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    ιяяєѕιѕтιвlє Ꮆяαѕρ Luminous's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer Ed Powell View Post
    5 integrates to 8 though.
    So? 9 integrates to 3, a type which is far more assertive than 9. Integration doesn't mean one becomes that other type. Looking at it that way is going to make the whole thing more confusing than it needs to be, I think.

    I live with someone who is likely 594. I wish he were more assertive. Has he ever been? Of course! Particularly at his work where it was a technical/knowledge-related issue. And it came out in an angry assertive way. But being triple withdrawn (I think, his heart number could possibly be something else), he largely is passive and not assertive.
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    I'll add that a tipoff he's 5 and not 9 core is that he's guarded and not mergy, like me. I want little more than to merge with my lover, which is what 9sx is at core level. Merging with a lover or nature or an activity. And they're going to be a safe warm empathetic place for that lover to fall. Not a closely guarded tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer Ed Powell View Post
    Plus you're a J, which adds a layer of assertiveness and directness that might not be as obvious in a perceiving 5.
    True, but each typing system should be internally consistent, and able to account for a person without recourse to other typing systems. In other words, whatever is explained by the J in my type should also relate back to some aspect of my enneagram type/fixes/etc. I wouldn't be quick to assign type based on how assertive someone is without knowing what is behind it, as that comes too close to typing based on behavior, which is often unreliable.
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