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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Lazarus View Post
    I feel like neither one of you is e9. You lucky lucky lucky luck boys.

    Thank God none of this is real or maybe you wouldn't be allowed into Buddhist temples anymore or something.
    How dare you!

    I'm so e9 I let people borrow money knowing they'll never pay it back, and spend years quietly resenting them for it while outwardly giving the impression that everything is all good...
    The order of preference for your cognitive functions appears to be
    Ne > Ti > Te = Ni > Fi > Fe = Se > Si
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    I let people borrow money knowing they'll never pay it back, and spend years quietly resenting them for it while outwardly giving the impression that everything is all good...
    I’d be more amused by this if it didn’t so accurately describe how I am when I lend people money and things. Why do they never repay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1487610420 View Post
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    It's interesting, but the optimism of e9 being more (in one part) about a refusal to give up can be seen really clearly in the way we are constantly shifting. These shifts come from an awareness of the melody reality is playing and a desire to harmonize with it in order to attempt to re-enter holy love. Empathy with this melody of reality and humanity is why a 9 never truly gives up, when a 9 is attempting to create narratives it's kind of the way Umberto Eco's conception of infinite interpretation works if I'm recalling that correctly. We don't have membranes to our conception of reality because we're constantly reinterpreting it and thus, ourselves which similarly lack these membranes. In our psychology, there's no end and so, no reason to give up. If this is not it, then another way of approaching or looking at things can be. Another interpretation.

    I think I've finally figured it out and I can feel it but mapping it to words isn't working out that well. Oh well. I needed to put this down somewhere and I was here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer Ed Powell View Post
    I’d be more amused by this if it didn’t so accurately describe how I am when I lend people money and things. Why do they never repay?
    I, strangely enough, don't identify with this at all. I don't usually give people things I expect to have returned in any way.

    But I don't have too much trouble addressing that sort of thing, because I can often tell I'm not just being extra in doing so. I feel like it's important enough to put in the discomfort and effort or else lines are being crossed, which is way less comfortable for me than addressing things. Sometimes I just can't be bothered though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Lazarus View Post
    I, strangely enough, don't identify with this at all. I don't usually give people things I expect to have returned in any way.

    But I don't have too much trouble addressing that sort of thing, because I can often tell I'm not just being extra in doing so. I feel like it's important enough to put in the discomfort and effort or else lines are being crossed, which is way less comfortable for me than addressing things. Sometimes I just can't be bothered though.
    I had to stop lending money. Only a very select few people now, who I know will actually repay.

    Now, if I give someone money, that’s different. I don’t expect them to find a way to make up for it if I already established it’s a gift. I can’t stand it when someone “gives” me something and stresses no need to repay only to later try to hold it over my head in an attempt to guilt me into doing something or giving them something.
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    I'm certain that if I posted a video of myself, there would be no question that I am someone with strong Fe. To the extent that the fact that I could consider ESFJ a possibility wouldn't seem strange at all. I'm extremely expressive but I think most people have solidified their heuristic of me based off when I was nearly catatonic in my depression, which is a terrible benchmark to take but ok. In reality, you can even see some of how expressive I am in the fact that I mirror even in my online interactions and tend to have no capacity for monosyllabic forms of expression. On the daily, I often find people who aren't very expressive and are essentially what could be referred to as Fi, to be confusing in a sense.

    I understand that people have often clung to the erroneous idea that I want to be a type (ISFJ) when the fact of the matter is, that couldn't be further from the truth. I am so beyond that and have been for years, I am not one of those people who needs type because they are not able to stand on their own. I think they are weak in a way I cannot manage to be as a grown woman and I detest being counted among those people to be honest. I would never have managed to grow past the teenage girl who once needed type if I wanted to be a type past my teens. Nor would I be someone who sees constricting limitations of type as suffocating, someone who sees it all as ultimately worthless if I were someone who wanted to be a type. I wouldn't be who I am today if I could settle for just being a type, I wouldn't have gotten there if I could do that past my teens.

    The latter common accusation being the most important part of all of this, obviously. The former issue only serving to lead into it. It does not matter at all what people would like to think I am, it is all not real. And so it is equally easy not to care that xSFJ is the pariah. It doesn't need to be framed through the lens of "e4 hipster", it doesn't need to be shoehorned into such things when I am something greater than any of this inherently, a person. Which is what must be considered in order to find the truth, for the person I am is a component of reality in the way what type I "am" is not.
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    I'm pretty certain I'm an ESTP. Unless someone disagrees with me!

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    Sometimes I wonder if I have enough tact to be typed an --FJ.
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    From today onwards, I will be ENFP 721 so/sp, 100%, no going back, haw-yee

    EDIT: nevermind this is too much energy for me
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