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    I'm still not sure about my subtype, but since I've looked into socionics Se I'm sure of my typing as ESI. I don't fully relate, or relate terribly a lot even, to the ISFP descriptions or the MBTI Se function. Se in MBTI is basically, "if it looks like a rock and tastes like a rock, it is a rock." Socionics Se is about influence and impact, and it explains how Se users are concerned with possibilities, which is what I've been trying to assert for ages.

    Unlike Si, which is about one's subjective sensory experience (how intense or enjoyable it is), Se is about achieving an object of desire. It gives one the ability to influence, bend, and push situations and people in order to achieve such an object, rather than to enjoy the situation one is in.
    Not that I think anyone cares, but I'm just writing this to say I find socionics more accurate and useful than MBTI, and type as ESI. I don't type as ISFP anymore because it's not applicable. Based on MBTI type descriptions only and not MBTI cognitive functions, I relate most to INFJ.

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    INFJs indeed share a unique combination of traits: though soft-spoken, they have very strong opinions and will fight tirelessly for an idea they believe in. They are decisive and strong-willed, but will rarely use that energy for personal gain – INFJs will act with creativity, imagination, conviction and sensitivity not to create advantage, but to create balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie View Post
    I'm still not sure about my subtype, but since I've looked into socionics Se I'm sure of my typing as ESI. I don't fully relate, or relate terribly a lot even, to the ISFP descriptions or the MBTI Se function. Se in MBTI is basically, "if it looks like a rock and tastes like a rock, it is a rock." Socionics Se is about influence and impact, and it explains how Se users are concerned with possibilities, which is what I've been trying to assert for ages.



    Not that I think anyone cares, but I'm just writing this to say I find socionics more accurate and useful than MBTI, and type as ESI. I don't type as ISFP anymore because it's not applicable. Based on MBTI type descriptions only and not MBTI cognitive functions, I relate most to INFJ.
    FWIW, I never thought you fit in the MBTI or JCF ISFP..... I don't do enough socionics to say any comment on that typing.
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    Okay guys, it's been a long time since I replied here, huh?
    I've been thinking about my type a lot more recently, and have been researching the functions and even Socionics. In Socionics, I am commonly typed, as and have been verified as an EIE-ENFj (Fe subtype, most likely). I've asked a few questions to various people about your MBTI type having to match your Socionics type perfectly. Does it really have to? Are both systems really equal in regards to how each function is used?
    Is it odd to be ESFP in MBTI and ENFj in Socionics?
    Can someone help me out here, please? xD

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    @Merced thinks i'm sx/so and i need more opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato Nadeshiko View Post
    @Merced thinks i'm sx/so and i need more opinions.
    No, I really dont think you are sx first. Personally, I think you are sx last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo2 View Post
    No, I really dont think you are sx first. Personally, I think you are sx last.
    Sx first doesn't seem quite right for me unless someone convinces me, but I don't believe I'm sx last. Sx is a desire for personal bond and connection which is very important to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato Nadeshiko View Post
    Sx first doesn't seem quite right for me unless someone convinces me, but I don't believe I'm sx last. Sx is a desire for personal bond and connection which is very important to me.
    I could say the same about myself, but I've considered myself sx last for a while. So either I'm mistyped, or this isn't a great way to determine sx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    I could say the same about myself, but I've considered myself sx last for a while. So either I'm mistyped, or this isn't a great way to determine sx.
    Well, I'm also pretty confident with sp last. How would you describe sx?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato Nadeshiko View Post
    Well, I'm also pretty confident with sp last. How would you describe sx?
    To be clear, my comment wasn't questioning your own typing (I don't know you), I was just saying I related to what you wrote, so I didn't think it alone was a good deciding factor in determining whether one has sx as primary or secondary.

    Re describing sx, ha, I don't know. My super-generalization is that it seems to have more to do with intensity and perhaps 'obsession', maybe a single-minded drive to dive into one person or thing (as it doesn't have to be a person), than desire to connect; desire to connect and find common ground, bond and be accepted, understood, known by people, is just as much a part of the social instinct, I think. I just believe via interacting with people on here, as well as people irl who I am confident to be sx dom, that I differ. And, since I am pretty sure I'm not sp-last (I think I have a very good sp instinct), then sx is last for me. Also, in delving into specific descriptions for enneagram 4 specifically, so/sp just really seemed to fit.
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    My final typing is INTJ.
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