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I am
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- Jun 6, 2013
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- MBTI Type
- INFP
- Enneagram
- 4w3
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/so
of MBTI and another type crisis. I had been typed INFP for quite a time, but recently as someone might have noticed, I changed it to INFJ. Now what's the confusion, quite a few things really. I might have a list, that might or might not be clear enough to evaluate. I've got some things against and for types and functions, so if anyone is willing to participate I'd be glad.
So why not Fi:
-I know when I am going to say that I carry on no moral or ethical values, some might argue that the word morality or ethics is neither right nor precise enough to describe the true essence of introverted feeling, but I am here to say... I can hardly imagine an INFP that is unethical or immoral even in a traditional sense of way. I have a healthy sense of morals, but I can hardly say they are my guide in life, nor that they carry most of the importance.
-Now what is really important for me is my sense of self and individuality, which definitely screams Fi, but the emphasis I put on myself in ethical way are weakened by the sense of vision I try to carry on. More so in the means of artistic, original and aesthetic idea of the self and of the world around. I have a strong idea of who I want to be and a strong sense of how I want the world around me be changed and adapted to this personal vision.
-The strongest emphasis I put on matters of art and aesthetics, which for me are a form of applying this ideal into the real world. Everything I do, everything I wear, everything I say is just an expression of the ideal I carry in my mind, from the most basic things to the most important.
- I am decisive, individualistic and stubborn when it comes to this ideal of myself and my environment, rarely let anyone else to have any word to it and ready to fight for my absolute control over it at any moment. That's why I can't stand the idea of being too close to anyone, too open or too vulnerable.
- I am fairly conflictual person for an Fi user I do not start meaningless arguments, but mainly I am intellectually aware of, or at least I believe I am, smarter than average. So picking up strongly intellectual, or abstract fight with no personal emphasis is really no problem for me. In such fight I am objective, impersonal and fairly detached from any emotions or morals.
- Whenever I see something's wrong I feel like I need to pin point it. Not to degrade anyone, just to make a point and to actually help people to see what's right.
- I am fairly critical for an F generally
Why Ni
- I honestly think my valuing of individuality, art and aesthetics are far more Ni than anything else.
- My ideal and vision I try to follow are also more Ni.
- I am hyper aware of the aesthetics, fashion and style and their impact, but not like Se users. I am aware of how they manifest an idea, an individuality a thought. And that's all I want to and ever wanted... The expression of idea through a piece of art. And art can be anything, even the clothes I'm wearing right now is the expression of myself and therefore a piece of art.
- I judge people, things and my environment based on the patterns I noticed. I read through their image, their mimic, their style of walk and I can notice things that really might not be obvious to others.
- For an Ne user, I am fairly aware of my opinions and fairly stubborn and rigid about their rightness.
- I am good at seeing one thing in many different perspectives. And by many I mean... thousands and hundreds. I see everything as subjective and relative.
- I know how to work with symbols that work in a group or community to create an illusion I want to. For example I know how to dress to create a certain idea of myself, that's basically all I do... I create an idea...of something...
I create an idea of me, the world, how it should be and why it should be.
I know, only 2 functions. But these are the 2 I am mostly torn between. Now I want to know whether what I wrote is more Ni or Fi and what possible type it might create? I am also aware of the fact I am an e 4 and a lot of stuff I wrote there is pure enneagram 4. Sometimes it's hard to see where the enneagram begins and the MBTI ends, that might make the whole thing a bit unclear. Although I believe it's clear enough to analyze, so if anyone has an insight... I can add other functions too, those 2 are just basis of my doubt so far.
So why not Fi:
-I know when I am going to say that I carry on no moral or ethical values, some might argue that the word morality or ethics is neither right nor precise enough to describe the true essence of introverted feeling, but I am here to say... I can hardly imagine an INFP that is unethical or immoral even in a traditional sense of way. I have a healthy sense of morals, but I can hardly say they are my guide in life, nor that they carry most of the importance.
-Now what is really important for me is my sense of self and individuality, which definitely screams Fi, but the emphasis I put on myself in ethical way are weakened by the sense of vision I try to carry on. More so in the means of artistic, original and aesthetic idea of the self and of the world around. I have a strong idea of who I want to be and a strong sense of how I want the world around me be changed and adapted to this personal vision.
-The strongest emphasis I put on matters of art and aesthetics, which for me are a form of applying this ideal into the real world. Everything I do, everything I wear, everything I say is just an expression of the ideal I carry in my mind, from the most basic things to the most important.
- I am decisive, individualistic and stubborn when it comes to this ideal of myself and my environment, rarely let anyone else to have any word to it and ready to fight for my absolute control over it at any moment. That's why I can't stand the idea of being too close to anyone, too open or too vulnerable.
- I am fairly conflictual person for an Fi user I do not start meaningless arguments, but mainly I am intellectually aware of, or at least I believe I am, smarter than average. So picking up strongly intellectual, or abstract fight with no personal emphasis is really no problem for me. In such fight I am objective, impersonal and fairly detached from any emotions or morals.
- Whenever I see something's wrong I feel like I need to pin point it. Not to degrade anyone, just to make a point and to actually help people to see what's right.
- I am fairly critical for an F generally
Why Ni
- I honestly think my valuing of individuality, art and aesthetics are far more Ni than anything else.
- My ideal and vision I try to follow are also more Ni.
- I am hyper aware of the aesthetics, fashion and style and their impact, but not like Se users. I am aware of how they manifest an idea, an individuality a thought. And that's all I want to and ever wanted... The expression of idea through a piece of art. And art can be anything, even the clothes I'm wearing right now is the expression of myself and therefore a piece of art.
- I judge people, things and my environment based on the patterns I noticed. I read through their image, their mimic, their style of walk and I can notice things that really might not be obvious to others.
- For an Ne user, I am fairly aware of my opinions and fairly stubborn and rigid about their rightness.
- I am good at seeing one thing in many different perspectives. And by many I mean... thousands and hundreds. I see everything as subjective and relative.
- I know how to work with symbols that work in a group or community to create an illusion I want to. For example I know how to dress to create a certain idea of myself, that's basically all I do... I create an idea...of something...
I create an idea of me, the world, how it should be and why it should be.
I know, only 2 functions. But these are the 2 I am mostly torn between. Now I want to know whether what I wrote is more Ni or Fi and what possible type it might create? I am also aware of the fact I am an e 4 and a lot of stuff I wrote there is pure enneagram 4. Sometimes it's hard to see where the enneagram begins and the MBTI ends, that might make the whole thing a bit unclear. Although I believe it's clear enough to analyze, so if anyone has an insight... I can add other functions too, those 2 are just basis of my doubt so far.
