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    Quote Originally Posted by apathylex View Post
    Just pointing out a quick thing, it's late and I'll better think about this tomorrow: any function can make you learn faster or quicker depending on what you are studying, how, and a million other factors.

    As a Ti/Fe user (well, maybe I'm not, but whatever), I can say that I'm really quick at learning and improvising mathematical demonstrations (I can analyze and internally store information as quick as I get it, it's immediate) while, for example, I need days in order to learn a few history paragraphs (my Ti becomes useless and my factual memory is not that great), and days in order to deeply analyze philosophy. On the other hand I've known some INFPs who are great and much quicker at doing it despite their functions.

    Also keep in mind that Fe's an extraverted judging function, so you could actually be confusing some aspects with Te's.
    Embrace the Ne. I know you wanna . If you have Ne you can like learn how Pokemon types and MBTI relate to one another or what Europe would look like if it were shifted 1000 miles south. Plus you get to invent the enlarging ray which means you can shrink yourself down to ant size and climb that dirt mound which would be Everest to you. Plus with Ti you can troll with dystonian things such as organizing people into different Pokemon types and subjecting them to unpleasant fates based on that (For your Waters you get like African water, for steel you get turned to steel and for physic you get loud voices in your head).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiastic_Dreamer View Post
    Oh goodness @Forever! Do you have inferior Ne? :P All those possibilities, and none of them favorable towards you.

    I don't know how I'd live if I always thought such things. Though, I'm sure there are times thinking of such outcomes could've prevented some clashes with people in the past. But I just shrug it off and move on.
    My therapist said that when I told her different perspectives of just one instance and she thought something was wrong with my brain lol.

    Me an ISFJ? :p I'd be an incredibly different SJ due to strong disagreements I have had in the past with Si types. They see so differently than me. It's like they're content in the situation where everything is the same even if it's shitty. It makes no sense to me. (I perceive it to be terrible but to them, consistency > possibilities)

    I was someone who'd always switch up everything when I teach something even to my own detriment. If anything I'm much more likely to be Ne than Si. I also make tons of mistakes due to lack of preparedness. Si types tend to be defensive pessimistic and I'm like the opposite when I tackle a new situation overly optimistic coming out badly burned.

    I'm really negative with the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain in a Jar View Post
    Embrace the Ne. I know you wanna . If you have Ne you can like learn how Pokemon types and MBTI relate to one another or what Europe would look like if it were shifted 1000 miles south. Plus you get to invent the enlarging ray which means you can shrink yourself down to ant size and climb that dirt mound which would be Everest to you. Plus with Ti you can troll with dystonian things such as organizing people into different Pokemon types and subjecting them to unpleasant fates based on that (For your Waters you get like African water, for steel you get turned to steel and for physic you get loud voices in your head).
    I actually did the first two. Regarding the first one, I stopped as I thought that it wasn't making sense and I was thinking by useless stereotypes. But I definitely imagined and read something about the Europe-shifted-many-kilometres-south thing or something like that, I just can't remember when.
    Dante would be so proud of how you applied the retaliation law, by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    My therapist said that when I told her different perspectives of just one instance and she thought something was wrong with my brain lol.

    Me an ISFJ? :p I'd be an incredibly different SJ due to strong disagreements I have had in the past with Si types. They see so differently than me. It's like they're content in the situation where everything is the same even if it's shitty. It makes no sense to me. (I perceive it to be terrible but to them, consistency > possibilities)

    I was someone who'd always switch up everything when I teach something even to my own detriment. If anything I'm much more likely to be Ne than Si. I also make tons of mistakes due to lack of preparedness. Si types tend to be defensive pessimistic and I'm like the opposite when I tackle a new situation overly optimistic coming out badly burned.

    I'm really negative with the past.
    Si doesnt mean that you are stuck in the past. It is a subjective sensory function that takes in information from the past. The fact that you have negative experiences with the past may suggest tert/inferior Si though. Would you say your relationship with Si is more complete negative or is it something you deny yet find yourself indulging in when stressed. (For me i engage in inferior Si by watching childhood cartoons for the nostgla for instance depsite the fact most of the time i deny Si).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    Well I don't know, but re your scenario, it could have been any of those things. Or - I can say Fi users aren't 'consistent' in outward feelings/behaviors, so maybe she's an Fi user and the fact she's usually kind and wasn't last night could very well just be her mood last night.
    But surely Fe users can deal with Fi users right? I mean Fe just can't only work with Fe users.. it kind of wouldn't make sense.

    True, anyhow I don't think it was terribly life-changing what she felt towards me or somebody else. It was closing time and she's just probably tired and I just may have to have the guts and the quickness to ask at that moment (hard for Pi introverts) what she is feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apathylex View Post
    I actually did the first two. Regarding the first one, I stopped as I thought that it wasn't making sense and I was thinking by useless stereotypes. But I definitely imagined and read something about the Europe-shifted-many-kilometres-south thing or something like that, I just can't remember when.
    Dante would be so proud of how you applied the retaliation law, by the way.
    Hey i had a conversation about how the Seven Deadly sins would manifest at a house party. Pride is that guy who wears suits and goes around boasting, Gluttony is that guy first at the table and last to leave it, sloth the guy who couldn't be bothered to hand out the invitations, wrath the guy who gets angry and starts fighting, Greed the one who takes money when no one is looking, lust the pervert who feels up women and envy the one stood in the corner wishing he had everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    My therapist said that when I told her different perspectives of just one instance and she thought something was wrong with my brain lol.

    Me an ISFJ? :p I'd be an incredibly different SJ due to strong disagreements I have had in the past with Si types. They see so differently than me. It's like they're content in the situation where everything is the same even if it's shitty. It makes no sense to me. (I perceive it to be terrible but to them, consistency > possibilities)

    I was someone who'd always switch up everything when I teach something even to my own detriment. If anything I'm much more likely to be Ne than Si. I also make tons of mistakes due to lack of preparedness. Si types tend to be defensive pessimistic and I'm like the opposite when I tackle a new situation overly optimistic coming out badly burned.

    I'm really negative with the past.
    You ever looked into Socionics? The farce of MBTI Si is one of the most loathsome ideas I have ever come across. My girlfriend is an xSFJ and she's one of the most impulsive people you'll meet. She's... wild.

    And if Si is bad enough, inferior Ne somehow seems to correlate with anxiety in any way possible. No, we're all anxious about something. It's ridiculous.
    I am exploiting others as guinea pigs to further my understanding of typology.

    I'm a Ti-Ne. My MBTI is listed as ENTJ because from dichotomies alone, that's my best fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain in a Jar View Post
    Si doesnt mean that you are stuck in the past. It is a subjective sensory function that takes in information from the past. The fact that you have negative experiences with the past may suggest tert/inferior Si though. Would you say your relationship with Si is more complete negative or is it something you deny yet find yourself indulging in when stressed. (For me i engage in inferior Si by watching childhood cartoons for the nostgla for instance depsite the fact most of the time i deny Si).
    It could, but it could also mean devil 8th Si as well where only going back to that function pretty much hurts me and is never useful except in extremely rare situations.

    I mean having Ne as first or second would mean I would be springing with possibilities both positive AND negative and all believing them to be true right? Intuition in the external world especially. Ne can have strong enthusiasm for a lot more subjects than Ni. I've been pretty narrow in my field of interests.

    Interesting you say it's something I indulge when I am stressed. I sometimes do miss things that I have from the past as a child and wish I could see the toys I've had for nostalgic effect or desire to see my old preschool/daycare but I don't make it a #1 priority in my life. I once in a while go to older music I've listened to when I am young but the nostalgia really lasts short. Or if I buy a pokemon game, it's like somehow it was never the same experience when I was a child. I've also considered being an ENFP but not really an ENTP. I dislike thrift stores. Although I appreciate when someone has been creative enough with old things but it doesn't dazzle me like modern fashion does.

    The type of fashion I like is subtle and regal. (if I had money of course lol) I tend to buy things of higher quality and end up having less than more items. I've sometimes spent my whole savings on fancy clothes and I'd feel so out of place when all I am is but a student. I'm a terrible spender. I think Ne types enjoy art in a much different way than I do. I love the feeling of newness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain in a Jar View Post
    Te really makes me want to rebel for some reason as it tramples on my Ti sense of logic. (I am like YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO AND THINK I HAVE MY OWN MIND SCREW YOU TE) plus it tramples on my Fe as well. I like to think of Ti/Fe types (Both TPs and FJs) as being like the friendly nurse (She is acting all friendly) but with that nasty looking syringe as being Ti (I am cold, sociopathc and uncaring on the inside). I can act all warm and happy on the outside while being empty and cold on the inside. Like a baked Alaska i can be hot on the outside but on the inside there is no warmth at all.
    I can somewhat relate to this.

    My husband jokes that my super-power is to have anyone love me but only for five minutes "before the disdain starts to show

    I am naturally friendly, I can easily turn on the charm when I need to.
    A great example are the employees at coffee shops and restaurants I frequent. I can strike up a conversation with a new employee that will make others think we've been friends for years. I even make a game of seeing how long it takes for them to put down what they're doing and greet me. (Usually less than a week)
    My husbands tells me that when he goes to these places without me they do recognize him, but only as " That guy who shows up with Nichole." and always asks " You want her usual right? Oh...did you want something too?" and with a sigh he just tells them to "Make two of hers."

    Those people probably think that I have a million friends- they would be wrong. Truth is I have a hard time getting along with most people and am aware that if I really knew them, I'd probably want nothing to do with them and more often than not, really don't give a shit what they have to say as I find most people to be boring, entitled,and extremely petty. Yeah, I am an E. I love being around people that I like, people who are engaging and make me feel alive.
    That is not most people. I do not like most people. I cannot even relate to them. Even the friends that I do have, I cannot be around for long. Unless we are sharing in a pre-planned activity which requires a lot of attention.
    They do not know how to be engaging or even interesting. Their idea of "conversation" is just spewing the same 3 memes of the month every 5 seconds ( saw them for Thanksgiving. I had never before heard the phrase " Dwarf intensifies" but within those three hours I had heard it so many times that if I ever hear it again I'm going to murder them with an Ice pick.
    And, that sort of thing is very common here in Nerdopolis. TBH, nothing makes me feel so nihilistic as having to stand there and listen to that shit.

    Sometimes it gets me a little down, but then I visit my husbands family; they are very rich, ambitious, friendly, successful people and they love me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    It could, but it could also mean devil 8th Si as well where only going back to that function pretty much hurts me and is never useful except in extremely rare situations.

    I mean having Ne as first or second would mean I would be springing with possibilities both positive AND negative and all believing them to be true right? Intuition in the external world especially. Ne can have strong enthusiasm for a lot more subjects than Ni. I've been pretty narrow in my field of interests.

    Interesting you say it's something I indulge when I am stressed. I sometimes do miss things that I have from the past as a child and wish I could see the toys I've had for nostalgic effect or desire to see my old preschool/daycare but I don't make it a #1 priority in my life. I once in a while go to older music I've listened to when I am young but the nostalgia really lasts short. Or if I buy a pokemon game, it's like somehow it was never the same experience when I was a child. I've also considered being an ENFP but not really an ENTP. I dislike thrift stores. Although I appreciate when someone has been creative enough with old things but it doesn't dazzle me like modern fashion does.

    The type of fashion I like is subtle and regal. (if I had money of course lol) I tend to buy things of higher quality and end up having less than more items. I've sometimes spent my whole savings on fancy clothes and I'd feel so out of place when all I am is but a student. I'm a terrible spender. I think Ne types enjoy art in a much different way than I do. I love the feeling of newness.
    It seems that you have Se not Si in your stack. You have that love of luxury i associate with Se types. It is strange that you have nostagla though but it seems to be more a human thing. The fact you have narrow interests means we can probably rule out Ne dom as personally i hate being forced to specialise but instead broadening outwards.

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