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[Hawthorne]

Do you think INTP could work for me?

my impression so far is entp > intp

you have an ethical effusiveness that sits between the tantrum-y way of IxTPs and the self-conscious (but more insistent) way of IxFJs.

you also don't have enough of the "authoritative seep" i associate with ExxJs and the way you interact seems more bidirectional (middling Je-Ji) than unidirectional. that last model is a work in progress though.

 

[VILLANELLE]

Would you say this is because you are associating stereotypes to certain types and avoid such because of certain traits?

Yeah, I'd say so. Which makes me a hypocrite.

 

[Merced]

[MENTION=25763]Enthusiastic_Dreamer[/MENTION] and [MENTION=27952]Merced[/MENTION]

Do you think INTP could work for me?. I defently am comfortable and strong with my Ne/Ti functions but I am not sure if am inferior Fe or Si. I do relate to both in many ways (More inferior Si though). I do find ti hard to connect with people if they dont stimulate my Ne (People who do remark on how charming and warm I am plus I was very talkative and Neish as a young child but over time have become more introverted due to finding that people dont seem to engage with me a lot of the time.). I am also at the age where my tert wuld be kicking in and it seems I am delopivng my Fe as a few years ago I had no Fe all all but it is kicking in and fast lol but Si is still out there.

I dont fit the stereotypical image of an charming Robert dowley jr ENTP but nether do I fit the INTP image of a complete hermit but then strotypies is what MBTI is not all about . I has aspects of both myself personally like one day I can talk everyone to death and I often get invited by family and friends to do speeches and stuff but then the next day I just want to sit on the computer all day and do college work, read or interact with others on here as I do get drained if I spend too long on solitary stuff. On vent I get lots of energy from debating theories and stuff as it is so fun .

People were suggesting an xxFJ type for me but while I do have quite a strong Fe it is immature and lacks the solidity and nuance of a xxFJ. I use my Fe in that I do seek external harmony and dislike that group harmony to be broken but it is also used in a casual way and sometimes over the top. I seek Fe not as a a main way of life but to be used so we can return to everyone being happy and having fun.

I confess I come on this site to escape a Si grip I have been having brought on by some personal problems. I am getting better though so dont worry as I am now starting to talk to family and friends not holding it all in. but you can reach out to me if you wish to do so. (You dont have too though).

Speaking of ennergarm it is universally agreed that I have 7w6 in my head and 2w3 in my image but the gut is yet to be decided. I do have both strong 8 and 9 elements because I dont like conflict but I can get aggressive in a 8ish way if I feel that myself or people I am close to are being mistreated. 8w9 and 9w8 are both possible.

Well, just based on interactions, you don't have inferior Fe. I don't see how INTP could even be an option (dude, people here think you're an Fe dom, you ain't an INTP). However, your enneagram is much more interesting to me and I think having a solid grasp on your gut and where it falls would make things more understandable.

Because enneagram is personal and about your fears and goals and how you act on them, someone else guessing your enneagram will always have a level of 'wrong' to it. My guess is that your tritype is 9w8-7w6-2w1 so/sp. e9, e2, and so can be confused for Fe, which may be why people think your dominant function is Fe. I also think you are sx blind and that is because your Fe is tert. You use it to get things done, but at the end of the day, it's not that serious. You aren't that connected. This could possibly be why you are feeling INTP-ish.

Just my guesses and theories though.

 

[Dreamer]

Well, just based on interactions, you don't have inferior Fe. I don't see how INTP could even be an option (dude, people here think you're an Fe dom, you ain't an INTP). However, your enneagram is much more interesting to me and I think having a solid grasp on your gut and where it falls would make things more understandable.

Because enneagram is personal and about your fears and goals and how you act on them, someone else guessing your enneagram will always have a level of 'wrong' to it. My guess is that your tritype is 9w8-7w6-2w1 so/sp. e9, e2, and so can be confused for Fe, which may be why people think your dominant function is Fe. I also think you are sx blind and that is because your Fe is tert. You use it to get things done, but at the end of the day, it's not that serious. You aren't that connected. This could possibly be why you are feeling INTP-ish.

Just my guesses and theories though.

I can see why people may see him as Fe dom, but it's just not fluid in the way I see Fe doms utilizing it. It's much more playful. I agree that enneagram is a good place to get to the bottom of someone's type, and true, that is one area, for sure, the person must do their own analysis. Unless someone wants to expose all for everyone to see?

The So dom, E2, presence of Fe in the stacking, understandably, can come off Fe dom.

 

[cosmic royal]

Hrrm... my guess would've been NFJ. Maaaaybe SFP.

Actually, this reminds me of of [MENTION=22782]Mademoiselle[/MENTION]. Both of you have something visual and image-oriented about your presentations (as far as forum posts go) that I don't associate with TJ types. I'm probably the only one who sees it that way, though. It's likely my associations are the problem.

Enneagram I won't touch except to say 8s seem more forward and less inscrutable.

I haven't read your blog or perused your posts, which I should do before commenting on someone's type. On thinking about it, that sounds stalkery. So I won't do it.

Interestingly enough, I did consider INFJ when I first discovered MBTI, but Fe just didn't fit my cognitive functions at all. Plus I get along better with Fi-Te types as opposed to Fe-Ti people. My arguments seem to be more understandable to the former than latter.

Tell me more about these associations. And actually, I'm in between 5w4 and 8w9 as my core. I'm not entirely sure if I'm integrating to 8 or disintegrating into 5.

And it's all right whether you decide to peruse my posts. It's only natural to want more information. I won't take it as stalking.

 

[Dreamer]

Hmmm, yeah. I mean I type as 794 or whatever on the tritype and really if anyone questions my mbti/enneagram, I get defensive, but I don't mean to (don't take offense) but it makes me do a double take. Even though I'm telling people, hey, you might be that type even if it doesn't sound like it fits/correlates like everything else does or seems to/is "supposed" to. Like, I feel like a bit of a hypocrite. I need to relax about this stuff because it's about self-discovery but I'm a perfectionist and I feel I even have to get that right.

No worries, I was more surprised over anything. But no offense taken Just remember that for all the info given to you, it is YOU that ultimately will make the typing judgment call, and if people have a problem with that, who cares? They need to get a life! Just be true to yourself, and remove as best you can, any biases you may have over any particular functions, types, enneagram, etc. and you should be good. Just take your time, no rush.

 

[VILLANELLE]

No worries, I was more surprised over anything. But no offense taken Just remember that for all the info given to you, it is YOU that ultimately will make the typing judgment call, and if people have a problem with that, who cares? They need to get a life! Just be true to yourself, and remove as best you can, any biases you may have over any particular functions, types, enneagram, etc. and you should be good. Just take your time, no rush.

I shouldn't have biases towards types but I do and that's based on my misunderstandings/stereotypes/how types are percieved. But I'm at least confident I'm an ENFJ. I'm learning to be confident with it, anyways.

 

[Dreamer]

I shouldn't have biases towards types but I do and that's based on my misunderstandings/stereotypes/how types are percieved. But I'm at least confident I'm an ENFJ. I'm learning to be confident with it, anyways.

Happy to hear it! Ya, own it

 

[Merced]

Y'know, this thread got me thinking.
[MENTION=20044]chubber[/MENTION] suggested I was an ESTP and I dunno. Still seems off. I don't see the dom Se at all. My enneagram is pretty solid. I think whatever error is in my typings, it's not enneagram. But I am starting to think something is wrong. Maybe my instinctual variant? Or like, my Socionics type? I know I am on the Fi-Te axis, but more and more I have a hard time confirming if my Te is higher than my Fi. But that wouldn't make sense given how MBTI works...

 

[julesiscools]

Someone said they could see me as an Fe user, and I'm curious to see if anyone else agrees. Discuss?

 

[VILLANELLE]

Someone said they could see me as an Fe user, and I'm curious to see if anyone else agrees. Discuss?

You could be. I'm not an expert in typing at all but what makes you think that?

 

[julesiscools]

You could be. I'm not an expert in typing at all but what makes you think that?

It's not so much that I thought/think it. I was just curious if others viewed me that way. Though I have considered off and on if I use Fe as opposed to Fi, but that's only based on the stereotypes that Fe is considerate and Fi is selfish.

I just think it's interesting to see how others view you in comparison to how you view yourself.

 

[VILLANELLE]

It's not so much that I thought/think it. I was just curious if others viewed me that way. Though I have considered off and on if I use Fe as opposed to Fi, but that's only based on the stereotypes that Fe is considerate and Fi is selfish.

I just think it's interesting to see how others view you in comparison to how you view yourself.

Oh, completely. How others view you sometimes makes you think twice about yourself.

 

[julesiscools]

Oh, completely. How others view you sometimes makes you think twice about yourself.

A little bit, yeah. But I think a lot of how others view you depends on your comfort level with them. No one person is necessarily going to view you the same way. Which I find intriguing.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

A little bit, yeah. But I think a lot of how others view you depends on your comfort level with them. No one person is necessarily going to view you the same way. Which I find intriguing.

I know this was directed at someone else, but it is something I find very interesting as well. People also view you based on their own assumptions and sometimes that can be as simple as when you look like someone else they used to know. I've had people assume many different opposites about me. It does make for an interesting aspect of people - just how subjectively we view each other.

 

[julesiscools]

I know this was directed at someone else, but it is something I find very interesting as well. People also view you based on their own assumptions and sometimes that can be as simple as when you look like someone else they used to know. I've had people assume many different opposites about me. It does make for an interesting aspect of people - just how subjectively we view each other.

It's cool! I certainly don't mind continuing the discussion with someone else. It's also interesting how much your appearance goes into another person's view of you. I've had a lot of people tell me after getting to know me that I'm not what they expected at all; the general consensus has been prissy, or snobby. I've had one person who didn't think that upon first meeting me, and she generally just says that I had a good "vibe" about me when we met.

I've also had a lot of people surprised by my tastes in music, literature and movies because my appearance apparently doesn't fit them.

(Why do I feel like I got off topic? )

 

[magpie]

[MENTION=25763]Enthusiastic_Dreamer[/MENTION] suggested I could be 2w3 enneagram... what does that make my tritype? (@Rouskyrie, are you around?)

I agree with 2 for you, based off the limited time you've been on the forum and my perception of you.

 

[Starry]

 

[VILLANELLE]

I agree with 2 for you, based off the limited time you've been on the forum and my perception of you.

Really? Hmmmm.

 

[Forever]

Don't think... Just let it flow.