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What am I (MBTI)?

vielibre

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MBTI Type
INFJ
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5
Any help/opinions would be much appreciated. Just a bit of background. As I child, I typed INFP. However, this was years ago and A LOT has happened since then. I feel as though my sweet, idealistic spirit has been crushed by the realities of adult life (that was me trying to be sort of funny). In all seriousness, have been ill (in and out of hospital) with several chronic illnesses, left home to pursue my childhood dream of being a nurse at university. Then through a combination of loneliness and perhaps naivety, found myself in an emotionally abusive relationship. I feel through these experiences, i've developed a lot and perhaps not necessarily for the better.

E vs I
- Whilst I spend a lot of time in my room painting, reading, listening to music, I quickly grow lonely and crave contact with others. However, after a lot of socialising, feel the need to escape
-Whilst I find it easy to get on/have small talk with others, I often don't find it particularly stimulating and sometimes feel restless as a result. However, if someone wants to have a long, philosophical discussion, I become almost animated and my attention is held for hours
-Once i've been getting on with someone for a while, I never want to let that friendship go and will be very proactive in maintaining the friendship
-The bonds I make with others can be very intense for me and I care for those few very deeply

N vs S (Pretty sure an intuitive)
-Day dream a lot about people, the past, the future, meaning of life etc. Often leads to a lot of ruminating sometimes
-I get very anxious about the future and often regret not doing more in the past or the way things worked out etc. Sometimes, to the detriment of not enjoying/being grateful for the present
-In my own little world a lot and don't realise until someone asks if I'm okay whilst I'm deep in thought

F vs T
-Was a very sensitive/emotional child, always the people-pleaser hardly ever got into trouble. Just wanted to be liked/accepted by others
-I feel like I can tune into someone's emotions very easily, once I get to know them, I can just intuitively "get" how they're feeling so much so that I seem to be able to predict what they're going to do/say next
-However, more recently, I feel hardened by experience and growing less sympathetic/wanting to get involved in other people's problems, I feel resentful that it's only ever got me taken advantage of and then subsequently discarded when that person feels more secure/happy
-I feel a big change came after I was broken up with by my ex. It was as if a switch flipped and I went into auto-pilot logic-no emotion. After he ended it, I went totally cold and distant and never contacted him (totally out of character). He (an INTJ) must have been surprised because he's reached out several times months after the break up hinting he loved me and saying he misses me- even got upset when I wasn't wanting to talk anymore. However, i've totally cut him off and months later still don't feel any regret because it was the "logical" thing to do
-Now, I'm less patient with others, I don't feel emotionally invested in their problems anymore
-I really enjoy analysing and looking for solutions to problems more than connecting with people (this is making me rethink whether my career choice is an ideal one anymore
-I also now feel less comfortable expressing my emotions so freely but think of them a lot when by myself
-I prefer to look from several different points of view and remain as objective and unswayed by emotion as I can in all situations

J vs P
-Like to have a plan in place and feel uncomfortable on the spot
Pretty sure I'm a judger.



Other people's voiced opinions of me:

-I've been recently told by a colleague that I'm very quietly methodical (I took as a compliment) but she was really trying to say that I should voice my opinion in group work more
-Was told by my Mother that I was being a cold b**** ignoring my ex's recent message
-Had several people tell me recently how I come across as so quiet, sweet but that they were shocked how sarcastically witty I can be once they get to know me (I take this as a huge compliment)
On the opposite end..
-Have been told by my close friend that everyone knows "you're a sensitive flower"

Confusing.

Apologies for the length. Thank you for reading!
 

Punderstorm

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MBTI Type
INxP
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9w1
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
Hmmm, maybe INxJ? How do you act when stressed?
 

vielibre

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Over-thinking things until I'm physically exhausted. Had an on and off eating disorder of sorts since I was 16. For the most part I just try to bury the really overwhelming emotions/deny their existence until it's no longer possible. Then I'll have a massive cry alone and hopefully back to functioning the next day. I'm also prone to perfectionism when it comes to uni work.

Interesting! I was thinking INxJ too. I definitely identified with being a feeler when I was younger. Now, I would type myself as a thinker if it wasn't for the fact that I'm so interested in very human focused subjects- psychology, biology, philosophy, art etc.. Yet, my cold, detached logical approach to the ex makes me think I am leaning towards T.

Has that changed your opinion?
 

Punderstorm

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INxP
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9w1
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sp/so
Over-thinking things until I'm physically exhausted. Had an on and off eating disorder of sorts since I was 16. For the most part I just try to bury the really overwhelming emotions/deny their existence until it's no longer possible. Then I'll have a massive cry alone and hopefully back to functioning the next day. I'm also prone to perfectionism when it comes to uni work.

Interesting! I was thinking INxJ too. I definitely identified with being a feeler when I was younger. Now, I would type myself as a thinker if it wasn't for the fact that I'm so interested in very human focused subjects- psychology, biology, philosophy, art etc.. Yet, my cold, detached logical approach to the ex makes me think I am leaning towards T.

Has that changed your opinion?

Hmm, do you know cognitive functions? How old are you?
 

vielibre

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I do.. INTJ would be TE before FI and INFJ FE before TI. I know that I'm slow to open to up especially about my true feelings. Those are mostly kept to myself unless I know I can post them somewhat anonymously on here. I can do social graces because it's all I've known since I was a child. That being said, more and more I find myself not smiling or laughing alongside others. I just find it exhausting to pretend. Lately, I've been sat with good friends listening to them small talk and it drives me nuts. I'll smile whilst silently judging/analysing/pulling apart and just being generally critical about every little thing they say and how they say it.
I don't enjoy being this way and I don't feel like a good or nice person anymore. I feel that this internal cynicism/pessimism could be paradoxically an emotional response to feeling like I've had to please everyone my whole life thus far?
Thanks for your reply, I'm 19.
 

fetus

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Have you looked into the cognitive functions? I think they're helpful. I'm going to reference them.

I don't think you're a T. Being in-tune with others' feelings, sensitive as a kid, the "close bonds" you mention (I've come to think that such a focus on close emotional bonds with other people is related to Fe), and wanting to be liked all seems like Fe. You say you have been hardened by experience, and I can definitely see that.
The analysis, searching for solutions, remaining objective, and all the Thinker-ish traits you talk about sound like Ti. Experience may have caused your Fe to shrink, so now you're more reserved with your extroverted function being pushed away. Ni-Ti loop, they call it.

If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, just let me know and I'll try to explain the functions (at the bottom of my reply you can "reply with quote" so I get a notification that you've replied; otherwise I don't see what you've written back to me unless I remember to look for this thread again).

My guess for you is INFJ (Ni-Fe-Ti-Se) with unhealthy/lacking Fe, relying more on your Ti thus making you wonder if you're an INTJ.
 

Punderstorm

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I do.. INTJ would be TE before FI and INFJ FE before TI. I know that I'm slow to open to up especially about my true feelings. Those are mostly kept to myself unless I know I can post them somewhat anonymously on here. I can do social graces because it's all I've known since I was a child. That being said, more and more I find myself not smiling or laughing alongside others. I just find it exhausting to pretend. Lately, I've been sat with good friends listening to them small talk and it drives me nuts. I'll smile whilst silently judging/analysing/pulling apart and just being generally critical about every little thing they say and how they say it.
I don't enjoy being this way and I don't feel like a good or nice person anymore. I feel that this internal cynicism/pessimism could be paradoxically an emotional response to feeling like I've had to please everyone my whole life thus far?
Thanks for your reply, I'm 19.

How are you normally? I'm leaning towards INFJ with unhealthy Fe.
 

vielibre

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Have you looked into the cognitive functions? I think they're helpful. I'm going to reference them.

I don't think you're a T. Being in-tune with others' feelings, sensitive as a kid, the "close bonds" you mention (I've come to think that such a focus on close emotional bonds with other people is related to Fe), and wanting to be liked all seems like Fe. You say you have been hardened by experience, and I can definitely see that.
The analysis, searching for solutions, remaining objective, and all the Thinker-ish traits you talk about sound like Ti. Experience may have caused your Fe to shrink, so now you're more reserved with your extroverted function being pushed away. Ni-Ti loop, they call it.

If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, just let me know and I'll try to explain the functions (at the bottom of my reply you can "reply with quote" so I get a notification that you've replied; otherwise I don't see what you've written back to me unless I remember to look for this thread again).

My guess for you is INFJ (Ni-Fe-Ti-Se) with unhealthy/lacking Fe, relying more on your Ti thus making you wonder if you're an INTJ.


Thank you for your in-depth reply. You sound very knowledgeable about this. As much as I don't want to admit to being unhealthy, I think you're right. I feel incapable of getting out of this now. My problems have been going on since childhood. I'm effectively doomed (objectively speaking).
 

vielibre

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How are you normally? I'm leaning towards INFJ with unhealthy Fe.

Thank you. You're probably right. I genuinely don't know what normal is for me. As I said, used to type INFP before all of this madness.
 

fetus

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Thank you for your in-depth reply. You sound very knowledgeable about this. As much as I don't want to admit to being unhealthy, I think you're right. I feel incapable of getting out of this now. My problems have been going on since childhood. I'm effectively doomed (objectively speaking).

I don't think you're incapable of getting out of this. You're not doomed. I really don't believe anyone is ever doomed, actually. As long as you're willing to try to heal and take the first step on a journey, there is hope for you. This I believe.

I don't want to overstep my bounds--but if you've been feeling very distressed about this, or if this has been going on for a long time, you might want to consider seeing a therapist.
 

vielibre

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I don't think you're incapable of getting out of this. You're not doomed. I really don't believe anyone is ever doomed, actually. As long as you're willing to try to heal and take the first step on a journey, there is hope for you. This I believe.

I don't want to overstep my bounds--but if you've been feeling very distressed about this, or if this has been going on for a long time, you might want to consider seeing a therapist.

It's been about 7 months of feeling this low. Seen a therapist for a few months and honestly, it didn't help all that much. I sensed that she felt overwhelmed all my problems. I have just googled the NI-TI loop and it resonates with me so much. Thank you. I think the more I try to indulge my Fe again, the more like my old self I'll feel.
 

fetus

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It's been about 7 months of feeling this low. Seen a therapist for a few months and honestly, it didn't help all that much. I sensed that she felt overwhelmed all my problems. I have just googled the NI-TI loop and it resonates with me so much. Thank you. I think the more I try to indulge my Fe again, the more like my old self I'll feel.

Whatever works to help you feel better is good. I hope you stay here on this forum! There are quite a few knowledgeable people here who could help you get a grip on your Fe again. :)
 

Estelia

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entp
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xwx
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sx/so
It's hard to really pinpoint T/F if you're going through an emotional hardship right now. After a break up, especially. I think you're an F, but because of the circumstances you're a little closed up right now, which is understandable.. Going with INFJ for you.
 
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