Bloody IxTPs

[Ezra]

Always thinking about their type.

 

[mippus]

You must be an INTP

 

[Ezra]

Naah, I've settled on ENTJ. That reminds me; I need to put it in my userbar.

 

["?"]

Always thinking about their type.

....But, doesn't Myers-Briggs say that all introverts are egocentric in this way? Not necessarily in a selfish manner however first and foremost, introverts want to understand the self and then how they relate to others whereas extraverts want to understand how they relate to objects and the outerworld, then may or may not become introspective. It's the basic principle of introversion/extraversion.

 

[Totenkindly]

....But, doesn't Myers-Briggs say that all introverts are egocentric in this way? Not necessarily in a selfish manner however first and foremost, introverts want to understand the self and then how they relate to others whereas extraverts want to understand how they relate to objects and the outerworld, then may or may not become introspective. It's the basic principle of introversion/extraversion.

Yes. The cycle of focus (from start to finish) is:

Introvert = Self -> Outer world -> Self
Extrovert = Outer World -> Self -> Outer World

 

["?"]

Yes. The cycle of focus (from start to finish) is:

Introvert = Self -> Outer world -> Self
Extrovert = Outer World -> Self -> Outer World

Actually I was being facetious. So Jenn, were you Fortunato in another life?

 

[Athenian200]

Yes. The cycle of focus (from start to finish) is:

Introvert = Self -> Outer world -> Self
Extrovert = Outer World -> Self -> Outer World

That seems to explain why I'm always looking at how things relate to myself rather than how they relate to each other. It just doesn't seem as important, somehow. I've never understood how someone could be motivated by how things related to each other rather than to oneself.

Actually I was being facetious. So Jenn, were you Fortunato in another life?

Oh my, that was incredibly rude of you to ask! Have you no manners? :1377:

 

[JustDave]

That seems to explain why I'm always looking at how things relate to myself rather than how they relate to each other. It just doesn't seem as important, somehow. I've never understood how someone could be motivated by how things related to each other rather than to oneself.



Oh my, that was incredibly rude of you to ask! Have you no manners? :1377:

Apropos my friend as C3PO was a protocol droid.

 

[Ezra]

....But, doesn't Myers-Briggs say that all introverts are egocentric in this way? Not necessarily in a selfish manner however first and foremost, introverts want to understand the self and then how they relate to others whereas extraverts want to understand how they relate to objects and the outerworld, then may or may not become introspective. It's the basic principle of introversion/extraversion.

Then I must be an Introvert.

That idea is biased against the Extraverts. What you're implying is that while Introverts have the ability to understand both themselves and the outerworld, Extraverts understand the outer world okay, but some will never really have a grasp on introspection. Why is that?

 

[Totenkindly]

Actually I was being facetious. So Jenn, were you Fortunato in another life?

Yes. (Actually, I'm more like "Jenninato" right now.)

Facetious or not, your point was still correct.

That seems to explain why I'm always looking at how things relate to myself rather than how they relate to each other. It just doesn't seem as important, somehow. I've never understood how someone could be motivated by how things related to each other rather than to oneself.

Yes, exactly. I think it's important to understand, because introverts can end up feeling like they're selfish because of the starting and ending points being the self. That *can* occur out of selfishness, but in general it just has to be remember that ultimately the introvert does start with herself, then go into the world to collect information, then bring it back to the self's inner world again.

The extrovert automatically starts with the outer world, goes into themselves for a reference point, then maps it back out.

Oh my, that was incredibly rude of you to ask! Have you no manners? :1377:

I have no few secrets. (admittedly, it was a little off-topic, though.)

Then I must be an Introvert.

Oh, you make my HEAD spin sometimes... (make up your mind!) You're definitely *not* an ENTJ.

That idea is biased against the Extraverts. What you're implying is that while Introverts have the ability to understand both themselves and the outerworld, Extraverts understand the outer world okay, but some will never really have a grasp on introspection. Why is that?

There is no bias at all. You only explored half of the issue.

Extroverts naturally think in terms of the outer world and take time to develop their introversion / the reflective core of their being. They have to actively pull inside to do this.

Introverts have the opposite weakness. They understand the inside of themselves well, but have trouble taking the outer world as a reality of its own, they have to force themselves to stretch out and really examine it and engage it.

Both sides have weaknesses. hence, no bias. The fact that you perceive one? Does that say anything about your instinctive nature and whether you are I/E, depending on where you saw the bias to be?

 

["?"]

Oh my, that was incredibly rude of you to ask! Have you no manners? :1377:

Whaaattt? Is there something that I am suppose to know?

 

["?"]

Then I must be an Introvert.

That idea is biased against the Extraverts. What you're implying is that while Introverts have the ability to understand both themselves and the outerworld, Extraverts understand the outer world okay, but some will never really have a grasp on introspection. Why is that?

Fine.... introverts may or may not want to understand their external world. Better?

 

[arcticangel02]

Yes, but introverts are forced to face and deal with the external world a great deal more than the extravert is forced to be introspective. Hence in average examples of both, the introvert is perhaps slightly more likely to be well-rounded in that regard.

It's just the way the world works.