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I am my type, but don't "look" it. Why?

great_bay

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You're way too aggressive for an ENFJ. You also don't give enough lip-service to types despite having extroverted feeling as your leading function.
 

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A bit tangential, but funny: My mom, a fellow NFJ 1w2 (but probably so/sx), sent me this email right after I wrote her something a few minutes ago. Background: it's 12:40 my time and 10:40 her time.

You're up too late! Go To Sleep. NOW.

:)

<3 <3 <3 <3

^ This is my new favorite example of how 1w2 influences Fe and vice versa. :laugh:
 

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Fe doms can be the pushiest of the bunch. Especially if they strongly believe in their own stance, compounded in more unbalanced specimens by being immune to evidence and reason.

Not saying you are, or many are, just some are. You definitely come across more stereotypically warm and socially aware in that video with the ESJ twins and the Calamari. The stuff about friends who are worthy..etc...is just discernment which most people have, but with Ni it becomes extremely fine discernment. You say other ENFJ's aren't like you, but that sounds more like a wrestle with self-identification than anything categorical in a system of psychological types.

Self-typing is probably better than typing others in terms of accuracy, even though I see typology as a light spread on that account. Any bluntness you exude probably comes from a righteous notion of correctness, something all types, but EJ's in particular have a penchant for (yknow the whole judgement bubbling at the surface and quick to opinionate). Basically if you're being blunt, it's because you are convicted in your stance.

Not that this is a bad thing, in fact it's more often a huge strength. But it's not always the better option. No one who didn't believe spurious online descriptions said that feeling types have to be accommodating.
 

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So this has been on my mind ever since the meetup with [MENTION=19948]Showbread[/MENTION] [MENTION=23115]BadOctopus[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4945]EJCC[/MENTION] several weeks ago, and I want to talk it out.

I am not calling my type into question. I know I am ENFJ, and I also know I am 1w2. The former though is somewhat odd to me. I know I am ENFJ because I definitely work foremost with Fe in my mind, and I supplement it with fairly equal parts Ni and Se (though I did not begin using the latter "right" until this past fall). Though it doesn't always come across that way.

I don't look like an ENFJ, and I want to understand why.

Note, I am only pointing out the external differences that most fly counter to what ENFJ usually is: On the surface, I appear like a Te dom, in some situations I sometimes look like an Se dom (though that's uncommon), but I don't really look like an Fe dom, and I am comparing myself to many other Fe doms that I know. There's four of us ENFJ's in my core friend group, and while all of us are very similar and can be "lumped together" there are areas where I am fundementally different with how I externally operate, and I don't know any other ENFJ's that share this. On issues, I actually quite often see eye to eye much more easily with several of my ISTJ friends. First and foremost, I am blunt and straightforward, and I can willingly turn my empathy on and off for many situations. I don't know any other Fe doms that can, or are even willing to do this. For example, if someone around me fucks up and does something wrong, and doesn't care, even if I know them well I will subject them to what the situation deserves, and will very unlikely feel sorry for them.

I'm also very apt to use "precedent" for solving situations and making judgement calls. My ENFJ friends (and as far as I can tell) most other ENFJ's don't really use that, and it's not their first line to do so. The reason I do so is it's less likely to make error to base something off a known. It's not actually my MO per-say, it's a learned skill. Nevertheless, much like I've learned how to socialize, it's become so ingrained in me that I automatically do it without consciously deciding to do so.

I don't want to be friends with the world, I want to be friends with people who are worthy. That sounds elitist (and it likely is), but I don't know how to word it otherwise (maybe people I can communicate well with?). Many ENFJ's I know (if not all?) want to be friends with nearly everyone they encounter, want to lift everyone up, and want everyone to be on the same level field. I definitely don't. Many even go out of their way to befriend people who are "broken" or something for the soul reason of feeling "they deserve a friend" or "I can fix that". I do not feel that is my responsibility at all, and I only do that unless there is reason to do so. It's not my MO at all. I associate with people where there is a mutual gain between both parties. Most ENFJ's actively seek the things I go against when it comes to people.

I can be very driving, very blunt/forceful, and have no issues imposing my will on other people. It doesn't need to be fueled by emotion or subjectivity either. In fact, I am far more comfortable with it when I have a solid external reason, authority, or solid item I can reference in an unambiguous manner. That way if people challenge it, it can't really be debated or pushed back against using a loophole or some bullshit technicality. Most ENFJ's are fairly forward, but aren't directly blunt or actively driving of others. In particular in an unambiguous manner. They tend to do much better when it is based off ambiguity.

Those are the big ones, I am sure others will come up/come out as the discussion ensues. Still, it's very puzzling to me why have so many atributes that go against what ENFJ's typically are. I know it happens occasionally, but that doesn't make it seem any less bizarre, or potentially invalidating. There's a reason Fe is associated with friendliness and inclusiveness. Just as Ni is associated with going with your gut and not needing a historical backing. I go opposite of those stereotypes. It's just the frequency and level that I go against them is high enough that it almost doesn't fit, despite thinking through those functions.

Thoughts? Questions? Discuss.

Because how you cognate or your cognitive order is just that. Cognitive order. The patterns that emerge from that are not correlated 1 to 1. Their are so many different inputs involved. You could be very very different from someone who also is your type. A good analogy would be twins who are very different.
 

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Most of the described details can be bulked up to the difference between internal and external perception. What a person is experienced as to others is often distinct from what they experience themselves as, and this can extend to differences common to types as well.

For instance while others might see other ENFJs as discilined to "take a cold rational seriously", it's very likely that on a case by case basis, each ENFJ does believe themselves to be acting rational, since their choices & decisions make sense to them, it's part of why they make them in the first place. You are just seen the exact same phenomena from inside and comparing it how it looks when you see it in others on the outside.

Essentially: You probably do look like an Fe dom, just... Not to you.
 

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It's the enneagram man. 1w2 is gonna come off harsher and more cerebral than your average Fe dom. Embrace your badassnees my dear.

E1 strive to be good or flawless or perfectionists or right or perfect or something within those lines. Telling them they are badass might not be the best compliment. Although it is an awesome compliment.

It's like telling an e4 'girl i like your style, i suppose it is the latest trend cus every stylish girl is using.'

Althougn it's a compliment it would actually annoy them.

I think they would rathet here ' your style is bizarre/weird.'

I am assuming here.

Lets find out whether i am right. Hard, [MENTION=4945]EJCC[/MENTION] you guys are so messy, disorganized, unplanned, impulsive and unstructured it's actually kinda cool.
 

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You remind me a lot of my father and he is very, very likely a Fe dom. He can come off as very "pushy" (as another member just labelled you) and might "vibe" as an ETJ at first glance. Te doms, to me, actually come across as more subdued and less opinionated, which perhaps stems from their need to have a solid base of facts before reaching conclusions. Am I right, [MENTION=4945]EJCC[/MENTION]?

I'm not saying you make arguments with no basis in facts; you make well-thought, persuasive arguments, in most cases that I've observed. Fe doms seem to be very, very persuasive when they want to be. I'd probably be terrified of you if we didn't agree so often on politics. Te doms (and auxiliary users) don't scare me in the same way and I think I actually enjoy arguing with them, especially when I can confound them or find find flaws in their logic to trip them up. In that regard, I might seem a bit of a troll. But enough about me.

I know you're not questioning your type but I think it's accurate. It becomes most apparent when you engage other members in political debate. You seem to "know" when you're right (Ni), so I think you only engage in debates/arguments you are A) invested in emotionally and B) know you can win or at least make a very strong case for your point of view. You also tend to argue from a Fe-Ti way of thinking as opposed to Fi-Te. You seem to make points and arguments regarding collective values more than you do for individual values. Your Ti may be inferior and unconscious, but it comes through in your argument style.
 

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[MENTION=19700]Starcrash[/MENTION] I think it's almost the reverse of that: Te-doms need to come to "working conclusions" in order to proceed, and they care a lot about quick and decisive action, so my experience is that I tend to have a working opinion on absolutely everything, all the time*. The difference is that because so many of those opinions come from so little information, 1) we're not passionate about most of them, and 2) we have pretty much no emotional stake in most of them, and are therefore easy to correct (assuming you have better data than ours).

*This isn't to say we totally ignore facts in those situations. But as an ESTJ, that's when I start to try to put relevant trends together via Si/Ne and infer the most likely correct opinion based on that.
 

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I'm pretty sure, you are intuitive type [MENTION=20829]Hard[/MENTION] and the F fits too.

As I see MBTI (and here I begin;)) it's more about how we receive different signals and understand the world (even considering extroverted functions)than about behaviour and the behaviour is what people see. So people from one type can appear very differently, some of these traits may be described by Enneagram perhaps, but not all as we can never describe personality completely.
I know well two ENFJs and they are very different : one is completely like ENTJs descriptions and her tritype (if it's any help) is probably 279 and the second is more strict and solid than descriptions - I would say the tritype is 682 or 683.
 

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[MENTION=19700]Starcrash[/MENTION] I think it's almost the reverse of that: Te-doms need to come to "working conclusions" in order to proceed, and they care a lot about quick and decisive action, so my experience is that I tend to have a working opinion on absolutely everything, all the time*. The difference is that because so many of those opinions come from so little information, 1) we're not passionate about most of them, and 2) we have pretty much no emotional stake in most of them, and are therefore easy to correct (assuming you have better data than ours).

*This isn't to say we totally ignore facts in those situations. But as an ESTJ, that's when I start to try to put relevant trends together via Si/Ne and infer the most likely correct opinion based on that.

Perhaps it's that's detachment or apparent lack of passion which lends them a more laid-back demeanor (to me). I'd rather argue with a Te (dom/aux) user any day, but I don't think they're less or more effective arguers than Fe (dom/aux) users, just less emotionally invested (at least on the surface) than their Fe counterparts. If I'm arguing with someone who is more emotionally invested in their argument, it can make me uneasy (I can also get uncomfortable arguing with Fi doms for similar reasons) and I end up ceding far more ground than I should, or simply retreat because I find outward displays of emotion make me uncomfortable.

Sorry, I'm taking this off topic. I'm done.
 

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If I was to make baseless inane speculation; I would guess that as a Fe dom the environment within which you developed was unusual. Parental figures/important influences where either hyper rational imbuing the empiricism that resounds through your posts. Or alternatively they were the other side of the spectrum mystical and completely devoid of a sense of reality. Increase the impact of the cause, Increase the effect. What you argue about, and the angle you argue it from is different, but the way you argue it seems ENFJ to me.

As for not testing as a N on MBTI Tests, I would put that down to enneagram bias. Though I do disagree on them being particularly Ne/Si, they are too vague its just the standard abstract/concrete divide. Applicable to the function regardless of orientation. Is your tritype 136?

Though I do hold your instinctual variants with some suspicion. I would guess so/sp/sx. I've always thought the three glasses analogy was an excellent explanation for how they influence us. The first glass is filled to the brim with liquid, no matter what you do it spills on to everything. The second glass is half filled, you can take it with you and do as you please. The last glass is empty.

To put it in terms of online communication. Sp/So are excellent communicators, but there is a defensive barricaded measure to what they say. One has to breach the wall in order to get to know them. They have to overcome the wall in order to talk.

You appear to be a so first. Is there a thread biased on real world or forum societal interaction that you haven’t posted and had an opinion about? Sp/so pick their battles. Whereas with you it seems to be almost a compulsive need to assert your opinion.
 

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:shrug: I do think you look like an ENFJ, actually. As a fellow Fe dom, and someone who has had two ENFJ roommates, as well as one other close ENFJ friend, I'll explain why. Oh, and a more casual ENFJ friend that I touch base with from tim

I don't look like an ENFJ, and I want to understand why.


First and foremost, I am blunt and straightforward, and I can willingly turn my empathy on and off for many situations. I don't know any other Fe doms that can, or are even willing to do this. For example, if someone around me fucks up and does something wrong, and doesn't care, even if I know them well I will subject them to what the situation deserves, and will very unlikely feel sorry for them.

I can definitely do this as well, as can most (if not all) of the ENFJs I know. Fe doms have a large capacity to be compassionate and empathetic. But we also have a great capacity to be objective and see the social consequences of actions. I think our sympathies are primarily triggered by injustice, (like a Te-dom) or people who have been wronged completely outside their control. When people dig themselves into a deep hole it takes a conscious effort for me to feel sorry for them.

I don't want to be friends with the world, I want to be friends with people who are worthy. That sounds elitist (and it likely is), but I don't know how to word it otherwise (maybe people I can communicate well with?). Many ENFJ's I know (if not all?) want to be friends with nearly everyone they encounter, want to lift everyone up, and want everyone to be on the same level field. I definitely don't. Many even go out of their way to befriend people who are "broken" or something for the soul reason of feeling "they deserve a friend" or "I can fix that". I do not feel that is my responsibility at all, and I only do that unless there is reason to do so. It's not my MO at all. I associate with people where there is a mutual gain between both parties. Most ENFJ's actively seek the things I go against when it comes to people.

Maybe we just know very different ENFJs, because I only know one who does the bolded. And it's more because she just insanely religious and has a total savior complex. Most of the ENFJs I know like to be liked, but also realize that you just can't be friends with everyone, it's a waste of time. In the process of getting shit done, some people's toes will get stepped on, and not everyone will like you. I think it's the default of Fe to want to help/please others. But more mature Fe users recognize that you really can't win all the time and it's better to choose who's worth your time.

I can be very driving, very blunt/forceful, and have no issues imposing my will on other people. It doesn't need to be fueled by emotion or subjectivity either. In fact, I am far more comfortable with it when I have a solid external reason, authority, or solid item I can reference in an unambiguous manner. That way if people challenge it, it can't really be debated or pushed back against using a loophole or some bullshit technicality. Most ENFJ's are fairly forward, but aren't directly blunt or actively driving of others. In particular in an unambiguous manner. They tend to do much better when it is based off ambiguity.

First bolded = story of my life, and all my ENFJ friends. All of that concern with being socially acceptable kind of flies out the window when other people are just wrong. :laugh:

Second bolded I think is probably due to your science background shaping the way you reason. Once you get into that research oriented/cause and effect style of thinking it just kind of leaks into everything, at least it has for me. I don't know if I would say the ENFJs in my life like basing their reasoning on ambiguity... I think most of them are more comfortable with abstract concepts than I am, hence N vs. S. But when I think of a type that is comfortable with ambiguous reasonings and loophole/technicality arguments I definitely think more of Fi/Ne than Fe/Ni.
 

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Thoughts? Questions? Discuss.


I believe that it is time that we finally meet since I have came across a number of your posts about enneagram 1 type that I have liked very much.
You, EJCC and a few articles are the main reason why my 8w9 fix has become 1w9 fix upon closer look when I tried to determine my tritype.



As for you dilema:
I would say that the catch is in your enneagram. The 1 or 1w2 part is not so important here as much as the 3w4 and 6w5 that are sitting at the back behind 1w2.
In my opinion these two are the most responsible for this unfeeling vibe that you find so foreign in yourself. Also when all 3 types are combined you get the "the taskmasker" tritype, which is one on the most likely tritypes to see people as "pawns" and insures that everyone does their job. In other words all those other ENFJs that you know are probably not 136 and sx last. What would explain the difference between you and them. ENFJs are usually sx first or second and they may also be 2s, 3s, 4s and 6s, which are all numbers in different triads.





In a way I see the similar problem as yours in myself. I am INTJ 5w6, 1w9, 3w4 Sp/So/Sx however that 1w9 and 3w4 give my core type one forceful and determined feeing that is very atypical for type 5. Even tritype type descriptions say that this type of five will be different from the more classical and random 5s that are lost in their head. Actually when I arrange my thoughs and move out into execution I can look pretty much like a 8w9 or 1w9 even if I am not one those types in my core. Also it is not impossible that I score as ENTJ on function tests or as 8w9/1w9. (5w6 grows into 8w9).


Through out years a lot of people found me to be intimidating and ruthless no mater what I do and it took me quite a bit of time to understand where is the problem. In the end it turned our that the loop between 1w9 and 3w4 is just too determined and structured for most people and most real life situation. What is even further enhanced by emotional detachment of type 5, 6 wing, sx last instinct, and unbalanced Ni/Te loop. Actuallty because of this the whole INTJ/ENFP thing for me does not work nicely as it should because the 1-3-Te loop is just too rigid for a typical ENFP girl, even if in the terms of MBTI we are perfect for each other and there is initial attraction.



Therefore I suggest that you do not take your 3w4 and 6w5 fixes too lightly since they can make huge differance in various loops of behaviour.
 

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Fe doms can be the pushiest of the bunch. Especially if they strongly believe in their own stance, compounded in more unbalanced specimens by being immune to evidence and reason.

Not saying you are, or many are, just some are. You definitely come across more stereotypically warm and socially aware in that video with the ESJ twins and the Calamari. The stuff about friends who are worthy..etc...is just discernment which most people have, but with Ni it becomes extremely fine discernment. You say other ENFJ's aren't like you, but that sounds more like a wrestle with self-identification than anything categorical in a system of psychological types.

Self-typing is probably better than typing others in terms of accuracy, even though I see typology as a light spread on that account. Any bluntness you exude probably comes from a righteous notion of correctness, something all types, but EJ's in particular have a penchant for (yknow the whole judgement bubbling at the surface and quick to opinionate). Basically if you're being blunt, it's because you are convicted in your stance.

Not that this is a bad thing, in fact it's more often a huge strength. But it's not always the better option. No one who didn't believe spurious online descriptions said that feeling types have to be accommodating.

The Calamari, I love it :laugh:.

Yeah this thread is making me realize that I am having bad self perception. Mainly stemming from the fact that I don't see a perfect fit, and then defaulting to there must be some other reason because of it. It seems like I do fit, just in an odd way? Not sure how to word it, but essentially it's not as off as my self perception has lead me to believe.

E1 strive to be good or flawless or perfectionists or right or perfect or something within those lines. Telling them they are badass might not be the best compliment. Although it is an awesome compliment.

It's like telling an e4 'girl i like your style, i suppose it is the latest trend cus every stylish girl is using.'

Althougn it's a compliment it would actually annoy them.

I think they would rathet here ' your style is bizarre/weird.'

I am assuming here.

Lets find out whether i am right. Hard, @EJCC you guys are so messy, disorganized, unplanned, impulsive and unstructured it's actually kinda cool.

I took it as a compliment :shrug:. A bit of hyperbole, but a compliment nonetheless.
 

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i suppose the reason i can't see you as an ENFJ is that i associate Fe with having a certain social grace, and although i can see that your values come from an Fe place, your method of expressing them is much more cold, harsh, and steamrollery than i would expect an Fe-user to behave. which could be due to enneagram or being raised in a Te-heavy family.
 

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You remind me a lot of my father and he is very, very likely a Fe dom. He can come off as very "pushy" (as another member just labelled you) and might "vibe" as an ETJ at first glance. Te doms, to me, actually come across as more subdued and less opinionated, which perhaps stems from their need to have a solid base of facts before reaching conclusions. Am I right, @EJCC?

I'm not saying you make arguments with no basis in facts; you make well-thought, persuasive arguments, in most cases that I've observed. Fe doms seem to be very, very persuasive when they want to be. I'd probably be terrified of you if we didn't agree so often on politics. Te doms (and auxiliary users) don't scare me in the same way and I think I actually enjoy arguing with them, especially when I can confound them or find find flaws in their logic to trip them up. In that regard, I might seem a bit of a troll. But enough about me.

I know you're not questioning your type but I think it's accurate. It becomes most apparent when you engage other members in political debate. You seem to "know" when you're right (Ni), so I think you only engage in debates/arguments you are A) invested in emotionally and B) know you can win or at least make a very strong case for your point of view. You also tend to argue from a Fe-Ti way of thinking as opposed to Fi-Te. You seem to make points and arguments regarding collective values more than you do for individual values. Your Ti may be inferior and unconscious, but it comes through in your argument style.

Well, it's reassuring to know that when I debate (espically politics) I don't come across as feeble :laugh:. I consistently feel several steps behind everyone else in those areas unless it links in to science or other areas I have extensive experience with. Nevertheless, your analyses here seem accurate. I think little of my Ti. I know I "use" it, but I am unable to see when I do since I tend to regard my other functions as doing the lifting, and generally only notice them. I try *really* hard to solidify what I think and know in debates, because if I don't I fear I won't be taken seriously, but it's very difficult for me to do. While collective values trumps individual in most cases for me, I know some Te/Fi axis people that regard the same. Maybe they just approach it differently?

@Starcrash I think it's almost the reverse of that: Te-doms need to come to "working conclusions" in order to proceed, and they care a lot about quick and decisive action, so my experience is that I tend to have a working opinion on absolutely everything, all the time*. The difference is that because so many of those opinions come from so little information, 1) we're not passionate about most of them, and 2) we have pretty much no emotional stake in most of them, and are therefore easy to correct (assuming you have better data than ours).

*This isn't to say we totally ignore facts in those situations. But as an ESTJ, that's when I start to try to put relevant trends together via Si/Ne and infer the most likely correct opinion based on that.

I actually relate to this. I have an opinion on everything. My research adviser, friends, and family playfully tease me about. My adviser will stop and dramatically go "WAIT... Hard doesn't have an opinion on something? Stop the presses, this is one for the books!". That said a difference here is I have a bad tendancy to throw a lot of passion and emotion stake into all of my opinions. I have to actively resist that urge. It seems somewhat alien to me to not have that, despite making myself do so in much of the cases.

Perhaps it's that's detachment or apparent lack of passion which lends them a more laid-back demeanor (to me). I'd rather argue with a Te (dom/aux) user any day, but I don't think they're less or more effective arguers than Fe (dom/aux) users, just less emotionally invested (at least on the surface) than their Fe counterparts. If I'm arguing with someone who is more emotionally invested in their argument, it can make me uneasy (I can also get uncomfortable arguing with Fi doms for similar reasons) and I end up ceding far more ground than I should, or simply retreat because I find outward displays of emotion make me uncomfortable.

Sorry, I'm taking this off topic. I'm done.

I've never really regarded Te doms as laid back. Though to differentiate between Te and Fe doms, I'd say the former is not tense, and the latter is very tense. However, Fe doms seem to weather through tension far better for much longer. I also have no problem arguing with people who are emotionally invested. I usually find it easier. Depending on who they are, I will either match their expression, or go completely expressionless and show no feeling. Which ever will be more effective.
 

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If I was to make baseless inane speculation; I would guess that as a Fe dom the environment within which you developed was unusual.

So this is very interesting because is completely accurate. Because

Parental figures/important influences where either hyper rational imbuing the empiricism that resounds through your posts.

This is/was my father growing up, and

Or alternatively they were the other side of the spectrum mystical and completely devoid of a sense of reality.

this is/was my mother growing up. Both divorced when I was 3, and I spent roughly equal time with then through my childhood and teenage years. When I was younger I aligned with my mother, and then around when I turned 20 I aligned with my father more. I now see them as equally good/bad, but because of the unfortunate insanity (born of conspiracy theories) of my mother I still align with my father more.

Increase the impact of the cause, Increase the effect. What you argue about, and the angle you argue it from is different, but the way you argue it seems ENFJ to me.

How is it different? I understand that it might be difficult to put to words, and if you can't that's fine and I totally understand, but it's the big thing I am looking for here. I want to put it to words. You definitely hit a major portion of where it came from though.

As for not testing as a N on MBTI Tests, I would put that down to enneagram bias. Though I do disagree on them being particularly Ne/Si, they are too vague its just the standard abstract/concrete divide. Applicable to the function regardless of orientation. Is your tritype 136?

Yes that is my tritype. From my prospective, most tests seem to have a slight bias towards wording N towards Ne over Ni, and when Ni is used it's made out to be this mystical magical thing that I just can't identify with. Some tests I come across though cut through the BS and then I will align with it. Even so my N score is fairly low as it's balanced out by Se. But yes, the vaugeness can be a problem.

Though I do hold your instinctual variants with some suspicion. I would guess so/sp/sx. I've always thought the three glasses analogy was an excellent explanation for how they influence us. The first glass is filled to the brim with liquid, no matter what you do it spills on to everything. The second glass is half filled, you can take it with you and do as you please. The last glass is empty.

To put it in terms of online communication. Sp/So are excellent communicators, but there is a defensive barricaded measure to what they say. One has to breach the wall in order to get to know them. They have to overcome the wall in order to talk.

You appear to be a so first. Is there a thread biased on real world or forum societal interaction that you haven’t posted and had an opinion about? Sp/so pick their battles. Whereas with you it seems to be almost a compulsive need to assert your opinion.

I honestly pay little attention to instinctual varients. All I know is that I am sx last. The few times I have taken instinctual varient tests, so and sp are usually very close, if not equal. When I read about them, I relate to both of them. I forget who said it (I want to say Showbread, but I am not sure), but someone remarked that I can't be sp first because I am careless about my physical safety. I disagreed, but I see where they were coming from... given I have eaten lab chemicals out of curiosity, I will readily jump off a cliff into a lake if I know it's deep enough, find heights, going fast, and adrenaline rushes to be the best, I will drink like a fish when I drink. The list goes on. I still always pay careful mind to my physical safety and security though, I'm just very trusting of how I interpret it.

Yeah I do have a compulsion to share my opinion. It's not often I withhold it. I mean, I do, but compared to most people (not just on the forum) I definitely don't hold back. It actually stresses me out when I have to withhold my opinion in some contexts. Usually, I will have to vent/express it to someone in private later. I always chalked that up to being an Fe dom though, not stacking. I definitely don't need to overcome walls to speak.

I'll have to read into stacking more this evening and later this week when I have time. Luckily I was able to reply now because my adviser is another building, and my brain needed some extra time to power up this morning.


I'll get to the other replies later today/tonight. I need to get to work. Thanks everyone!
 

Evee

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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
5w4
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Because you place far more importance on actualities, rather than possibilities, I think you are not an intuitive type, but a sensing type.
 
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