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HPD or unhealthy Fi? Also INFP or ENFP?

ChocolateMoose123

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I believe everyone can change. I really do. Antisocial is tough stuff, but not as hard as its stigma would imply. It's all about trust and praying and wanting to be healed.

Unfortunately most don't want to be. Like Jesus said, "the road to destruction is wide and there are many who go in by it, but narrow is the gate and difficult the road that leads to life, and few find it."

It is admirable that you think so. I have seen many good natured people like yourself taken in by my father. People like him are highly manipulative and lack a conscience. Lack an ability to feel guilt. They will tell you what you want to hear to get what they want. They will feign helplessness. They will even "walk the walk" for a time. All to gain your sympathy/trust to use against you or use you to enact their revenge against another. (Unknowingly to you).

I learned from having a parent like him that actions speak greater than anything else. I have forgiven him. Long ago. I also think God gave me a brain in which to learn what evil is. There is such a thing as a power of discernment.

If they want healing, they can take that journey themselves or with their religious leader. They can stay away from me.
 

AphroditeGoneAwry

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It is admirable that you think so. I have seen many good natured people like yourself taken in by my father. People like him are highly manipulative and lack a conscience. Lack an ability to feel guilt. They will tell you what you want to hear to get what they want. They will feign helplessness. They will even "walk the walk" for a time. All to gain your sympathy/trust to use against you or use you to enact their revenge against another. (Unknowingly to you). I learned from having a parent like him that actions speak greater than anything else. I have forgiven him. Long ago. I also think God gave me a brain in which to learn what evil is. There is such a thing as a power of discernment. If they want healing, they can take that journey themselves or with their religious leader. They can stay away from me.
Yes, I am pretty aware of ASPD by now. :) And it ain't no joke.The thing is, I play hard. And God sends me places others would not dare to go. I am made especially for this. For such a time as this. Of course I genuinely suffer. But I'm always a spirit outside it all, watching it unfold. Safe in some way. Always dominant. Except to the One. Who is the ultimate one in charge here.~s
 

Galaxy Gazer

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Agree with other posters. Also, everything you wrote has nothing to do with Fi.

Maybe not Fi, but a definite lack of Fe. For example, when I'm upset or angry, I avoid expressing it to others, especially when it could ruin the mood of the group. In my opinion, it just seems selfish to ruin the fun and expect everyone to rush to my side. Then again, I also hate confrontation, so that could be why. I don't know many Fi users who share this mindset. My ISFP boyfriend, for example, is very expressive of his emotions in pretty much any situation. But I'm an evil NT, so I must just be hating on Fi, right?
 

cascadeco

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Maybe not Fi, but a definite lack of Fe. For example, when I'm upset or angry, I avoid expressing it to others, especially when it could ruin the mood of the group. In my opinion, it just seems selfish to ruin the fun and expect everyone to rush to my side. Then again, I also hate confrontation, so that could be why. I don't know many Fi users who share this mindset. My ISFP boyfriend, for example, is very expressive of his emotions in pretty much any situation. But I'm an evil NT, so I must just be hating on Fi, right?
Well a lot depends on other factors too, like enneagram or the Fi users' personal values when it comes to how to treat people. For example I'm so-dom, which impacts things a lot. This isn't to say my face isn't expressive and it may be obvious if I'm confused or annoyed or whatever, but I don't have a need to express everything, and I try to be tactful when bringing things up. I've also worked in a lot of environments though, and am on the older side (37), so I agree w/ you it's just not appropriate or useful in many settings. I think I've seen elsewhere on the form that Fi dom can be pretty quiet. It's really going to vary by individual, honestly. (for example as contrast I know some Fe-users who just output everything, Fe can be pretty overwhelming to Fi users; it's just different)
 

Galaxy Gazer

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Well a lot depends on other factors too, like enneagram or the Fi users' personal values when it comes to how to treat people. For example I'm so-dom, which impacts things a lot. This isn't to say my face isn't expressive and it may be obvious if I'm confused or annoyed or whatever, but I don't have a need to express everything, and I try to be tactful when bringing things up. I've also worked in a lot of environments though, and am on the older side (37), so I agree w/ you it's just not appropriate or useful in many settings. I think I've seen elsewhere on the form that Fi dom can be pretty quiet. It's really going to vary by individual, honestly. (for example as contrast I know some Fe-users who just output everything, Fe can be pretty overwhelming to Fi users; it's just different)

Yes, any introverted function can be quiet. But Fi can also be "I'm going to say how I feel and no one can stop me," just like how Fe can be "I only like people who fit in." I never said she was a Fi-dom; I just know she uses Fi.
 
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