Help me figure out my type for good? INTJ or INFJ?

[Kullervo]

OP, compare yours to mine:

0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.

Not unless you count alcohol

1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackkni...ore-2014-03-09

Photoshop anyone? The same guy is present in the picture in multiple positions, and the way he is positioned against the background is awkward. So i'm thinking, this is kind of lame. Why couldn't he take a photo of himself somewhere that he's actually been? I could also read into it further, and assume the person who uploaded the picture has narcissistic tendencies due to a desire to impose himself more than would be naturally possible...but i digress.

2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?

F***ing hell, this is why I HATE public transport!!! So f**ing unreliable!!!

I'd soon calm down and quickly mentally calculate approximately how late we would be, taking into account our location and how far away we are from the destination (so how long it would take for alternative transport). I would also text anyone I was meeting to warn them that I would be late and to make their own way inside.

3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
Ehhhhh. What is happening at this party? I don't know these people. There's alcohol though. I don't even like alcohol, just the idea of it. Meh. I'll probably go along reluctantly and sit in a corner and watch people.

After wasting my precious time, that bastard is going to have some drinks?!? I would be seething with rage.

However, I would want to get back home and $50, even $100, is nothing if it means I don't have to wait. Late night parties, with all the noise and bright light, not to mention the shallow, bland music, are not my cup of tea, and I would already mentally synthesising the complaint letter I'd be sending the company the next morning, hehe.

4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?

I don't care that much unless they are supporting things that I absolutely detest, and the politically sensitive nature of those topics means that they tend not to be topics brought up in a public place. Therefore I can't envisage a situation where I'd get that upset. I'd probably either just ignore the nonsense or frown to show I disapproved.

5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?

This question is far too generalised to answer.

6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
The ideas of "peace through war/suffering" and that the strong should rise above and dominate the weak. These I apply on an individual and societal level.

I believe that in order for one to experience inward and outward order and harmony, strife and struggles must be overcome. A great man figures out how to rise above his imperfections and become one of the elite. Society, also, requires order and balance. Instead of passively maintaining a peace (which will eventually lead to war) I suggest waging a patriotic war to cleanse the nation of impurities and bring peace.

7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?

a. Ask them.
b. Be more confident around girls.

8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
They just happen - hunches/gut feelings a part of how I make decisions in my day to day life, and hence are the first response to any given situation. I will have an instinctive "gut feeling" about which path will be more muddy after only very quickly glancing at them, I feel the same way about making decisions about which brand of a product to buy, or which companies to invest in. Often I do act on these feelings to my success, though I do realise that it is an irrational way of making decisions and is only useful in situations where you are required to think quickly (and i excel in these environments).

9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
a The moment where I suddenly figure out the solution to a "problem" i've been working on (this is often musical in my case), which feel awesome, or the experience of travelling and experiencing firsthand places I've only read about.
b Having to listen to people talk about their friends and relatives. The least enjoyable aspect of family reunions (the most is the alcohol).

10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
I try and repress any anxious thoughts I may have around women by dispelling them from my mind through meditation, as well as by practicing conversation skills and my posture. However internally I'm very vulnerable, mainly because I had a traumatic time when I was younger. This is entrenched in my psyche and affects my ability to relate to other people.

 

[Coriolis]

Still having trouble getting my head around this, lol. Can I really be an INFJ if I don't like most people all that much or take a great interest in them? I'm so much more interested in impersonal ideas and concepts than in people and group dynamics.

Yes. I have heard other INFJs describe a similar perspective. Fe is a judging function - a process or method. It makes no assumption about the outcome of that process. I agree that you are much more likely INFJ than INTJ.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I still have some doubts, maybe just from identifying as an INTJ for so long... I feel resistant to the idea of using Fe. I've never liked that function very much, not that I love Fi either. My perception of them is that Fe is a self-righteous martyr and/or overly nicey-nice and conformist to social norms, and Fi is annoyingly self-absorbed and oblivious to other people's feelings. I generally identify more with Fi, but I do not like this tendency in myself... it's very easy to be wrapped up in yourself, most people are. I think it's far more admirable (and far more difficult) to put your own ego and feelings aside and devote your energy to others, but I don't do that (and feel guilty about it). I think a lot about self-improvement and things I want to change about myself, and then I get angry at myself for not being more naturally selfless and giving.

Ha. Yeah, I don't relate much myself to any description I've read of Fe. As someone already said, being enneagram 5 can have this effect. If your enneagram instinct variant is least 'so' as well (as mine is), that could make seem even less people-oriented than other e5s.

I agree with the sentiment expressed thus far by others though, that what you've posted seems far more INFJ than INTJ.

Do you know any INTJs in real life? I usually test as INTJ on tests- even the 'official' mbti test result put me on the cusp between INTJ and INFJ- yet my irl experience of them (as well as interacting with them online) makes it very clear to me that I'm not one of them.

 

[chubber]

Listen to yourself talk, because this is how you figure things out. (I call it a need to "Fe." [ef-ee]) We work through our problems by hearing the extraverted Feeling judgments we make about issues "in the moment." Not talking out our problems may keep us stuck in "Perceiving" mode [Ni or Se], and we can never reach conclusions. Like most Feeling types, INFJs tend to be problem-staters more than problem-solvers. So what works best for us is to fumble around and try to articulate [Ti] the issue. When we hear ourselves [Se] state the problem accurately, that automatically triggers our creative problem-solving [Ni], and a solution often appears almost instantly! The solution may even seem obvious at that point. It's possible to get ourselves unstuck quickly once we allow ourselves to talk matters through.

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[Opal]

The INFJ's dominant function is Ni, so one invariably spends more time with one's imagination than an extraverted type. As I understand it, the difference between Te and Fe is the primary consideration when translating these imaginings and understandings to concrete action; Te looks to satisfy, above all, efficiency and minimization of energy expended to achieve a goal, while Fe looks for a solution that conveniences those affected--Fe takes others' wants and needs into consideration. This is why making an effort to (usually) positively influence another's mood, maybe by filtering output or tailoring it for the recipient, is associated with Fe.

 

[yeghor]

The INFJ's dominant function is Ni, so one invariably spends more time with one's imagination than an extraverted type. As I understand it, the difference between Te and Fe is the primary consideration when translating these imaginings and understandings to concrete action; Te looks to satisfy, above all, efficiency and minimization of energy expended to achieve a goal, while Fe looks for a solution that conveniences those affected--Fe takes others' wants and needs into consideration. This is why making an effort to (usually) positively influence another's mood, maybe by filtering output or tailoring it for the recipient, is associated with Fe.

Te sees people as objects that should be utilized for optimum efficiency of the entire system. I think.