Lord Lavender
Bluered Trickster
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- so/sp
How do I tell if im So/Sp, Sp/So or So/Sx?.
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Seven Stacks | The Enneagram ...info from the underground.How do I tell if im So/Sp, Sp/So or So/Sx?.
How do I tell if im So/Sp, Sp/So or So/Sx?.
How do I tell if im So/Sp, Sp/So or So/Sx?.
Be whichever one you want and stop being it when you don't want to anymore.
Do you follow a more costume model in which types are merely costumes we can all try on and fit as we want or do you see more of a chameleon model in which we are the same form all the way but it is colored differently. In the first model I could suddenly naturally become a ISTJ 461 Sp/Sx and you a ENTJ 873 Sx/So (Just trying to use what I think our polar opposite types would be ) but in the second model we would be our types all the way but colored differently. Just curious on your ideas on type theory .
INTJ
4w5
you are still the same person no matter the label that's being applied to you at the time and whether it's "accurate" or "inaccurate" in anyone's perception including your own, so typing whichever way you feel suits you best at the time or somehow helps you to grow is imo the best way to typology. so if typing as an so/sp benefits you in some way today but doesn't benefit you tomorrow, you can change it and technically you were never 'wrong' or 'mistyped' because you're still the same person and the label is merely an empty shell open to individual and subjective interpretation. be an so/sx tody and an sp/so tomorrow if you wanna. i mean you're always the same you but your type is just kinda like the clothes you put on
How do I tell if im So/Sp, Sp/So or So/Sx?.
I think I might be a 469 with ambiguous gut wings. I relate to the descriptions of 461, 468, and 469, so it just makes sense as this type is really out of touch with their gut. This tritype also needs a lot of outside reassurance/affirmation, even the core 4s.
Now, to decide if I am syn flow or contra flow. How the fuck would I know? I mean, I know I am drawn to contra types more than syn, the underdogs and rebels.
I have definitely always had an "I don't give a fuck" attitude. I feel like I move against the current of expectations, but I also feel like I am drawn toward people in a sense. I always, always test Sx/Sp, but most here see me as Sx/So, I think because of my social grace or humor or brashness or something, but I think I may have more of a push-pull dynamic than Sx/So has.
I'd appreciate others' opinion of my instinctual flow, especially those who know me from Discord.
How do I tell if im So/Sp, Sp/So or So/Sx?.
*Check these out-
Sp/So *
This type is generally private and reserved, and especially serious and practical minded in their focus to gain material security and in making useful connections that support their goals. When they do form a connection, loyalty is very important to them and they will not hesitate to end a relationship on grounds of disloyalty. This type may lack a certain degree of interpersonal warmth which can give the impression of coldness or disinterest in others, even a sense of selfishness. May be drawn to groups that attract like minded individuals, as in business clubs or volunteer organizations where a shared professional culture can facilitate social bonds. They tend to live conservatively and dress in an inconspicuously appropriate fashion befitting their status in life. May have a characteristically blunt and direct style of communication that can take others some getting used to. They are particularly strong in matters of commitment and sacrifice, and enjoy being the benefactors in assisting society's practical needs.
Motivation: to attain a position of material and societal security.
Familiar Roles: the businessperson, the responsible citizen, the pillar of society.
Examples: Bill Gates, Donald Trump (these are old descriptions too!), Martha Stewart, Harrison Ford
Some author's notes-
soc/sp: Tangential. Lots of details and analysis. Very in-their-head and intellectual, and lacks sensuality. Comes across as level-headed and unspontaneous, but also with personal warmth. Their written works often require a great deal of mental concentration from the readers.
So/Sp*
This type is often the most comfortable in group settings, but tends to be a bit formal and awkward in one to one relations. This is the natural political type, affiliating themselves with groups or theories which best defend their social and material interests. They may lack warmth and individual identity and this could lead to problems in forming meaningful relationships outside of a shared social interest. The motivation for this type is to attain status within their chosen sphere - the "social climber."
Examples of soc/sp: Hillary Clinton, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ted Nugent
(Seems incomplete huh?)
Some author's notes-
sp/soc: The most straightfoward in language, with relatively little trills and embellishments. Points made directly and from personal experience. Business-like. Clear. Cynical. Lacking in internal experience compared to other stackings.
So/Sx-
This type has very strong one to one social skills, but is usually uncomfortable in group settings. They enjoy cultivating multiple relationships, and can be intensely involved when in the presence of someone they are interested in, but have difficulty sustaining these bonds when apart. This may give the impression of being flighty and rootless, willing to adapt and mirror others in order to connect, but lacking a defined approach that would give their relationships a more solid standing. They may have political interests, but are generally more pragmatic and less partisan than the other social variant. They are often attuned to pop culture and the latest trends. This type's motivation is to create lasting connections with those they are interested in - the "best friend."
Examples of soc/sx: Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, Howard Stern, Margaret Cho, Jack McFarland from "Will & Grace"
Some author's notes-
soc/sx: The word "fantastical" comes to mind. Lots of virtuosity and trills, and often removed from the real world. One is whirled away by the dazzling fairies of their colorful imagination. Can be too rich in imagery for their own good. Sustained dramatic power due to their knowledge of interpersonal dynamics.
Source-
http://typewatchenneagram.blogspot.com/2011/06/typewatch-enneagram-instincts.html
Check these out-
So/Sp-
This type is generally private and reserved, and especially serious and practical minded in their focus to gain material security and in making useful connections that support their goals. When they do form a connection, loyalty is very important to them and they will not hesitate to end a relationship on grounds of disloyalty. This type may lack a certain degree of interpersonal warmth which can give the impression of coldness or disinterest in others, even a sense of selfishness. May be drawn to groups that attract like minded individuals, as in business clubs or volunteer organizations where a shared professional culture can facilitate social bonds. They tend to live conservatively and dress in an inconspicuously appropriate fashion befitting their status in life. May have a characteristically blunt and direct style of communication that can take others some getting used to. They are particularly strong in matters of commitment and sacrifice, and enjoy being the benefactors in assisting society's practical needs.
Motivation: to attain a position of material and societal security.
Familiar Roles: the businessperson, the responsible citizen, the pillar of society.
Examples: Bill Gates, Donald Trump (these are old descriptions too!), Martha Stewart, Harrison Ford
Some author's notes-
soc/sp: Tangential. Lots of details and analysis. Very in-their-head and intellectual, and lacks sensuality. Comes across as level-headed and unspontaneous, but also with personal warmth. Their written works often require a great deal of mental concentration from the readers.
Sp/So-
This type is often the most comfortable in group settings, but tends to be a bit formal and awkward in one to one relations. This is the natural political type, affiliating themselves with groups or theories which best defend their social and material interests. They may lack warmth and individual identity and this could lead to problems in forming meaningful relationships outside of a shared social interest. The motivation for this type is to attain status within their chosen sphere - the "social climber."
Examples of soc/sp: Hillary Clinton, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ted Nugent
(Seems incomplete huh?)
Some author's notes-
sp/soc: The most straightfoward in language, with relatively little trills and embellishments. Points made directly and from personal experience. Business-like. Clear. Cynical. Lacking in internal experience compared to other stackings.
So/Sx-
This type has very strong one to one social skills, but is usually uncomfortable in group settings. They enjoy cultivating multiple relationships, and can be intensely involved when in the presence of someone they are interested in, but have difficulty sustaining these bonds when apart. This may give the impression of being flighty and rootless, willing to adapt and mirror others in order to connect, but lacking a defined approach that would give their relationships a more solid standing. They may have political interests, but are generally more pragmatic and less partisan than the other social variant. They are often attuned to pop culture and the latest trends. This type's motivation is to create lasting connections with those they are interested in - the "best friend."
Examples of soc/sx: Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, Howard Stern, Margaret Cho, Jack McFarland from "Will & Grace"
Some author's notes-
soc/sx: The word "fantastical" comes to mind. Lots of virtuosity and trills, and often removed from the real world. One is whirled away by the dazzling fairies of their colorful imagination. Can be too rich in imagery for their own good. Sustained dramatic power due to their knowledge of interpersonal dynamics.
Source-
http://typewatchenneagram.blogspot.com/2011/06/typewatch-enneagram-instincts.html
I just saw this (I know this is from long ago but I missed this in my nofs ) and so far So/Sp seems the best fit but So/Sx and Sp/So could also fit. I am far mre Sx than a lot of Sx lasts as I am not as impersonal and distant as Sx lasts are made out to be but then I dont think I really have much Sx intensity or energy in my character.