Can you help me with my type?

[I'mStardust]

Hey!

1. During your youth (7'ish to 18), What did you focus on the most? What activities did you like and why? What aspect of life was lax in attention?
Primarly in "intelectual" activities. Intense researching about the most various topics. Also, literature. Not very into physical activities, though I practice dance. Never paid much attention to the way I looked.

2. You're in you senior year of high school (or whatever equivalent) and you are looking back over the last couple of years. What was your favorite aspect of the schooling experience and why? Favorite subject and why?
I'd probably say being able to learn so many different things. Being able to meet new people. And the self-growth and self-discovery that came with those years.
Hm... Tough question. I really love math. But I also really like biology and literature. I don't really have a reason for liking math. I just like the rush of being able to find the solution to a problem. I like biology because I like to understand how different processes are linked to one another. It makes me think of nature as a whole. I also like all the ethical and philosophical questions that biology makes me think about. I like literature because it takes me to new and completely different worlds. I enjoy the depth and the criativity related to literature. I particularly like poetry and fantasy.

3. A couple of friends call and invite you out to a restaurant. While there, you all are pleasantly conversing and one of your friends makes a comment that irked you. What are you're thoughts and how do you respond?
I'd probably try to pretend everything is okay. However, I'm very sensitive so my friend would be able to see that I was mad by just looking at my face. My thoughts would be all over the place. Very self-centered. When I'm annoyed I need my time not talking to anyone so I can calm down and not say something hurtful. To clear my head and understand the other person point of view.

4. Your schooling is done and it's time to strike out into the world!! What sort of career do you want to go into and why?
Something innovative and not static. Somewhat stable in the sense that the wage should be good. I'd like to have a career that would allow me to live in all sort of places. Maybe a career connected to nature and animals. Also, I'd like my work to help humanity in some way. The thing that I fear most about a future job is me quiting because I find the job boring and repetitive.

5. A friend is getting married and they put you in charge of the cake. You narrowed it down to two places to make an order. The first is a bakery with whom you got a good relationship with. The other is a well-known cake maker to whom everyone goes to (your friend hints to it as well). Which one do you choose and why?
It would depend on the quality of the cake. If both bakerys had the same quality I'd go with the baker I was acquainted with. Purely out of fear they'd found out and be hurt. That seems odd, to be mad about cake but who knows... It's not because everyone frequents a certain place that that place is good. But hey if the bakery was in fact good, I'd go with the second one. The best cake possible.

6. You get into an argument with a friend/family member/co-worker. They criticize one of your personality traits. What would most likely be the focus of their critique?
My controversial nature. In the sense that I can be extremely sensitive and yet very blunt. That's often a problem. My mom often complains about me being stubborn. And my dad and brother think I just have controversial opinions to annoy and contradict them. Not true, tho.

7. It's New Years! You and your friends are out and about after a party. Being drunk, one of your friends suggests to do something....'questionable' (Nothing serious. I.e, drugs, escort, etc.). What are your thoughts and how do you respond?
Well... It depends on the "questionable" thing. If it's not something serious, I'd be somewhat reluctant, yet very very curious. So I'd probably go with them and try whatever they were up to. My reluctancy would not win over my curiosity and wilingness to try different experiences.

8. A new art gallery opens up and your friend wants to go to the grand opening. Both of you analyze all the paintings and sculptures. What about these works warrants the most attention from you? Why?
Aesthetically pleasing paintings. Such as paintings of landscapes. Also, the not so pleasing ones. The weird crazy ones. Those that let you not understanding a thing and you just can't help but to try and find a meaning to all of that. I'm not really into painting and sculptures though.
9. You have been saving up and decide to buy a new car. At the dealership, you peruse the lots. What are the criteria and factors that influence your choice? Which one would initially be your main focus?
Never really though about that because I really like how old cars look like so i'd go for one of those. The ones that look rusty and like they're falling apart. However, I'd be concerned about the price and safety of the car. Since I do not have a family of my own size would not be a problem. Maybe a big trunk would be nice if I had to travel somewhere.

10. Yep, you now have a kid (sex of your choosing)! Years pass and they are now 15 years old. You notice their personality traits are the complete opposite of how you were when at their age. Describe how they are. Describe the possible conflicts that would arise between both of you due to differing temperaments.
Extremely social kid. Egoistic, self-absorbed and not concerned about world problems. Confident and a charmer. Assertive and impulsive. One to live in the moment. Concerned with physical pleasures more than with intelectual and spiritual ones. Material and closed-minded. Well... what would go well with such a pairing? I'd say that if I had a child like that the biggest conflict would be related to freedom of mind. I just can't stand close-minded people. Trying to talk with him/her would be really hard and frustrating.

 

[Pionart]

By dichotomies, INF seems clear, and I would say INFP by functions.

I'm pretty sure I can see the Fi-Ne-Si-Te cycle in your answers. Not totally confident on it though.

Something is telling me that it's actually INFJ... ugh!

If you make more posts, not in questionnaire format, I will have more reference points to base the decision off of.

 

[Butze]

Legion, you seem very competent so let me ask you this (I am a newbie!)

Tough question. I really love math. But I also really like biology and literature. I don't really have a reason for liking math. I just like the rush of being able to find the solution to a problem. I like biology because I like to understand how different processes are linked to one another. It makes me think of nature as a whole. I also like all the ethical and philosophical questions that biology makes me think about.

The first part of this seems Ni-Ti... the last part seems more Ne... do you agree?
Also, do you think Si shows in the cake answer?
However, I also see some INFJness in this answers...

 

[Pionart]

Legion, you seem very competent so let me ask you this (I am a newbie!)


The first part of this seems Ni-Ti... the last part seems more Ne... do you agree?
Also, do you think Si shows in the cake answer?
However, I also see some INFJness in this answers...

I actually thought it was Fi, because it's talking about what the person likes. Only, the question asked specifically about likes, so it would be natural to use that term, which is the sort of thing throwing me off here.

In the cake question, the section stating "Purely out of fear they'd found out and be hurt" strikes me as Fe, but it might not be. I can see some Si in it, yeah, and in the question before it there's Ne.

It varies depending on how the person answers the questions, but often what you'll see in a piece of writing is that it starts with the dominant function and then moves to the auxiliary and so on, so it would make sense in INFP for an Si answer to follow from an Ne answer.

 

[Butze]

I meant more the reasons for liking those particular subjects more then the expression of liking them itself (e.i. being able to find a solution - understand how different processes are linked to one another ... this looked like Ni-Ti to me). However, I see what you mean...

 

[Pionart]

I meant more the reasons for liking those particular subjects more then the expression of liking them itself (e.i. being able to find a solution - understand how different processes are linked to one another ... this looked like Ni-Ti to me). However, I see what you mean...

Well, from looking through some maths and physics textbooks, the authors are generally either INTP, or INTJ. So, it seems that, even though the functions used are totally different, types differing by just the last letter seem to like similar things - only, they approach them in completely different ways.

 

[Keila]

In the sense that I can be extremely sensitive and yet very blunt.

Kinda looks like Fi-Te to me.

Extremely social kid. Egoistic, self-absorbed and not concerned about world problems. Confident and a charmer. Assertive and impulsive. One to live in the moment. Concerned with physical pleasures more than with intelectual and spiritual ones. Material and closed-minded.

The kid looks Se to me which implies that I'mStardust would be Si.

My reluctancy would not win over my curiosity and wilingness to try different experiences.
The thing that I fear most about a future job is me quiting because I find the job boring and repetitive.
I just can't stand close-minded people.
To clear my head and understand the other person point of view.
I'd like to have a career that would allow me to live in all sort of places.

Those all seem to indicate P.

The closeminded comment and trying to understand someone else's point of view kind of looks like Ne as well.
In addition to this job comment:

Something innovative and not static.

And then the above quote followed by:

Somewhat stable in the sense that the wage should be good

looks like Ne-Si.

 

[I'mStardust]

By dichotomies, INF seems clear, and I would say INFP by functions.

I'm pretty sure I can see the Fi-Ne-Si-Te cycle in your answers. Not totally confident on it though.

Something is telling me that it's actually INFJ... ugh!

If you make more posts, not in questionnaire format, I will have more reference points to base the decision off of.

Those are the two types I'm leaning towards. Though, I've also considered isfj and intp.
I do not really identify with Si-or with being a sensor- but I like to consider every option. Intp also seemed -from my pov- a decent option because of my very curious and sort of intelectual nature. I do know that there are stereotypes and that feelers can be intelectual and all, but at times my curiosity seems very Ti like. That's why I'm leaning more towards infj, because of the Ti-tertiary instead of inferior Te in infps. I guess I should also mention I'm a 4w5. That might explain why I may look like a Fi user.

I actually thought it was Fi, because it's talking about what the person likes. Only, the question asked specifically about likes, so it would be natural to use that term, which is the sort of thing throwing me off here.

In the cake question, the section stating "Purely out of fear they'd found out and be hurt" strikes me as Fe, but it might not be. I can see some Si in it, yeah, and in the question before it there's Ne.

It varies depending on how the person answers the questions, but often what you'll see in a piece of writing is that it starts with the dominant function and then moves to the auxiliary and so on, so it would make sense in INFP for an Si answer to follow from an Ne answer.

Why is that throwing you off? How do you see si in it?
What kind of thing should I write about? A random topic? Or something more specific linked to my identity?
I can also always do another questionnaire. I was rather tired when I did that one. If you prefer a specific one just let me know.

 

[Butze]

I am also leaning towards a 4w5 for enneagram (not sure yet, though) and this is why I have been doubtful whether I could be INFP but my Ti is very strong and I am definetly an Se inferior so...
Anyway, I just know one ISFJ for sure in real life and that is my mother and we are sooo very different. I have never ever ever shared the love for gossiping, family traditions, picture taking and displaying, I've always wanted to do things my way and this is very different from her. Also, she is very non-confrontational to the point of freezing when a discussion starts. She is not able to answer and she shuts down completely. But of course not everyone is the same.

 

[I'mStardust]

I am also leaning towards a 4w5 for enneagram (not sure yet, though) and this is why I have been doubtful whether I could be INFP but my Ti is very strong and I am definetly an Se inferior so...
Anyway, I just know one ISFJ for sure in real life and that is my mother and we are sooo very different. I have never ever ever shared the love for gossiping, family traditions, picture taking and displaying, I've always wanted to do things my way and this is very different from her. Also, she is very non-confrontational to the point of freezing when a discussion starts. She is not able to answer and she shuts down completely. But of course not everyone is the same.

For enneagram 4w5 seems the best fit for me. Maybe 5w4.
4w5 seems to be seen in infjs but it seems to be pretty common among infp's.
I also strongly identify with Ti, instead of Te.
When it comes to Se vs Si things get confusing. In functions tests they're both very low- that can always be because of mis-understanding of how I work, though i don't think that's the case. I do like Se-like activities. At stressed/emotionally numb times I become an adrenaline junkie. I also often indulge in sensory pleasures. When depressed I sleep and eat a lot. I can't build much of a case for Si- but again that can be my misconceived view of myself.
I also believe my mom to be an isfj. Perhaps an esfj. And we are indeed very very diferent. We're very close but the way we perceive the world is rather different. She often sees me as a troubled soul and I see her as close-minded. I shock her with my opinions.
Si is not necessarily about tradition, neither is tradition always related to Si- as I've been told, though apparently it's a thing with Si doms, because they don't like change. I never cared much about tradition. Whenever I followed such a thing, was mostly to please my parents and grandparents. My grandfather really cares about tradition.
I'm generally non-confrontational. Oh my... that's a lie haha Alright, sort of. Let me explain myself. Generally, I'm very peaceful and I don't get into discussions just because - disrupting the group harmony is not my thing. However, if I feel like something unfair is beng done to someone, I'll have no problem jumping in. I do not freeze. I show my point across in a very coherent, logic based yet feeling-ish way. In the end, I end up crying, though.
I also have a thing for starting controversial conversations at the dinner table. Only with my parents, though. And only because I often find their view of the world rather retrogade and unfair. So I show my "vision". They don't like it, they feel like it's some sort of personal attack.

 

[Butze]

You sound so much like me! The stress reaction really sound Se inferior and you may be confused by how much you understand or use Si because you were exposed to it so much. I was raised by a Si dom mom and Si aux father and my sister is Si dom and I am pretty sure my grandparents who lived with me when I was a girl also were. My childhood was a NIGHTMARE, nobody really understood me and nobody really cared to make an effort because they were raising me how they had been raised, if that had worked for them, it had to work for me too.

When I say tradition I know it may sound stereotypical. My parents don't throw a tantrum if I don't go home for Christmas but they will stick to the known path, find an interest in other people's life (because this is also how they learn, i am aware of that but this is just so painful for me, I really don't care about who slept with whom and why, these kind of news is just toxic for my brain, it gets me thinking about how much humanity chooses to suck when the world could be such a better place if only... so it triggers my Ni-Fe so hard). Or my sister would decorate her apartment for Christmas even if she doesn't have children. I have never done it and never will. I could probably start when I will have children, but only if they want to.

Also, for the confrontational... I also tend to be quiet but I get very flustered by unfairness, too. And the crying at the end is a release, it happens to me too. However, I like to confront people about stuff. I may have to tune my ability to convey things without sounding hurtful (I sound very INTJ when I say: come on, look at the content and not at the packaging although I know how it feels, as a feeler, to be at the receiving end of a blunt talk) at times, but for me talking about something is the only way to sort things out. My mother is the "swipe it under the rug" kind of person and there is a lot of dirt under that rug. I hate dirt under the rug, it makes me even more restless than I already am.

 

[I'mStardust]

You sound so much like me! The stress reaction really sound Se inferior and you may be confused by how much you understand or use Si because you were exposed to it so much. I was raised by a Si dom mom and Si aux father and my sister is Si dom and I am pretty sure my grandparents who lived with me when I was a girl also were. My childhood was a NIGHTMARE, nobody really understood me and nobody really cared to make an effort because they were raising me how they had been raised, if that had worked for them, it had to work for me too.

When I say tradition I know it may sound stereotypical. My parents don't throw a tantrum if I don't go home for Christmas but they will stick to the known path, find an interest in other people's life (because this is also how they learn, i am aware of that but this is just so painful for me, I really don't care about who slept with whom and why, these kind of news is just toxic for my brain, it gets me thinking about how much humanity chooses to suck when the world could be such a better place if only... so it triggers my Ni-Fe so hard). Or my sister would decorate her apartment for Christmas even if she doesn't have children. I have never done it and never will. I could probably start when I will have children, but only if they want to.

Also, for the confrontational... I also tend to be quiet but I get very flustered by unfairness, too. And the crying at the end is a release, it happens to me too. However, I like to confront people about stuff. I may have to tune my ability to convey things without sounding hurtful (I sound very INTJ when I say: come on, look at the content and not at the packaging although I know how it feels, as a feeler, to be at the receiving end of a blunt talk) at times, but for me talking about something is the only way to sort things out. My mother is the "swipe it under the rug" kind of person and there is a lot of dirt under that rug. I hate dirt under the rug, it makes me even more restless than I already am.

My mom is an xsfj. My dad an isfj. My brother too. So Si everywhere! My childhood was normal I suppose. My parents are very "conventional" but they always made an effort to try to understand me, though for them I've always been the odd child, the odd teen that was too dreamy and opiniated. My mom and dad were very hurt by the way they're raised, so they always made an effort to try and understand me and my brother.Though, I know it was very hard for my mom to have me as her daughter. We have a very good relationship but we're very different and she never really understood my existencial crisis and my emotional "problems".
My mom gets really bothered if I don't dine at the table with them. My dad always gets kind of emotional around festivities and keeps remembering how "things were". My parents are not really into gossiping. However, they can be quite judgemental and not get the other person's opinions. Whereas I always try to have an open-mind about the majority of things.
I usually ignore annoying behaviours if I feel they're not prejudicial to the person or to the people around. But if I see unfairness I can be quite blunt. I'm very direct when I want to be. I always try to sugarcoat things, though. Specially if I notice that my tone of voice is really severe at the time.

 

[Pionart]

Why is that throwing you off? How do you see si in it?

It's throwing me off because I'm having some troubles with differentiating a person's natural thought processes, from the thought processes prompted by the question. e.g. if an INFP made a questionnaire, it would make sense that someone answering it would come across somewhat INFP-ish, because many questions would be focused on Fi subject matter and so forth. As for the Si... I'm not sure if I can see it or not actually.

Hypothetically, now that you've written some more posts, I should be able to get a good impression of type, but perhaps first thing in the morning is not good for me to get into the typing mindset!

 

[I'mStardust]

It's throwing me off because I'm having some troubles with differentiating a person's natural thought processes, from the thought processes prompted by the question. e.g. if an INFP made a questionnaire, it would make sense that someone answering it would come across somewhat INFP-ish, because many questions would be focused on Fi subject matter and so forth. As for the Si... I'm not sure if I can see it or not actually.

Hypothetically, now that you've written some more posts, I should be able to get a good impression of type, but perhaps first thing in the morning is not good for me to get into the typing mindset!

I see. Alright... I'll wait haha
It probably isn't a good thing. It's quite late in here, though. The beautiful wonders of leaving in such a big world...

 

[Pionart]

For enneagram 4w5 seems the best fit for me. Maybe 5w4.
4w5 seems to be seen in infjs but it seems to be pretty common among infp's.
I also strongly identify with Ti, instead of Te.
When it comes to Se vs Si things get confusing. In functions tests they're both very low- that can always be because of mis-understanding of how I work, though i don't think that's the case. I do like Se-like activities. At stressed/emotionally numb times I become an adrenaline junkie. I also often indulge in sensory pleasures. When depressed I sleep and eat a lot. I can't build much of a case for Si- but again that can be my misconceived view of myself.
I also believe my mom to be an isfj. Perhaps an esfj. And we are indeed very very diferent. We're very close but the way we perceive the world is rather different. She often sees me as a troubled soul and I see her as close-minded. I shock her with my opinions.
Si is not necessarily about tradition, neither is tradition always related to Si- as I've been told, though apparently it's a thing with Si doms, because they don't like change. I never cared much about tradition. Whenever I followed such a thing, was mostly to please my parents and grandparents. My grandfather really cares about tradition.
I'm generally non-confrontational. Oh my... that's a lie haha Alright, sort of. Let me explain myself. Generally, I'm very peaceful and I don't get into discussions just because - disrupting the group harmony is not my thing. However, if I feel like something unfair is beng done to someone, I'll have no problem jumping in. I do not freeze. I show my point across in a very coherent, logic based yet feeling-ish way. In the end, I end up crying, though.
I also have a thing for starting controversial conversations at the dinner table. Only with my parents, though. And only because I often find their view of the world rather retrogade and unfair. So I show my "vision". They don't like it, they feel like it's some sort of personal attack.

Your use of words like "probably" and "seems" strikes me as Ni. The process of finding your type may be an inner exploration of archetypes, in an Ni manner.

Furthermore, you use many Ti-ish logical statements, and when you said you're not confrontational but actually you are, that might be saying something like "I'm not Se but actually I am" since it's the inferior, and doesn't seem immediately obvious but still shines through.

The Fe I'm having trouble identifying, but as you mentioned yourself, the seemingly high amount of Ti would be indicative of INFJ.

It's your writing style in general that first made me realise that you were quite likely an INFJ, even though I thought I was seeing INFP.

 

[I'mStardust]

Your use of words like "probably" and "seems" strikes me as Ni. The process of finding your type may be an inner exploration of archetypes, in an Ni manner.

Furthermore, you use many Ti-ish logical statements, and when you said you're not confrontational but actually you are, that might be saying something like "I'm not Se but actually I am" since it's the inferior, and doesn't seem immediately obvious but still shines through.

The Fe I'm having trouble identifying, but as you mentioned yourself, the seemingly high amount of Ti would be indicative of INFJ.

It's your writing style in general that first made me realise that you were quite likely an INFJ, even though I thought I was seeing INFP.

Can you explain what you meant by the sentence in bold letters?
You mentioned that I use "many Ti-ish logical statements", so what made you consider Ni as dominant nstead of Ti?
I've read somewhere that some infjs have under-developed Fe and identify more with Ti. Can that be the case?
How do infjs write?
Thank you for helping me and sorry for all the questions

 

[Pionart]

Can you explain what you meant by the sentence in bold letters?
You mentioned that I use "many Ti-ish logical statements", so what made you consider Ni as dominant nstead of Ti?
I've read somewhere that some infjs have under-developed Fe and identify more with Ti. Can that be the case?
How do infjs write?
Thank you for helping me and sorry for all the questions

About the archetypes bit... I can't quite explain it, it just sounded right (which could possibly mean it was BS, but maybe not). Look up archetypes as described by Jung to get an idea of it.

I think I'm going to have to give up for now on your typing, because I haven't quite learnt to identify how Fi speaks apart from looking for key "feeling" terms. The Ti could even be Fi.

But to explain why I thought Ni was the dominant, the Ti seemed to be coming later in the post. But I've realised now, we actually show cognition of multiple types, and for an INFP, INFJ is one of the main secondary types. If you were an INFP, and then were responding to INFJs, you could go into an INFJ mode of explanation.

The INFJ writing thing was just a hunch, like not the sort of thing I can explain, it just occurred to me... sorry that I'm a bit hopeless at answering your questions.

 

[I'mStardust]

About the archetypes bit... I can't quite explain it, it just sounded right (which could possibly mean it was BS, but maybe not). Look up archetypes as described by Jung to get an idea of it.

I think I'm going to have to give up for now on your typing, because I haven't quite learnt to identify how Fi speaks apart from looking for key "feeling" terms. The Ti could even be Fi.

But to explain why I thought Ni was the dominant, the Ti seemed to be coming later in the post. But I've realised now, we actually show cognition of multiple types, and for an INFP, INFJ is one of the main secondary types. If you were an INFP, and then were responding to INFJs, you could go into an INFJ mode of explanation.

The INFJ writing thing was just a hunch, like not the sort of thing I can explain, it just occurred to me... sorry that I'm a bit hopeless at answering your questions.

Alright, I'll look it up.
I've read that we can use all eight functions but that type is "made" by the ones we naturally and actually prefer to use. So I guess an INFP could "mimicate" Ni or Fe, but I guess that, later or sooner, Fi would show up. Though, mimicating other people's behaviour and thought processes is very Ni-Fe like, ins't it?
Hm... I see, I only asked that because that has been previously mentioned to me. That the way I write is coherent with Ni. I didn't really get why, that's why I asked. I guess my phrasing can be somewhat odd. Fi as a dominant function, or even Fe, is not really how I "see" myself being. Though, I could be wrong. Just by my thought process overall. I don't think that the "feeling language" is my first one.
Thank you very much for all of your input

 

[Pionart]

Alright, I'll look it up.
I've read that we can use all eight functions but that type is "made" by the ones we naturally and actually prefer to use. So I guess an INFP could "mimicate" Ni or Fe, but I guess that, later or sooner, Fi would show up. Though, mimicating other people's behaviour and thought processes is very Ni-Fe like, ins't it?
Hm... I see, I only asked that because that has been previously mentioned to me. That the way I write is coherent with Ni. I didn't really get why, that's why I asked. I guess my phrasing can be somewhat odd. Fi as a dominant function, or even Fe, is not really how I "see" myself being. Though, I could be wrong. Just by my thought process overall. I don't think that the "feeling language" is my first one.
Thank you very much for all of your input

It sounds sort of intuitive but also counter-intuitive that Ni-Fe would be mimicking other types more often. I mean, Ni likes to peer behind what is there, but it just seems like no function would have the property that it tends activate the functions not in the stack, if that makes sense.

I'm pretty sure everyone uses multiple types, and the reason that some people would use them more than others is likely to try and communicate better with someone who uses other functions, or to use functions to fulfill a task that cannot easily done by the primary type.

This is why I, personally, use ESTJ cognition a lot: it's probably the type that can fulfill the most number of tasks that the INFJ functions fall short in.