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Forever

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I believe my feelings cannot be understood and managed so easily and even when others come emotional to me, it's rare that I can get really lucky with individuals in saying the right words. I really relate to the notion that I feel deeply without knowing how to express it. I think a lot of my decisions are rational + emotionally based but because I am an introvert first, I feel as if my decisions are always emotionally based, but rather most people I communicate with, I am frustrated when they're not being reasonable to me rather than just speaking soothingly.

Maybe to get out of my Ni Fi loop, I just need to trust I know logic better than my feelings. But I still like music because it's a way of communicating in such an abstract medium that people can appreciate without having to truly understand what's going on.

I input emotion and output logic.

I am not roleplaying, although this hasn't been new.

And I don't have to conform to a scientist stereotype to say I use Te although that is one discipline that honors a Te lifestyle.
 

Forever

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This makes sense, but tbh I thought you were just indulging on your Ti. Double checking, is there any chance for an INTJ to be a 4?

Did I contribute in spreading self doubt on this forum? Nah.

Possibly. I use 4 also as a theory to why I used much more Fi than I did Te at an earlier age, I didn't get to "rationalized thinking" seriously until I was 17 y.o. but Fi has just been getting stronger to the age I am now. I mean I did Chemistry a little bit in college and it was interesting, but I believe science at an educational level is much more Si-Te than Ni-Te, the Ni doesn't really get to kick in until you know all your stuff. The painstaking double check your measurements and interpret data was probably the Si I want to have avoided.

Damn you Quantitative Chemical Analysis. :dont:
 

EJCC

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This makes sense, but tbh I thought you were just indulging on your Ti. Double checking, is there any chance for an INTJ to be a 4?
It can happen, but I'm convinced that [MENTION=19719]Forever[/MENTION] is not an INTJ. Te is clearly not the power behind the throne. I agree with the bolded.
 

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It can happen, but I'm convinced that @Forever is not an INTJ. Te is clearly not the power behind the throne. I agree with the bolded.

But in the Game of Thrones... you either win or you die. :shock:

I feel that TJ's are the most stereotyped out of the types. Maybe I'm an F. My cancer rising is the reason why my mood changes day to day lol. (which is strangely accurate, but it's said to add to my charm)

I guess I just want further proof that I use Fe than Fi or Ti instead of Te. (Te imo is actually hardly used on the forum by anyone here, if I'm wrong I'd love to see some Te filled posts to indulge myself in, what I mean is actively used Te, not the kind of Te usage that changes the way how one speaks)

And I appreciate your forthright honesty. Maybe I have a bit of stereotypes of Fe in my head? But Fe is used pretty stereotypically in this forum too.. and I don't believe my Ti is like amazing, I run off of Ni mostly. :s I talked with a couple of Ti dom types on this forum to know I really don't "use" Ti haha.

When I'm alone my emotions go and fill me about like angels or devils. When I'm out in public, they seem to go on their own agenda, like many people look at me with either smugness/contempt or great respect. I don't hold any awards or anything.. maybe it's just my mystical vibe.

I think it may be odd that I see people in such depth that why I see someone in such "extremes".

I'm not denying I'm a not-INTJ, I just am so betwixt by my own psyche. (double aries, double fire and extroversion while cancer the water with great feeling) I'm no way a traditional extrovert, I avoid parties/dances unless the musician there appeals greatly to my tastes. (weird i want to be a dj lol)
 

Dreamer

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Hey [MENTION=19719]Forever[/MENTION], I know we're all into Typology and generally, just every sort personality sorting system on the face of this earth on this forum. It's fun too! But I would suggest you take a few moments, aka maybe even a week, however long it takes, and remove what you know of personality typing systems, and instead, analyze yourself. Think of your inner motives, what you want out of life, what's important to you. How do you really best process information? Do you take things for face value and see a rather simplicity to understanding what others tell you, or do you have to reconfigure that information in some particular fashion in order for you to understand it? Remember when we spoke on Discord and I told you I have to basically translate what most people tell me when learning something new, in order to "get it", no matter how simple the new concept may be? Do you find yourself having to do this as well? Ask yourself these sorts of questions.

I feel your knowledge of the various personality systems is confusing you and is what many others run into too when they can't seem to determine their type. What you know of them, and how you perceive the systems. Rather than trying to fit yourself into these labels or boxes, or, rather than trying to fit yourself into what you know of the functions, types, etc., try to figure out your inner workings so well, that when you return to the personality systems, then these "labels" will almost literally just fall into place for you. At least, that's what happened for me. I've been interested in learning the various ways people think, process, feel, etc. far before I even know what the MBTI or Enneagram was, and I have been self-reflective on various things for many, many years. Therefore, when I ran into the MBTI, took the test, and was presented with INFP the first time, and ENFP the second, third, and fourth times (all at different points within a year), it made so much more sense to me. There was no wavering on whether I'm a thinker or feeler, Fi or Fe, because the descriptions of the functions aligned with what I already knew of myself.

I think at the core, that is what's happening here, even if it doesn't seem that way. There is a subtly to this dynamic too, and it isn't so black and white, are you trying to fit yourself into this system, or are you applying a system to yourself? The difference I feel though, is if you approach your type with the latter then your typing should feel more natural and true. If the former, I feel you will accept your typing rather than own it. Know what I mean?

In short haha, take a break from what you know of Typology, remove your current leanings towards say, Ni dominance, and approach yourself in an objective, almost scientific way. It'll be fun! Personally I love discovering new things about myself, even the less favorable things about me :)
 

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Hey [MENTION=19719]Forever[/MENTION], I know we're all into Typology and generally, just every sort personality sorting system on the face of this earth on this forum. It's fun too! But I would suggest you take a few moments, aka maybe even a week, however long it takes, and remove what you know of personality typing systems, and instead, analyze yourself. Think of your inner motives, what you want out of life, what's important to you. How do you really best process information? Do you take things for face value and see a rather simplicity to understanding what others tell you, or do you have to reconfigure that information in some particular fashion in order for you to understand it? Remember when we spoke on Discord and I told you I have to basically translate what most people tell me when learning something new, in order to "get it", no matter how simple the new concept may be? Do you find yourself having to do this as well? Ask yourself these sorts of questions.

I feel your knowledge of the various personality systems is confusing you and is what many others run into too when they can't seem to determine their type. What you know of them, and how you perceive the systems. Rather than trying to fit yourself into these labels or boxes, or, rather than trying to fit yourself into what you know of the functions, types, etc., try to figure out your inner workings so well, that when you return to the personality systems, then these "labels" will almost literally just fall into place for you. At least, that's what happened for me. I've been interested in learning the various ways people think, process, feel, etc. far before I even know what the MBTI or Enneagram was, and I have been self-reflective on various things for many, many years. Therefore, when I ran into the MBTI, took the test, and was presented with INFP the first time, and ENFP the second, third, and fourth times (all at different points within a year), it made so much more sense to me. There was no wavering on whether I'm a thinker or feeler, Fi or Fe, because the descriptions of the functions aligned with what I already knew of myself.

I think at the core, that is what's happening here, even if it doesn't seem that way. There is a subtly to this dynamic too, and it isn't so black and white, are you trying to fit yourself into this system, or are you applying a system to yourself? The difference I feel though, is if you approach your type with the latter then your typing should feel more natural and true. If the former, I feel you will accept your typing rather than own it. Know what I mean?

In short haha, take a break from what you know of Typology, remove your current leanings towards say, Ni dominance, and approach yourself in an objective, almost scientific way. It'll be fun! Personally I love discovering new things about myself, even the less favorable things about me :)

Hmm Dreamer, you got a good point there. I'll keep those questions in mind and see how it fares off. I've done something similar in the past, but I'll try again with an even deeper analysis of myself. I'll get back sooner or later on this. :) Thanks.
 

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Im seeking advice on 3w2 vs 2w3 as I seem to have traits of both a lot. Could someone help me out?.
 

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I have traits of both with the wanting to be loved side of 2w3 and the shaping myself to be a admirable person side of 3w2. As for my core heart motives I seek to be loved and be worth something to the world. Whats making it hard for me is that I do have that snobby and superficial side of 3w2 but also the genuinely caring side of 2w3. In fact many people IRL say I am too nice and soft for my own good as I seek to help others and dont like to see others suffering.
 

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I have traits of both with the wanting to be loved side of 2w3 and the shaping myself to be a admirable person side of 3w2. As for my core heart motives I seek to be loved and be worth something to the world. Whats making it hard for me is that I do have that snobby and superficial side of 3w2 but also the genuinely caring side of 2w3. In fact many people IRL say I am too nice and soft for my own good as I seek to help others and dont like to see others suffering.

I feel like that too. Is it possible you can be a 2 wing and a 3 wing in your tri-type with a 2w3/3w2? I am not the expert on Enneagram but I'm making a guess. Or maybe you are another enneagram but exhibit 2w3/3w2? I found a post about their differences on PersonalityCafe. Take a look and see how that reads?

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be loved regardless of your enneagram type, not that you think there is. But I think everyone feels like that way. I know I do, and I feel pretty down when nobody notices things about me. I find I have a big, emotional memory -- not even emotional, just in general. I'm a sponge. And others don't and don't seem to care when I relay them, and then I feel embarrassed that I've brought something up.
 

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I feel like that too. Is it possible you can be a 2 wing and a 3 wing in your tri-type with a 2w3/3w2? I am not the expert on Enneagram but I'm making a guess. Or maybe you are another enneagram but exhibit 2w3/3w2? I found a post about their differences on PersonalityCafe. Take a look and see how that reads?

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be loved regardless of your enneagram type, not that you think there is. But I think everyone feels like that way. I know I do, and I feel pretty down when nobody notices things about me. I find I have a big, emotional memory -- not even emotional, just in general. I'm a sponge. And others don't and don't seem to care when I relay them, and then I feel embarrassed that I've brought something up.

1) 3w2s are primarily oriented toward results and goals and use their charm, interpersonal sway and political skills to advance themselves toward whatever goal they are trying to achieve; 2w3s care primarily about being accepted and admired. they use their pragmatism and ability to get results to win people's affections. (come to think of it, there are many parallels between between Sp/Sx and Sx/Sp)


I care far more about being accepted by others than seeking goals I seem to use pragmatism more to get loved than the other way around).

2) 2w3s display emotion more readily. this includes all emotions, not just the happy/positive/caring ones. 3w2s present a more competent image and hide their feelings far more easily.
For this one I incline more 3w2 as I am not always easy with negative emotions but then again this is probably more to do with my 7 and 9 not wanting to upset myself and others and I am very open with negative emotions if I feel they will be well received as it makes me feel better. I fear driving away people with my negative emotions.

3) 2w3s will go further to win people over than 3w2s. as mentioned earlier, 3s (both 3w2 and 3w4) are focused primarily on goals and would see going far out of their way as a distraction.
Im with 2w3 on this one. I will do anything lolz to win people over and cant imagine putting goals over people.

4) similarly, 2w3s want more attention than 3w2s do. 3w2s enjoy their "attaboys" recognition ceremonies and name drops, but they prefer attention in moderation. after all, people are more and more likely to discover your flaws the more attention you get, and so much becomes high maintenance and gets in the way of performance
I love attention and am not afraid to show my flaws to others provding they will not make me disliked or drive others away. I love showing my flaws to my closer ones as it means they will see me as a person to love more as we all know a show off is not easy to get close to.
 

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1) 3w2s are primarily oriented toward results and goals and use their charm, interpersonal sway and political skills to advance themselves toward whatever goal they are trying to achieve; 2w3s care primarily about being accepted and admired. they use their pragmatism and ability to get results to win people's affections. (come to think of it, there are many parallels between between Sp/Sx and Sx/Sp)


I care far more about being accepted by others than seeking goals I seem to use pragmatism more to get loved than the other way around).

2) 2w3s display emotion more readily. this includes all emotions, not just the happy/positive/caring ones. 3w2s present a more competent image and hide their feelings far more easily.
For this one I incline more 3w2 as I am not always easy with negative emotions but then again this is probably more to do with my 7 and 9 not wanting to upset myself and others and I am very open with negative emotions if I feel they will be well received as it makes me feel better. I fear driving away people with my negative emotions.

3) 2w3s will go further to win people over than 3w2s. as mentioned earlier, 3s (both 3w2 and 3w4) are focused primarily on goals and would see going far out of their way as a distraction.
Im with 2w3 on this one. I will do anything lolz to win people over and cant imagine putting goals over people.

4) similarly, 2w3s want more attention than 3w2s do. 3w2s enjoy their "attaboys" recognition ceremonies and name drops, but they prefer attention in moderation. after all, people are more and more likely to discover your flaws the more attention you get, and so much becomes high maintenance and gets in the way of performance
I love attention and am not afraid to show my flaws to others provding they will not make me disliked or drive others away. I love showing my flaws to my closer ones as it means they will see me as a person to love more as we all know a show off is not easy to get close to.

Hmmm, this makes things kind of difficult. I'm really not an expert on enneagram/typing, but I think you might be 3w2. Even if you feel torn between them, there's only one type, technically, that fits. I don't know. Does 792 sound like you?

792: PEACEMAKER / ENTHUSIAST
15.6‰ of humanity, of whom 75% are feminine and 25% are masculine.

You are very kind and tend to see the best in others. You focus on easy and comfortable ways of relating. Very optimistic and positive, you hate conflict and strife, and use your sense of humor to smooth out differences.

SUGGESTED DRAMATICA ROLES:


  • Effect
  • Pursuit
  • Thought
  • Non-Accurate
  • Support
  • Acceptance
  • Potentiality
  • Desire
 

Lord Lavender

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Hmmm, this makes things kind of difficult. I'm really not an expert on enneagram/typing, but I think you might be 3w2. Even if you feel torn between them, there's only one type, technically, that fits. I don't know. Does 792 sound like you?

792: PEACEMAKER / ENTHUSIAST
15.6‰ of humanity, of whom 75% are feminine and 25% are masculine.

You are very kind and tend to see the best in others. You focus on easy and comfortable ways of relating. Very optimistic and positive, you hate conflict and strife, and use your sense of humor to smooth out differences.

SUGGESTED DRAMATICA ROLES:


  • Effect
  • Pursuit
  • Thought
  • Non-Accurate
  • Support
  • Acceptance
  • Potentiality
  • Desire

That does kinda fit me a lot as I like to be kind to others and try to bring out the best in people even after others have given up on them plus I hate conflict and like to relate to others in a positive way. and I defo use humor to diffuse situations.
 

VILLANELLE

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That does kinda fit me a lot as I like to be kind to others and try to bring out the best in people even after others have given up on them plus I hate conflict and like to relate to others in a positive way. and I defo use humor to diffuse situations.

;) Do you feel it fits, is most important.
 

thepink-cloakedninja

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*raises hand* I have a question! So I have a strong value system, but I update it fairly often if I have a sudden insight, or several new bits of logic/evidence come along that make me realize that my beliefs are inaccurate and I was just wondering if that's more Fe/Si or Fi/Ne. I could see it being a Fe thing because I'd be getting my values from my external world but I have a harder time seeing the Si because if I grew up thinking that one thing was right, wouldn't I cling to it if I was a Si? And then I have a hard time seeing it as a Fi Ne because well, the Ne would be good at seeing the new possibilities of different value systems and examining the evidence for them all, but wouldn't the Fi want to cling to its identity instead of fluidly moving along?
 

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*raises hand* I have a question! So I have a strong value system, but I update it fairly often if I have a sudden insight, or several new bits of logic/evidence come along that make me realize that my beliefs are inaccurate and I was just wondering if that's more Fe/Si or Fi/Ne. I could see it being a Fe thing because I'd be getting my values from my external world but I have a harder time seeing the Si because if I grew up thinking that one thing was right, wouldn't I cling to it if I was a Si? And then I have a hard time seeing it as a Fi Ne because well, the Ne would be good at seeing the new possibilities of different value systems and examining the evidence for them all, but wouldn't the Fi want to cling to its identity instead of fluidly moving along?

Feels more Te/Fi to me than any of the perceiving functions imo. Te should have no problem updating when new info comes along, unless it's involved in some kind of unhealthy loop. Ti/Fe should also take into consideration societal moral values (because of the nature of Ti forming internal system).
 

thepink-cloakedninja

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Feels more Te/Fi to me than any of the perceiving functions imo. Te should have no problem updating when new info comes along, unless it's involved in some kind of unhealthy loop. Ti/Fe should also take into consideration societal moral values (because of the nature of Ti forming internal system).

Okay thank you! That makes sense!
 

Yuurei

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Hmmm, this makes things kind of difficult. I'm really not an expert on enneagram/typing, but I think you might be 3w2. Even if you feel torn between them, there's only one type, technically, that fits. I don't know. Does 792 sound like you?

792: PEACEMAKER / ENTHUSIAST
15.6‰ of humanity, of whom 75% are feminine and 25% are masculine.

You are very kind and tend to see the best in others. You focus on easy and comfortable ways of relating. Very optimistic and positive, you hate conflict and strife, and use your sense of humor to smooth out differences.

SUGGESTED DRAMATICA ROLES:


  • Effect
  • Pursuit
  • Thought
  • Non-Accurate
  • Support
  • Acceptance

  • Potentiality
  • Desire

Not trying to thread-jack but I mevdr learned what my 2nd number is ( just 8w7) does anyone here ( who knows me) suggest one? And is there an in-depth description like this one?
( not tryna fix those typos. Just no I typed ona phone and fuk ifone keypads)
 
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