. Upon first look it's like a tornado swept through my apartment, but threw similar things together. Like that stack of papers are for English class, and that stack of papers for history. A bookshelf may have books on it but they're just thrown in top of each other as opposed to stacked like you'd see in a library. So I'd say I'm messy but organized. My kid would be neat but disorganized. If that makes sense.

And I'm slow when it comes to starting something, but once I get into it you're damn sure I'm finishing it and can't be stopped. So my kid would then be someone who starts something but then doesn't finish it.

I feel like I don't need to state possible conflicts because just find the antonyms for the words I gave and I'd say it paints a good mental image. But I'll still begrudgingly answer the question further, and reduce it to three major points. But also keep in mind that to me this is a somewhat difficult question and here's an analogy I like to use describes why. "It's like asking a fish what it's like to be a bird, and a bird what it's like to be a fish". I myself am a teenager and who lives alone, asking me what it's like to be a father with a child who possesses the listed attributes is going to be kinda hard to do.

1. I'd most likely offer a severe lack of emotional support. I wouldn't coddle them and I'd force them to be independent. Any issues they have I'd make them solve themselves without my intervention (unless they go to their mother but that's besides the point). I'm sure you can see where conflict would arise.

2. This may sound silly but I can see a situation where if my child is being openly rebellious (so let's say doing drugs, drinking, having a lot of casual unprotected sex (not sure why I'd know that but just play along), spending money frivolously, etc.) In an attempt to just get a rise out of me it'd be a wasted one. I believe if my child wants to actively fuck their life up go right ahead, but when they come to regret their decisions I'm not going to have sympathy. The only time I would care is if say that they had stolen money from me to buy the drugs or alcohol, I'm demanding they pay it back immediately or they must work it off. I can envision a situation where I catch my child being rebellious (say smoking pot). I'd just let them do it and later they might come to me asking why I'm not pushing them. I'd respond with something along the lines of "I don't have to" because I know they're just trying to get a rise out of me and I'm not going to indulge them in their seeking of attention. 3. There would be a lack of understanding when they drop subtle hints about something. At times I'm quite oblivious in that regard (oh that's another adjective to describe my child, oblivious). An example I give when explaining this is say I'm talking to a girl and the topic of a water park comes up.

Girl: oh I love water parks. I haven't been to one in forever. Although come to think of it I am free this Sat so I'll probably go to one, but I don't have anyone to go with

Now because I created the scenario I know that the implication is that she's asking if I'd go with her. But in actuality I'd most likely respond like this.

Me: oh yea I get what you mean. That sucks though.

Completely oblivious that she's asking me. So if my child were to drop a subtle hint like this they may hold a resentment towards me for not picking up the implication of their message.
 
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