ChocolateMoose123
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I see a lot of threads lately with confusion between one letter functions. This may help. [MENTION=22628]Sil[/MENTION] (this person goes into ESTJ more in depth past this. You may want to check out).
Anyway, it may help some people struggling.
Myers & Briggs • ESTJ Personality Type Development
Cognitive functions
mbti-analysis:
Yeah, let’s talk cognitive functions because I feel like a lot of people don’t really understand this. First off, they’re mental processes associated with the MBTI types. And second: your stack is structured the way it is for a reason.
Let’s start with a technical overview of the functions, shall we?
â—‹ ROLE
Perceiving functions - how you take in information.
Ne - Se - how you like engaging in the world and allowing for the intake of information
Ni - Si - how you process new information and apply it to your own understanding
Judging functions - how you respond to and act on the information.
Ti - Fi - how you naturally respond to said information and judge it.
Te - Fe - how you make decisions based on said information and make your response known.
That’s why you have to have one of each; you can’t have two modes of understanding information and none of making decisions; that’s highly unbalanced and redundant. If you struggle with making decisions, it’s not ‘cause you don’t have Fe/Te; it’s probably just inferior and not developed. That’s why position matters:
â—‹ DOMINANCE
Ne - Se - if dominant, you like engaging in the world and allowing for information more so than you like doing anything with said information including necessarily understanding it or acting on it.
Ni - Si - if dominant, you like processing information and understanding it more so than you like being on the lookout for it or acting on it.
Ti - Fi - if dominant, you like responding to information yourself more so than you like taking as much in as you can or acting on it.
Te - Fe - if dominant, you like making decisions and applying information more so than taking it in, understanding it, or really even responding to it.
This isn’t concrete; for example, Te/Fe isn’t the only function making decisions, for example. Someone in an Se-Te loop will highly incorporate Se into Te to make decisions (probably very impulsive ones). None of the functions truly act on their own.
â—‹ EACH FUNCTION
Ne - engages in the world and takes in information through ideas and analysis
Se - engages in the world and takes in information through attention to tangible things
Ni - processes new information through own ideas and applies it to your understanding through analysis
Si - processes new information through experience and applies it to your archive of memories for understanding
Ti - processes and responds to information through logic and what makes sense
Fi - processes and responds to information through emotions and subjectivity
Te - makes decisions and acts on information with logic and what holds true
Fe - makes decisions and acts on information with emotions and empathy
So as an example, an ESFP has the functions: Se Fi Te Ni
ESFPs freely engage in the tangible world to allow for new information. They like to respond to the information on their own account through subjectivity and what’s right and then act based on logic and what holds true. They don’t tend to usually apply said information to themselves or try to understand it.
â—‹ RULES
Now, let’s set a few ground rules beyond that:
The reason why you can’t have two functions of the same letter like Ti and Te is because Te-doms use the outer world to apply information externally to make sense of it. If you already process and make sense of things in your mind, you don’t need to use the outer world to do that. Or if you’ve already acted on said information in the outside world, you don’t need to reflect on it to make sense of it again. That doesn’t work. It can’t be in your nature to do both; that’s just repetitive. That’s why each function is paired with its opposite.
And just because you aren’t emotionless or super emotional doesn’t mean you’re in the middle of the T/F scale like an ESxP. It just means that your middle two functions are probably T and F, and they’re probably close to on the same level, so use them fairly equally. It doesn’t mean you use them both for the same things though because one of them is a mode of responding to information and the other is a mode of making decisions. I don’t care if you put both logic and feelings into decisions (a lot of us do); it doesn’t mean you use both Te and Fe; you just highly incorporate one into the other which is okay.
Your order can’t be of your choosing either because that’s also highly unbalanced. You have a prominent introverted function and a prominent extroverted function (dominant and auxiliary functions); If both of them are about the intake of information (N/S), you’ll never act on it or respond to information. I’m sorry, but that sounds like the result of literal brain damage.
You can be confused about your type and say you’re an INTx; that’s fine. I won’t take offense to what you identify as. But if you wanna actually know your type and understand what the functions are all about, this is it. INTx implies you have all the functions which would be so redundant, you’d go crazy. You can be unsure, and I don’t mind the placeholder, but you can see how, in the theory, it doesn’t make sense to truly be both INTP and INTJ.
Anyway, it may help some people struggling.
Myers & Briggs • ESTJ Personality Type Development
Cognitive functions
mbti-analysis:
Yeah, let’s talk cognitive functions because I feel like a lot of people don’t really understand this. First off, they’re mental processes associated with the MBTI types. And second: your stack is structured the way it is for a reason.
Let’s start with a technical overview of the functions, shall we?
â—‹ ROLE
Perceiving functions - how you take in information.
Ne - Se - how you like engaging in the world and allowing for the intake of information
Ni - Si - how you process new information and apply it to your own understanding
Judging functions - how you respond to and act on the information.
Ti - Fi - how you naturally respond to said information and judge it.
Te - Fe - how you make decisions based on said information and make your response known.
That’s why you have to have one of each; you can’t have two modes of understanding information and none of making decisions; that’s highly unbalanced and redundant. If you struggle with making decisions, it’s not ‘cause you don’t have Fe/Te; it’s probably just inferior and not developed. That’s why position matters:
â—‹ DOMINANCE
Ne - Se - if dominant, you like engaging in the world and allowing for information more so than you like doing anything with said information including necessarily understanding it or acting on it.
Ni - Si - if dominant, you like processing information and understanding it more so than you like being on the lookout for it or acting on it.
Ti - Fi - if dominant, you like responding to information yourself more so than you like taking as much in as you can or acting on it.
Te - Fe - if dominant, you like making decisions and applying information more so than taking it in, understanding it, or really even responding to it.
This isn’t concrete; for example, Te/Fe isn’t the only function making decisions, for example. Someone in an Se-Te loop will highly incorporate Se into Te to make decisions (probably very impulsive ones). None of the functions truly act on their own.
â—‹ EACH FUNCTION
Ne - engages in the world and takes in information through ideas and analysis
Se - engages in the world and takes in information through attention to tangible things
Ni - processes new information through own ideas and applies it to your understanding through analysis
Si - processes new information through experience and applies it to your archive of memories for understanding
Ti - processes and responds to information through logic and what makes sense
Fi - processes and responds to information through emotions and subjectivity
Te - makes decisions and acts on information with logic and what holds true
Fe - makes decisions and acts on information with emotions and empathy
So as an example, an ESFP has the functions: Se Fi Te Ni
ESFPs freely engage in the tangible world to allow for new information. They like to respond to the information on their own account through subjectivity and what’s right and then act based on logic and what holds true. They don’t tend to usually apply said information to themselves or try to understand it.
â—‹ RULES
Now, let’s set a few ground rules beyond that:
The reason why you can’t have two functions of the same letter like Ti and Te is because Te-doms use the outer world to apply information externally to make sense of it. If you already process and make sense of things in your mind, you don’t need to use the outer world to do that. Or if you’ve already acted on said information in the outside world, you don’t need to reflect on it to make sense of it again. That doesn’t work. It can’t be in your nature to do both; that’s just repetitive. That’s why each function is paired with its opposite.
And just because you aren’t emotionless or super emotional doesn’t mean you’re in the middle of the T/F scale like an ESxP. It just means that your middle two functions are probably T and F, and they’re probably close to on the same level, so use them fairly equally. It doesn’t mean you use them both for the same things though because one of them is a mode of responding to information and the other is a mode of making decisions. I don’t care if you put both logic and feelings into decisions (a lot of us do); it doesn’t mean you use both Te and Fe; you just highly incorporate one into the other which is okay.
Your order can’t be of your choosing either because that’s also highly unbalanced. You have a prominent introverted function and a prominent extroverted function (dominant and auxiliary functions); If both of them are about the intake of information (N/S), you’ll never act on it or respond to information. I’m sorry, but that sounds like the result of literal brain damage.
You can be confused about your type and say you’re an INTx; that’s fine. I won’t take offense to what you identify as. But if you wanna actually know your type and understand what the functions are all about, this is it. INTx implies you have all the functions which would be so redundant, you’d go crazy. You can be unsure, and I don’t mind the placeholder, but you can see how, in the theory, it doesn’t make sense to truly be both INTP and INTJ.
