I still have no idea what you mean by "meaning". It sounds vague to me if it does not refer to logical meaning. Logical meaning, as in, true/false, 1 + 1 = 2, etc.
There is data and there is meaning. Data is useless without interpretation. A truth is meaningless without context. Understanding how things fit and the why behind it all is important.
Big Data is the rage currently. Massive numbers of data points can be extrapolated in order to show patterns. It isn't my field but I touched the periphery once or twice. The problem I have read about is that the results are only as good as the questions and understanding.
In major league baseball, sabermetrics is the name of the game, Moneyball idea. You mentioned sports and analysis in your first post, so I suspect you are familiar with it. Data analytics have shown distinct patterns that teams can use to get more efficiency from their players and budgets.
I live in the Dallas area and while the Rangers are not my team and I follow baseball extremely casually these days, I have followed how this played out in the last few years.
When the current ownership came in, they brought in a young data hound and Nolan Ryan. At first, they seemed to work together on building team success, getting to the World Series two years in a row.
But eventually Ryan was pushed out, especially after he objected to the roster changes. The team dropped off without Ryan in management and most of the discarded players had career years after leaving. The team had some improvement this year, but it isn't contending for the World Series.
The point is the data was useless without understanding.
I have had the opportunity over the years to see a lot of raw data regarding corporations and their decision making process. Many have become completely data driven, only working on data and case studies. Yet they often miss the forest for the trees. They do data driven decisions without meaning or value or impact or the big picture. I have seen the same crappy decision making over and over again.
The best entrepreneurs often move on gut feelings rather than data and logic.
Fe and Ni at the their best together find meaning and understanding and insight everywhere.
If you still struggle with what meaning is, go listen to Justin Bieber for a bit--he has a song in the topic.
Ultimately, this entire thread is one giant pursuit of meaning...
Have you ever seen the Ti/Fe loop as contrasted to your Fe/Ti loop?
That would be in some ways similar and some ways the opposite.
You can't loop two judging functions.
A ISTP or ESTP can loop into a SeFe loop. A TiNi would be theoretically possible if you bypassed your primary perceiving function.
I could do a FeSe loop, I guess, or even a SeTi loop. I suspect I did at times over the last few decades as I often rejected my intuition and feelings at times. Not good places.
A INTP or ENTP normally do NeFe loops. My INTP son does that. It is scary mixing endless possibilities with a need to find meaning externally. He gets off into some really bizarre paranoia.....
It wasn't your Fe that wasn't conscious, it was your Ti, unable to put together the facts to find your type, such as, facts on how you are social, ending up scmoozing people, etc.
I didn't care about type or personality or psychology, etc, even though they would have helped my work at the time. I wasn't consciously schmoozing. I wasn't trying to be a people person. I thought I sucked at socializing, even as I am damn good at it, connecting to people in seconds and finding ways to touch them without effort.
Yes, people trusted me and connected to me easily, but I didn't see that. I didn't have conscious awareness about how easily I navigated social structures. And since I tried to consciously navigate them with Ti, I really screwed things up for myself on more than a few occasions over the last few decades, where even simple Fe usage would have made things work far better and resulted in better outcomes.
I viewed myself as super logical. I could out argue anyone, even my ENTP brother.
Again, it was your Fe dominating your Ti, if you thought you were different from how you acted (also low Sensing). This is a typical FeNi problem.
Nope. I thought I was into logic and just logic. I know exactly how I was and how it fits into the theories. I was thinking usually like a EFJ in the grip of inf Ti.
I've been studying the Fe-doms, trying to see how they can call logic that thing they utilize. I'm not quite understanding of it yet. Though I'm getting there
For example, I have a good friend who's FeNi, she's still trying to find herself though like you were in that phase of your life. I recommended Jung to her, she's finally started reading it and pretty soon she got stuck on this passage:
"Everyone is, admittedly, orientated by the data with which the outer world provides him ; yet we see that this may be the case in a way that is only relatively decisive. Because it is cold out of doors, one man is persuaded to wear his overcoat, another from a desire to become hardened finds this unnecessary; one man admires the new tenor because all the world admires him, another withholds his approbation not because he dislikes him"
She instantly declared that this is biased and is just talking about "independent thinking" (a strong Fe value of hers). I tried to explain to her twice that the examples are just examples but they are not the same as the concept of introversion and extraversion itself, which does not contain any statements about extraverts not being able to think for their own. In the end she said, okay, she'll read on and I said I'm sure it'll all add up for her eventually
This, in my opinion, is a very good example of how Fe cannot think what it cannot feel.
And, it's an example of when Fe-dom declares themselves logical. This isn't what I call logical myself because what I call logical is mathematics, not social values. This example about her thinking here is Fe logic, not Ti logic.
I don't relate to your friend at all. People view me as super logical. I viewed myself as super logical. I navigate logical systems with ease.
The joy of long time in the loop is that I gained a pretty well developed Ti. Being in the grip or in a loop has major benefits if you can grow from it.